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iBasso DX50 Gallery High Resolution DX50 Snaps - Pre Review Q and A

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

For now, here are a few 4000x high res snaps. More photos with my LCD3 and JH16 come later today. Please feel free to ask questions about the player if you have them.  Initial impressions are very good in terms of sonic qualities, but the UI is very unstable at the moment.  This thread will be edited with a full review after the firmware updates are released, also after the full review first appears on another website that I write for. After some time passes, it will be copied here. 

 

True High Res Snaps found here on my Deviant Art Profile Page.  Enjoy.  

 

-24bit

 

 

 

 


Edited by 24Bit - 9/10/13 at 6:14am
post #2 of 10

just 1 question.

isnt that the jack connecting the phone out?

post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 

Yes, the Black Dragon Interconnects 3.5mm plug is connected to the DX50's Phone Output jack.


Edited by 24Bit - 9/10/13 at 6:07am
post #4 of 10
Can you please explain that interconnect. So you have a single-ended out going to the balanced in on your amp? What is the benefit of this interconnect vs a 3.5mm to 3.5mm? Won't the amp output balanced as long as balanced phones are connected to it.


Thanks
post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 

I believe that my Hybrid 3.5mm to Balanced connection results in 95% the same experience as an authentic Balanced Setup, so long as your portable source has a 3.5mm or coaxial line out function.  No amp will output a true balanced signal unless all components are balanced. This interconnect is useless for a single ended headphone experience and is no different than a standard 3.5mm to 3.5mm.  However, if your headphone cable is balanced, the experience is very close to an authentic and true balanced setup but at a fraction of the cost of a fully balanced portable setup in my opinion.  

 

The benefits in my Hybrid setup are:

 

1.  Cost.  My Hybrid Setup cost $1800 total and is composed of the DX50, The JH16, The ALO International, HPL Balanced Cable, Moon Audio Black Dragon 3.5mm to Balanced Interconnect.   To achieve a fully balanced setup, it would cost $2200+ with the new Cypher Labs 720 Dac and Amp that would replace the need for a separate amp, the JH16, special dock interconnect and an Apple music player.  

 

2.  Size.  The Hybrid Setup is tiny and pocketable.  A CLAS Setup is fairly large.  The new 720 unit took away the need for the amp in the mix, but prior to that when I purchased my Hybrid cable, the CLAS was the only portable balanced setup and was three times as tall as my setup.  

 

3.  User friendliness.  Due to the great new additions to the portable player world that use a 3.5mm line out, Portable Digital Output seems shoulder shrug worthy at best due to the need to stick with Apple Ipods.  I enjoy the sound of my Studio V way more than a rockboxed iPod.  Now, I enjoy the DX50 even more than the Studio V and Fiio X3.  

 

4.  Stability for Future products.  You can't use a balanced adapter on the Cypher Setups on anything else but Apple products.  Yet, more and more companies seem to be seeing the useful nature of a 3.5mm line out function.  In the case of the DX50, the Phone Out works better for my preferences in sound than the Line Out.  The DX50 is a forward sounding player which is very much to my liking, where as the International is noticeable more pushed back, less tall and appearing wider due to that effect when its actually not wider at all, its about the same.  The International does a good job in cleaning up the signal and making the DX50 sound more clear, but it actually takes a noticeably dive in dynamics and stage depth.  The DX50 simply has a better sound stage by itself, but the highs upper mid clarity is much better on the International.  

 

5.  Swag.  Almost nobody else uses it and at their own loss.  Not one person I've let listen to my rig has said a single bad thing about it.  It costs $5 extra to outfit a Black Dragon interconnect with a Balanced connector instead of the stock 3.5mm.  So why not do that instead if you are using an RSA or ALO Amplifier anyway?  It looks awesome and has some quality benefits.  I bought the International because the sound quality is beyond stellar and its a balanced USB Dac AND portable amplifier with a Balanced Output.  It would be stupid to buy a 3.5mm to 3.5mm interconnect for portable needs just on general principals if the Amplifier has a Balanced input to begin with.  

 

6.  Sound preference.  I dislike the Digital sound.  I prefer the Analog sound of my Hybrid setup.  Compared to the older CLASS Setup that I've heard with my JH16 and the International, the experience is sharper and more tonally refined, which is a sound that I dont like.  I want a warmth to my music with a solid low end and a spacious feel.  The CLAS setup lacks a sound stage and in my opinion only works fantastically well with headphones that are not known for great sound staging experiences.


Edited by 24Bit - 9/10/13 at 9:13am
post #6 of 10
Perfect. Thx for the info. Im wondering if it will work with the line out dock of my iPhone 4S into the rsa lightning amp. I also have the jh16s (with black dragon balanced cable) and look for the warm sound over the neutral bright one.
Edited by onlychild - 9/10/13 at 9:33am
post #7 of 10
Thread Starter 

Check with both Ray at RSA and Drew at Moon Audio.  Ray said something about his lightning amp being able to handle a certain type of connection without a voltage problem.  I can't recall what it was, but it is something you definitely need to check on before ever using if Ray put that message out.  I've not heard the Lightning, but Rays house sound is usually darker and more submissive than Alo's.  I prefer a slightly warm bass but neutral mids and smooth highs.  That is exactly what the International is and what the Intruder was not.  I can only assume the Lightning is similar to RSAs house sound in general, which is certainly warmer than neutral or cold.  Either way, best of luck and let me know how you like the results of whatever you end up going for.  

post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by 24Bit View Post

 

1.  Cost.  My Hybrid Setup cost $1800 total and is composed of the DX50, The JH16, The ALO International, HPL Balanced Cable, Moon Audio Black Dragon 3.5mm to Balanced Interconnect.   To achieve a fully balanced setup, it would cost $2200+ with the new Cypher Labs 720 Dac and Amp that would replace the need for a separate amp, the JH16, special dock interconnect and an Apple music player.  

 

The Theorem does not have balanced line out but retains balanced headphone out: http://cypherlabs.com/product#product-comparison-tab

post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 

I am aware.  All references to Line Out that I had made were in regards to the more recent portable Daps including a 3.5mm line out. 


Edited by 24Bit - 9/10/13 at 4:34pm
post #10 of 10
Vinnie from Red Wine Audio is making the AK120 to have a true balanced out with two 8741 dacs, but it's gonna be pricey
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