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Excuse my vocabulary I'm no audiophile redface.gif

Both phones are running the same custom rom with no custom EQ from dspmanager or any other programs. The only difference besides hardware that I could think of is the drivers. But I think you are totally right about the sound. The sound from htc one s is very "straightforward"; the sound almost sounds like it's coming from a tube to produce a very hard, solid sound, which is the way I like it:) when I listen to rap, the sound is always very emphasized, whether it be theperson's voice or the bass.On the other hand, the HTC one sounds "wider" (must be the dynamic range you were talking about), so then the bass doesn't sound as emphasized as it does on the One s. Thanks for your reply I definitely learned a thing or two:now I just wish I can get my hands on a moto x to see if the bass difference is really noticeable when listening to hip hop rap. But with that much difference on the graph i wouldn't expect much confused_face(1).gif it's such a great phone @ 350$
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Wow, you do have good ears! You are describing compression and dynamics to the t. And yeah, compressed sound does tend to sound better with rap music, partly because it usually doesn't have many instruments and doesn't make much use of spacial cues. The One's better dynamic range means it is better at distinguishing relative distances in music by having a wider range of emphasis it can place on individual sounds: some will sound very quiet, some will sound more up front, which can make it sound more realistic and complex, whereas with less dynamic range,  everything is simply up front, which isn't as true to the recording and perhaps not as lifelike, especially in the case of orchestral music, live performances, or anything with a large ensemble, but it makes every individual sound easier to distinguish.

 

$350 for the Moto X? You sure you're not thinking of the Nexus 5? Nexus 5 is also a great phone for $350, it trounces the Moto X spec-wise and has the same awesome voice controls. The Nexus also has great sound, been listening to the Lord of the Rings OST and some psybient all morning on it with my SM2s :) The dynamics are not the MOST impressive, but it does have really nice bass with a touch extra below 50 hz, which is where I like a good kick, so you might enjoy it too; I'm sure it would sound HUGE with those IE8s! Unfortunately it's not very ergonomic, unlike the Moto X which fits my hand like a glove, but personally I'll take the sound and speed over hand comfort. Love to see a Nexus X some day though! Moto X body (maybe thinner), a screen that covers the whole front, Wolfson DAC (I can dream right?), and a nice quad core with 3 gigs of ram...I'm not buying anything new til that happens! :P

 

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Excuse my vocabulary I'm no audiophile redface.gif

Both phones are running the same custom rom with no custom EQ from dspmanager or any other programs. The only difference besides hardware that I could think of is the drivers. But I think you are totally right about the sound. The sound from htc one s is very "straightforward"; the sound almost sounds like it's coming from a tube to produce a very hard, solid sound, which is the way I like it:) when I listen to rap, the sound is always very emphasized, whether it be theperson's voice or the bass.On the other hand, the HTC one sounds "wider" (must be the dynamic range you were talking about), so then the bass doesn't sound as emphasized as it does on the One s. Thanks for your reply I definitely learned a thing or two:now I just wish I can get my hands on a moto x to see if the bass difference is really noticeable when listening to hip hop rap. But with that much difference on the graph i wouldn't expect much confused_face(1).gif it's such a great phone @ 350$

Edited by Gilly87 - 11/27/13 at 2:33pm
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Oh and by the way, if you're interested in learning more about audio terminology, here is a really useful link that will help you "translate" what us geeks are saying :P and hopefully help you learn the lingo yourself:

 

Describing Sound - A Glossary

http://www.head-fi.org/t/220770/describing-sound-a-glossary

post #20 of 55
Gilly87, he's referring to the sale; this Cyber Monday, Motorola's discounting the Moto X to $350, and that's for both developer and carrier editions.
post #21 of 55
I went from the HTC One to the Nexus 5 and found the Nexus had a lot more air and crisper highs. I haven't observed the muddy bass that some have but I'm mostly using it with a Fiio E11 and AKG K550/Q701

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Gilly87, he's referring to the sale; this Cyber Monday, Motorola's discounting the Moto X to $350, and that's for both developer and carrier editions.

Yup that's what I was referring to. I am using the HTC one right now and don't know if I should switch to Moto x. Bass in hip hop music is very important to me (probably the most important thing since I use my phone for music at the gym). I know the frequency graph shows that the moto x is weak in bass, but can anyone provide some first hand experience? Thank you.
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Yup that's what I was referring to. I am using the HTC one right now and don't know if I should switch to Moto x. Bass in hip hop music is very important to me (probably the most important thing since I use my phone for music at the gym). I know the frequency graph shows that the moto x is weak in bass, but can anyone provide some first hand experience? Thank you.

 

Really?

 

The Moto X isn't even a full generation ahead of the HTC One and you already want to upgrade?

 

Stick with your phone for at least a year before you upgrade man... it's pointless jumping around so fast.

post #24 of 55
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Really?

 

The Moto X isn't even a full generation ahead of the HTC One and you already want to upgrade?

 

Stick with your phone for at least a year before you upgrade man... it's pointless jumping around so fast.

i actually only had the HTC One for 2 weeks, got it on craigslist. I can just sell it back on craigslist at a loss of 10-20$. 

 

I've had my HTC One S since it came out tho.

 

and by hardware moto x isnt even ahead of the HTC One.. I just like the smaller form factor and active notification


Edited by C19932 - 11/30/13 at 12:29am
post #25 of 55
I share this beef with the N4, it isn't very ergonomic; the Moto X is a dream phone in this department. The N5 is marginally better ergonomically than the N4, with comparable SQ.

I will give the Moto X a listen with my SM2s and let you know how it compares.
post #26 of 55
I didn't have any beef with the ergonomics of the Nexus 4. I find the 5 to be very similar. So if you didn't like the 4 then you probably won't like the 5.

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post #27 of 55
Just demoed the Moto X vs my N5 last night, both stock: the Moto X has somewhat hollow bass, the overall sound is reasonable, a touch of warmth, but less detail than the stock N5 and inferior bass both in quantity and quality. It sounds very good for a smartphone, soundstage might have been a touch wider but there was some hiss with my SM2, not a lot but noticeable. Not a bad choice for music but there are better, I wouldnt suggest it as a daily source for headphones or IEMs over $100.
post #28 of 55
True, its not a big difference although personally I prefer the 5 by a fair amount. Can't wait for a stable CM release so I can root :-) :-) :-) :-)
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I didn't have any beef with the ergonomics of the Nexus 4. I find the 5 to be very similar. So if you didn't like the 4 then you probably won't like the 5.

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Just demoed the Moto X vs my N5 last night, both stock: the Moto X has somewhat hollow bass, the overall sound is reasonable, a touch of warmth, but less detail than the stock N5 and inferior bass both in quantity and quality. It sounds very good for a smartphone, soundstage might have been a touch wider but there was some hiss with my SM2, not a lot but noticeable. Not a bad choice for music but there are better, I wouldnt suggest it as a daily source for headphones or IEMs over $100.

Dammit! Thank you very much.
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Glad to help :-)
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Dammit! Thank you very much.
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