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T90 sounds shrill and thin. I really dislike Beyer's Tesla line. T51p is good but it sounds different to full size Tesla headphones, more urban.

Quite a few prefer them with tube amps and then they sound better.

 

About the L2/Hugo, have you tried any amps on it? 

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Thanks to Currawong finally the tread is in the correct sub-forum :beerchug:.

This amazing headphone deserve more love :L3000:.

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Quite a few prefer them with tube amps and then they sound better.

 

About the L2/Hugo, have you tried any amps on it? 

 

No, I haven't.

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No, I haven't.

It might be worth trying. jonfairway, of this thread, got good results with high end amps and tubes. So you might be able to get even more from your Hugo/L2. Then again you might find the power of the Hugo to be perfect already.

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Just posted a full review of the L2.
Is it still not available in the US? You guys are missing out...

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Just posted a full review of the L2.
Is it still not available in the US? You guys are missing out...


Awesome review mate...  I bought mine from Germany.

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Just posted a full review of the L2.

Is it still not available in the US? You guys are missing out...

The review is great. Thank you. beerchug.gif
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Edited by WHertz - 9/30/14 at 11:55am
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 It might be worth trying. jonfairway, of this thread, got good results with high end amps and tubes. So you might be able to get even more from your Hugo/L2. Then again you might find the power of the Hugo to be perfect already.

 

Deffo worth rolling some tubes to get the sound just the way you want.... NOS tubes still offer the best sound.... no idea why !!!  but hey who cares... love that warm full sound...

 

have got to a point now with the L2 where playing with the setup each time leaves me wondering if I can get it to sound any better..

 

still could go a way with the DAC's but it sounds pretty fab now.

 

Current setup

 

AIMP3  - 96K  -24 bit Direct into

USB Dared EF-99 Pre Tube stage DAC ( Modded -- Russian 6N1-EV and 6N2 tubes and RCA 12AX7 NOS tube )

pre outs to

Graham Slee SRGii with posh power supply.

into L2 using re-terminated Sennheiser HD650 cable

other interconnect

Chord Cobra between Graham Slee and Dared

 

all sounds very sweet indeed !!!!

 

swap between that for late night listening and my Modded LCD2.2 - with LCD3 drivers, damping mods, cable upgrade and LCD3 super soft pads....

 

hear the X2 is something pretty special !!!!!  an improvement apparently...

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So I wonder... These seem mightly interesting for a portable headphone (I have used open headphones as well but semi seems like a nice compromise smily_headphones1.gif)
Though I have two questions:
1) how prone to sibilance are these? The Fidelio X1 were just fine in terms of sibilance. If they are like it with just more treble without more sibilance, that would be fine smily_headphones1.gif I am rather sensitive to it so AKG level of 'monitoring' revealing to sibilance is a no-no... Smooth and extended treble ala HIFIMAN is my cup of tea smily_headphones1.gif
2) Just how nasal are the vocals? I do not mind slightly closed vocals but they do need to breathe and not be nasal and unnatural...
Source would be (the great) Fiio X1, possible coupled with a E12 or C5 portable amps smily_headphones1.gif
Thanks in advance!
Kind regards,
Conq
Edited by conquerator2 - Yesterday at 12:00 pm
post #611 of 613
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post

So I wonder... These seem mightly interesting for a portable headphone (I have used open headphones as well but semi seems like a nice compromise smily_headphones1.gif)
Though I have two questions:
1) how prone to sibilance are these? The Fidelio X1 were just fine in terms of sibilance. If they are like it with just more treble without more sibilance, that would be fine smily_headphones1.gif I am rather sensitive to it so AKG level of 'monitoring' revealing to sibilance is a no-no... Smooth and extended treble ala HIFIMAN is my cup of tea smily_headphones1.gif
2) Just how nasal are the vocals? I do not mind slightly closed vocals but they do need to breathe and not be nasal and unnatural...
Source would be (the great) Fiio X1, possible coupled with a E12 or C5 portable amps smily_headphones1.gif
Thanks in advance!
Kind regards,
Conq

 

I honestly never found the L2 to be sibilant but the treble may be much for say Punk Rock (mostly due to the recording). Treble quality is very good. The vocals are quite airy and smooth… but male vocals lack that warm heft as the emphasis is on the upper mids instead of the lower mids/midbass. I haven't heard the X1 but basing on what I've read, the L2 should benefit from the darker, bassier DAP.

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I honestly never found the L2 to be sibilant but the treble may be much for say Punk Rock (mostly due to the recording). Treble quality is very good. The vocals are quite airy and smooth… but male vocals lack that warm heft as the emphasis is on the upper mids instead of the lower mids/midbass. I haven't heard the X1 but basing on what I've read, the L2 should benefit from the darker, bassier DAP.

Thanks! I listen to lots of intrumental music and female vocals, so male vocals are not that important.

I just don't want the headphone to sound recessed in any part of the FR, which doesn't seem like it does...

I am on the verge of ordering one from amazon uk/it

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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post
 

Thanks! I listen to lots of intrumental music and female vocals, so male vocals are not that important.

I just don't want the headphone to sound recessed in any part of the FR, which doesn't seem like it does...

I am on the verge of ordering one from amazon uk/it

 

I have heard X2 and for my taste L2 is the better phone. L2 is more neutral, more balanced, more detailed and is semi-open so less sound leaking and better isolation.

I have herd many headphones in the 300 euro price range and for me L2 is the best one. Just bear in mind that L2 is very detailed and that's why not very forgiving for bad mastered music.

Such a wonderful sound. Definitely recommended.

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