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post #736 of 750
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Originally Posted by Bibo View Post

Vocals are definitely more upfront with the L2. While quality and quantity of these two headphones in the lower end is very comparable with a slight advantage for the L2, the L2s excel in the treble region. More life, more sparkle. In the first hours the L2 can get a bit harsh with very bright recordings but that settles with burn in.
My feelings about the NAD are quite similar to yours. When I put them on it always takes some minutes to get used to their signature or, well, them not having any real signature besides being somewhat warmer than neutral. After a few songs they begin to work and I could leave them on for hours. The L2s on the other hand are always catchy from the first note.
I can also say something about the fit: While padding and size of the headband are almost identical, the earcups of the L2 are a bit larger and the ones of HP50 are softer. I have no comfort issues with both.

I've read several people saying that the lower mids are lacking a bit of warmth. Do you think that's the case? How do the lower mids compare to the NAD HP50s lower mids?

post #737 of 750

The mids NAD HP50 are more present, they noticebly warmer overall. i would not say the L2s are lacking in the lower mids, but if you compre them to the NADs they definitely have less.

post #738 of 750
Hello i've been on this thread for a while reading the comments & updates of the L2. I actually was going to get them but instead went and got the RHA T10i with a Cayin C5 Amp and im seriously enjoying the sound im getting. But all these good reviews are just making me seriously curios about these and the only reason why I didn't go for these was because of the non removal earpads, so im just asking any daily users or long term users of the Philips Fidelio L2, how are the earpads doing, is there any damage coming along or are they still holding up strong?
post #739 of 750
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I've read several people saying that the lower mids are lacking a bit of warmth. Do you think that's the case? How do the lower mids compare to the NAD HP50s lower mids?

The lower mids are good. The emphasis in the upper mids causes the cold sounding mids.
post #740 of 750
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how are the earpads doing, is there any damage coming along or are they still holding up strong?

They seem fairly robust to me, the wear and tear is minimal on my pair. Also, if you store them well they can remain looking close to new. 

post #741 of 750
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Originally Posted by dakanao View Post
 

I've read several people saying that the lower mids are lacking a bit of warmth. Do you think that's the case? How do the lower mids compare to the NAD HP50s lower mids?

 

Overall I would say the L2s are warmer than neutral but they are very clear at the same time. The bass spreads out but not all over the place, mainly into the background, while the mids and treble tend to be projected at specific positions in space. Funnily enough, Paul Barton gives a similar description to his roomfeel technology in the HP50.

post #742 of 750

I ordered these from Amazon UK about a year ago, and they were amazing. 

 

I ended up having to get rid of them, but they have just started selling on Amazon.com now. 

 

The X2s are okay, but the L2s really bring it to a different level.

post #743 of 750
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Originally Posted by L1C4 View Post
 

I ordered these from Amazon UK about a year ago, and they were amazing. 

 

I ended up having to get rid of them, but they have just started selling on Amazon.com now. 

 

The X2s are okay, but the L2s really bring it to a different level.

What is the sound difference between the Philips X2 and L2?

 

Also, what what your source?

post #744 of 750
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Originally Posted by Bibo View Post
 

The mids NAD HP50 are more present, they noticebly warmer overall. i would not say the L2s are lacking in the lower mids, but if you compre them to the NADs they definitely have less.

Do you think the treble/uppermids of the Philips L2 is harsher than the HP50s? Or do they have the same smoothnes?

post #745 of 750
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Originally Posted by dakanao View Post
 

Do you think the treble/uppermids of the Philips L2 is harsher than the HP50s? Or do they have the same smoothnes?


The NADs have more mids, the L2s have more lower treble. Upper treble is similar so no more harshness, still smooth, just different sounding. The boost in lower treble adds some live and makes voices more upfront sounding IMO.

But YMMV as always.

post #746 of 750

Been listening to the L2 since 30 minutes.. The sound is VERY clear indeed.. Clearer than my Creative Aurvana Live? Don't think so, but they're close. But bass is WAY tighter, and around the same quantity.

 

 

 

I have just one issue with the sound however... Sometimes it seems that the uppermids are a bit TOO emphasized, the CAL definitely are a lot smoother up there.

 

I hope this will settle down with burn in.


Edited by dakanao - Yesterday at 1:07 am
post #747 of 750

It seems that the vocals are a bit recessed... Who else is expierencing this issue?

post #748 of 750
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Originally Posted by dakanao View Post
 

It seems that the vocals are a bit recessed... Who else is expierencing this issue?

If you compare them to the CAL maybe. But The CAL are somewhat boosted in that region (+4 dB at 900 -1000 Hz)

post #749 of 750

A youtube review:

 

post #750 of 750

I definitely like how ''clean'' these headphones sound.

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