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Originally Posted by OK-Guy View Post
 

it looks like the Euro ZX1 might not be 'capped' as there shouldn't be any volume differences between models, I will reiterate that there are no differences between the Japanese ZX1 & F887.

 

[snip!]

 

 

OK so far we have 1x saying no difference, and we have 1x saying yes there is a difference.

 

Q: these days DAPs, for better or for worse, their SQ isn't based solely on h/w. So the question is do they both have the same level of firmware? If not, which one is newer and how old was the old one updated? 

post #5792 of 7502

Anak... I guess what I'm thinking is that the EU ZX1 isn't capped where the F886 is, hence the differences.

post #5793 of 7502
Can't Sony be emailed or called and have these questions answered?
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I wouldn't bother asking Sony UK they ain't got a clue unless it's Playstation related.

post #5795 of 7502
Really? That's very sad
post #5796 of 7502

I can confirm that the volume boost trick (force stopping the "Sound Enhancements" app) still works in firmware 1.11 on my ZX1. Though with my XBA-H3's I prefer the sound signature without the volume boost trick, whereas with my TF10's I preferred the sound with the trick.

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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post
 

 

 

OK so far we have 1x saying no difference, and we have 1x saying yes there is a difference.

 

Q: these days DAPs, for better or for worse, their SQ isn't based solely on h/w. So the question is do they both have the same level of firmware? If not, which one is newer and how old was the old one updated? 

 

The firmware is different between the two devices but I have the latest on both (1.11 for ZX1, and 1.21 for F886)

 

It is hard to tell if there is a volume cap, because although there is a volume difference it isn't like double the volume. I would need a Japanese ZX1 to evaluate that. Perhaps it has a "better" cap than the F886

post #5798 of 7502
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Originally Posted by jonstatt View Post
 

Quick question. On the F886/887 the Walkman logo at the bottom right lights up whenever you turn the screen on. On the ZX1, it does not seem to light up. Is this correct?

 

Sorry to repeat this question, but I just want to make sure the ZX1 is functioning correctly. Is the Walkman logo just below the screen (bottom right), meant to light up when you are charging or turn the screen on? It does do this on the F886, but it is not doing that on my ZX1.

post #5799 of 7502
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Originally Posted by jonstatt View Post
 

 

Sorry to repeat this question, but I just want to make sure the ZX1 is functioning correctly. Is the Walkman logo just below the screen (bottom right), meant to light up when you are charging or turn the screen on? It does do this on the F886, but it is not doing that on my ZX1.


Nope, the walkman logo on my ZX1 does not light up either, so I assume that our sets are working just fine :)

post #5800 of 7502

F886 have 10 mW,  Zx1 have 15 mW.

post #5801 of 7502
FW 1.11 is the best update of sound quality I've updated.
I luv it smily_headphones1.gif
post #5802 of 7502
So it does alter the sound then?
post #5803 of 7502
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Originally Posted by jonstatt View Post
 

 

Sorry to repeat this question, but I just want to make sure the ZX1 is functioning correctly. Is the Walkman logo just below the screen (bottom right), meant to light up when you are charging or turn the screen on? It does do this on the F886, but it is not doing that on my ZX1.

You are most welcome, on a side note however, I would love for the walkman logo to light up though, I think it would be pretty nice. Wasted lol

post #5804 of 7502

I did some more tests between the UK F886 and UK ZX1, and the findings I made earlier are consistent, repeatable and don't need any kind of blind listening test.....its ridiculously obvious.

 

1) The ZX1 has more bass presence. I am not sure if this is because the amplifier is better or simply that it is bass boosted! But you don't need to convince yourself of the difference, it is plainly obvious.

2) When volumes are set to max on both units, the volume is quite similar. However, at 2/3 volume on both units, there is an obvious increase in volume on the ZX1. It is as if they have non-linear volume scales. This would suggest the UK ZX1 does still have a volume cap but perhaps only a slightly more generous one combined with a different volume scale

3) When you connect the AKG 3003i to the headphone socket of the ZX1 with no music playing, you hear a short hiss for about 1.5 seconds. When connecting the same IEMs to the F886, no burst of hiss is there

 

Because of point 3, it would suggest the electronics are different between the units. And point 1 could be a forced EQ on the ZX1 or once again due to a different amplifier circuit. Or it could be as OK-Guy suggested, that the crippling EU volume cap is affecting the whole sound, and not just limiting the volume.

post #5805 of 7502
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Originally Posted by surfer1000 View Post

So it does alter the sound then?


Yes, many people in forum in my country confirm this.

The instrumental separation is the great update.

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