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post #481 of 7455
More info to come later when I have time to sit down somewhere quietly.

One has to queue for it :-


And one is given only 5 mins with it, so that'll give you an idea of useless any impressions I have of it :-

post #482 of 7455

In terms of form factor, the ZX1 is awesome. I hate holding 2-inch thick, Galaxy S4-wide objects in my hand or pocket.

post #483 of 7455

Thanks AnakChan.  Waiting for your impression man.

post #484 of 7455
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

More info to come later when I have time to sit down somewhere quietly.

One has to queue for it :-


And one is given only 5 mins with it, so that'll give you an idea of useless any impressions I have of it :-

 

Duh... need to line up and just a 5 mins session.... big kudos to you for doing this of all of us outside Tokyo!

post #485 of 7455
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Thanks AnakChan.  Waiting for your impression man.
As long as you bear mind I only had 5 mins with it & was limited to their tracks. Luckily they had 2 which I had but source is somewhat different. Their Norah Jones' Come Away With Me had only one track, Don't Know Why which was in 24/192 whilst my AK120 was in DSF (but who knows how AK120 realtime converts & downsamples to what bitrate. etc.). My HM-901 has the same in 24/192 converted from eye newer SACD version of Don't Know Why.

Ok with that difference out of the way, the first thing I picked up was how more "spaced out" the vocals sounded in comparison to both the AK120 & HM-901. By this I mean the AK120 & HM-901 sounded more "intimate". Whether this was actually bigger staging, I can't say yet but initial perceived staging felt larger than the AK120 at least. The fullness of the sound though sounded closer to the HM-901 than the AK120. Oh this is off the SigDJ BTW. I did switch briefly over to the TG!334 & sentiments somewhat stayed the same.

I can't speak for detail & resolution as I had such little time there. Actually I think one guy behind in the queue saw me whip out the AK120, HM-901, SigDJ & TG!334 & left the queue tongue.gif.

Overall in terms of the weight, it feels lighter than I expected. Performance-wise, very briefly it feels more like the last gen/current gen android h/w (so maybe 1.51.4 or 1.7/1.9GHz rather than the new 2.3GHz QualcommKrait-type performance??). Is not bad but not exactly iPhone 5S snappy if you get my meaning.

Personally, this slightly less intimate presentation intrigues me that I may order one. I don't know if its better than the current competing DAPs but it sure is an alternative sound. The weight is really not what I expected. I like it light but it also feels a little flimsy. Kinda like moving from a Leica M-series to a Canon polycarbonate body. The aluminum body to me is quite akin to the KEF M500's.
post #486 of 7455
Kkcc, don't thank me...feel sorry for the chap behind in line seeing a guy with a bag full of audio gear wink.gif. Actually I had my Lumix GX1 all ready to take pix until I saw the sign in the front door, no photos (nor pets or drinks). But if Sasaki-san & others had taken pix & videos, what the heck...I thought 1 pix off the phone wouldn't be that bad.
post #487 of 7455
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Ok with that difference out of the way, the first thing I picked up was how more "spaced out" the vocals sounded in comparison to both the AK120 & HM-901. By this I mean the AK120 & HM-901 sounded more "intimate". Whether this was actually bigger staging, I can't say yet but initial perceived staging felt larger than the AK120 at least. The fullness of the sound though sounded closer to the HM-901 than the AK120. Oh this is off the SigDJ BTW. I did switch briefly over to the TG!334 & sentiments somewhat stayed the same.

I can't speak for detail & resolution as I had such little time there. Actually I think one guy behind in the queue saw me whip out the AK120, HM-901, SigDJ & TG!334 & left the queue tongue.gif.

Overall in terms of the weight, it feels lighter than I expected. Performance-wise, very briefly it feels more like the last gen/current gen android h/w (so maybe 1.5 or 1.7GHz rather than the new 2.2GHz Qualcomm-type performance??). Is not bad but not exactly iPhone 5S snappy if you get my meaning.

Personally, this slightly less intimate presentation intrigues me that I may order one. I don't know if its better than the current competing DAPs but it sure is an alternative sound. The weight is really not what I expected. I like it light but it also feels a little flimsy. Kinda like moving from a Leica M-series to a Canon polycarbonate body. The aluminum body to me is quite akin to the KEF M500's.

 

^That made me a lot less anxious about my blind pre-order  :etysmile:  but then it made me MORE anxious to receiving it.... :(

 

Thanks again Anakchan!  keep us posted if you would happen to have any follow-up visit.  I am kinna hoping Sony will bring it to the CANJAM so we get more coverage on this!

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^That made me a lot less anxious about my blind pre-order  etysmile.gif   but then it made me MORE anxious to receiving it.... frown.gif

Thanks again Anakchan!  keep us posted if you would happen to have any follow-up visit.  I am kinna hoping Sony will bring it to the CANJAM so we get more coverage on this!
As long as you're aware that what I've said is not set in stone (by me even, not talking about in comparison to others' impressions). I'm generally the kinda chap who'd like to have a product for weeks to test with the same track, same headphones just on different days to average my findings. A one-time 5 min listening session is even to me quite subjective. However it was enough to warrant another visit or two at least.
post #489 of 7455

Dear AnakChan, thank you for a first good albeit short review. 5 mins is just very short; however, maybe Sony is still zweeking the software and want to wait before releasing it for in-depth reviews?

One of the main selling points would be a larger amplifier build in (15+15mW @ 16Ω vs. 10+10 for the NW-F887); any ideas about what headphones it can drive would be appreciated.

Best regards...


Edited by jespersen - 10/6/13 at 4:02am
post #490 of 7455
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post


As long as you're aware that what I've said is not set in stone (by me even, not talking about in comparison to others' impressions). I'm generally the kinda chap who'd like to have a product for weeks to test with the same track, same headphones just on different days to average my findings. A one-time 5 min listening session is even to me quite subjective. However it was enough to warrant another visit or two at least.

 

No worries my friend!  I was just hoping it won't be blatantly bad!  haha... in any case if Sony didn't show this at the CANJAM I'm still hoping there will be more Headfier impression from the Fujiya-Avic show.  In fact I really should be going this time but alas can't work out my schedule.... 

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Don't think it needs coupling capacitors... it's basically a Class D design, so the caps should be for the low-pass filter.

 

Thanks, I forgot. Speaking of class D. I tend to find those a bit analytical, dry and less emotive/intimate. They can sound quite accurate while at the same time, a bit lacking in natural color. Certainly doesn't mean that this one is like that. They've obviously taken extra care with it and did some tweaking in that bump out. We do know that it's at least VG thanks to Anak.:bigsmile_face: Wish it could have been a PCM file in both. 


Edited by goodvibes - 10/6/13 at 4:54am
post #492 of 7455
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................................. Performance-wise, very briefly it feels more like the last gen/current gen android h/w (so maybe 1.5 or 1.7GHz rather than the new 2.2GHz Qualcomm-type performance??). Is not bad but not exactly iPhone 5S snappy if you get my meaning.

................................ The weight is really not what I expected. I like it light but it also feels a little flimsy. Kinda like moving from a Leica M-series to a Canon polycarbonate body. The aluminum body to me is quite akin to the KEF M500's.

 

Maybe the software is still being worked on. Who knows how old that demo player is.

Regarding weight(lack there off), this is a little worrisome. How did the side buttons feel. Did they have a solid and quality feel to them?

 

Thanks for the initial impression.

post #493 of 7455

I'm sure that any sort of hesitation is very minor and acceptable (at least it would be to me). I think light is good.


Edited by goodvibes - 10/6/13 at 4:55am
post #494 of 7455
Anak,
Did you check if any DSP was on such as clear audio? That would explain the larger staging.
I usualy hate using any EQ or DSP but I would have to admit to really enjoy it on the xperia Z.
post #495 of 7455
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Anak,
Did you check if any DSP was on such as clear audio? That would explain the larger staging.
I usualy hate using any EQ or DSP but I would have to admit to really enjoy it on the xperia Z.

 

Actually, very briefly I tried to find anything like that but I wasn't familiar with the menu system so I couldn't find it to tell if it was on or not. As I only had such little time, I didn't want to waste time switching the whole device to English (and find the various music player options) and switching it back. It'll have to be some other time for me to play with this  ZX1.

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