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post #4726 of 6003
Have a search for WM-Port LOD on this thread
post #4727 of 6003
Well to give you an idea on that, i bought the zx1 from HongKong airport just about 5 hours ago. I didnt have alot of time to try it but the first thing i noticed is the sound stage and volume difference when i compare it to my studio Anniversary.

I listeden to the same Song a couple of times with my ie800 s. And the sound stage of the studio is much more wider then zx1 nut Besides that what really shocked me is the volume being too low. And for any one owned a studio. The volume is 23-24 is the same as zx1 and i Listen at 25-26 range. So that was a downpoint for me.

I was in the market looking for an Android Dap, prefer ably other than ibasso as its more expensive and the soft are has problems and also The size. I thought this was the correct Dap that i was looking for for along time but so far, im not impressed.

I will try different Songs and different type of Files Tonight. I will let you guys know what i think as im really biased on loving this thing. smily_headphones1.gif

Sorry for the ****ty writing mistakes as im Mobile on a cab at the moment
post #4728 of 6003
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Originally Posted by Vect View Post


Thanks, I was under the impression the cable would work with the F886 and the pha2 but it seems that it isn't the case.

 

Having said what I posted, I have a feeling that the interconnect can be used in other branded DACs or source equipment with with USB type B port. So, since you already bought it, keep it... it might turn out to be useful in the future if you are planning to purchase the afore mentioned :-)

post #4729 of 6003

are there any WM-Port>mini-usb cables available so I don't have to use WMC-NWH10 cable connecting to another DAC like the Hugo?
 

post #4730 of 6003
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Originally Posted by mvpetev View Post
 

Ok so after reading quit a bit about the zx1 i decided its the device for me. However there seem to be 2 questions i cant find the answer to. 

 

First - ok everyone is saying it is a bit low on volume - thats fine for me i dont listen to music loud i just want it defined - however has anyone tested it with mdr-1r since they are 24 ohm how loud is it on that ? And in general what do people mean by not loud - i.e. not jumping over your head (which i dont want anyhow) or being hard to hear it on the bus ?

 

Second a lot of people are saying there is a circuit problem with the battery ? is that still the case or they fixed it ?

 

Regards

 Hi mvpetev,

 

I will try to answer your first question. I believe my answer is very subjective to my listening habits and is meant to give you some analogy based on it. So please take it with a grain of salt. 

 

At full volume straight from the ZX1, the MDR 1R  to me sounds at a volume where, I can still concentrate doing my work on my computer without being distracted, while enjoying the music. While at 3/4 of the ZX1 volume I can comfortably listen to music and falling asleep (yes, to me it is more effective than counting sheeps :-)...)

 

I personally do think that Sony purposely did that (volume output being low), so that, they could also sell their PHA-2 as Sony's ideal partner to the ZX1 (it also explains why the PHA-2 is slightly longer than the PHA-1, as the ZX1 length nicely fits the PHA-2).

 

Hope my analogy helps

 

Cheers

post #4731 of 6003

Hi OK-Guy,

 

As of now, the only line out cable I aware is the FiiO L5 (WM-Port to mini/3.5mm):

 

http://www.fiio.com.cn/products/index.aspx?ID=100000037312596&MenuID=105026015 

 

Cheers

post #4732 of 6003
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Originally Posted by Simon T View Post
 

Hi OK-Guy,

 

As of now, the only line out cable I aware is the FiiO L5 (WM-Port to mini/3.5mm):

 

http://www.fiio.com.cn/products/index.aspx?ID=100000037312596&MenuID=105026015 

 

Cheers


Thanks found one on Amazon ($10), was thinking of connecting my ZX1 to my Leckerton Audio amp this morning, this will work.

:smile: 

post #4733 of 6003

I need a WM-Port>mini-USB cable not a WM-Port>line-out cable... cheers for trying, appreciated .:beerchug: 


Edited by OK-Guy - 4/9/14 at 9:20am
post #4734 of 6003
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Originally Posted by OK-Guy View Post

I need a WM-Port>mini-USB cable not a WM-Port>line-out cable... cheers for trying, appreciated .beerchug.gif  
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post #4735 of 6003
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Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post


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Anak... if I get a USB lead to go with it would that feed the Hugo?


Edited by OK-Guy - 4/9/14 at 9:54am
post #4736 of 6003
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Originally Posted by OK-Guy View Post

Anak... if I get a USB lead to go with it would that feed the Hugo?
What does the Hugo take? This end is a microUSB.

I tried hooking the ZX1 to my Android with this adapter & an OTG & I think (since I can't remember) either the Android could mount the ZX1's filesystem or the opposite. In any case it seems this adapter passes data, not just for charging. I am guessing it may work with an external DAC.
post #4737 of 6003

cheers for the info Anak, it might be worth a punt to find out.

post #4738 of 6003
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Originally Posted by Scorpion667 View Post

Btw the stock cable on MDR 1R holds those headphones back. When I was testing them in store I had my ADL iHP35 3.5mm male to male cable (silver plated occ copper) and the 1R sounded considerably better with it. I was surprised


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I second that with the stock cables Sony use really do bottleneck the R1's full potential, I use the Whiplash Twag3 Hybrid with mine and makes a difference but will still be hampered by one channel unless it is modded and the crap left to right channel cable supply is bypassed by wiring direct into both drivers - like I had done with my Sony MDR-7520's.

 

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Originally Posted by T.R.A.N.C.E. View Post
 

 

The mdr1r are not hard to drive, I doubt you would need more than 50-60% volume on the ZX1. How loud the ZX1 can go depends on the headphones impedance and sensitivity, for iems in general any more than 50% volume and your ears will be bleeding, as for full size phones, I've found with phones around 60 ohms and under the ZX1 can get plenty loud. People who are saying the ZX1 doesn't get loud are obviously using high impedance phones, which isn't a good idea with the ZX1.

I think a starting gauge for these conversations is what age are you and is your hearing as shot from to many gigs as mine? lol (mine is fairly good for age approaching big 4-0 as I have a medical every couple of years for work,  but with the R's with the ZX1 all depends on the recordings as in theory the ZX1 should cope okay with the 24 ohm cans so with some recordings the output level is fine and I find I anywhere between 17-21 is fine but with older pressed  cd's the output level seems to be a lot lower to the point I am either near the end of the volume capacity or even worse it is not enough and would say it is about half of my stored music on there is not enough volume for those recordings.  So I am now less likely to use my two Sony cans with this for a serious sessions unless I hook my portable amp up to it and then as good as my amp is with SQ it is a different signature to the ZX1 which defeats the object to  a degree, so cannot win! 

 

I'm just glad my priority when I got this was to use with my JH16's monitors at end of the day so anything else was a bonus. 

 

Maybe ZX2 in future might have slightly elevated power output if they can maintain size of unit & battery stamina?  I will keep dreaming thanks. 

 

Hope it helped and did not confuse the issue for you!

post #4739 of 6003
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Originally Posted by mvpetev View Post
 

Ok so after reading quit a bit about the zx1 i decided its the device for me. However there seem to be 2 questions i cant find the answer to. 

 

First - ok everyone is saying it is a bit low on volume - thats fine for me i dont listen to music loud i just want it defined - however has anyone tested it with mdr-1r since they are 24 ohm how loud is it on that ? And in general what do people mean by not loud - i.e. not jumping over your head (which i dont want anyhow) or being hard to hear it on the bus ?

 

Second a lot of people are saying there is a circuit problem with the battery ? is that still the case or they fixed it ?

 

Regards

Regarding the second point, I think the device *can* get into a state where the battery can fully run down and it's a little tricky to get it back up. Though in my case, after many unsuccessful attempts to revive it, it finally turned back on when I used a replacement cable.  I.e., the stock cable that came with the player was faulty :-(  It's somewhat disappointing, given how expensive the player is *and* the fact they use a proprietary connector!  Otherwise, the player is very nice and my experience is consistent with the positive feedback that others have provided.

 

Anil

post #4740 of 6003
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Originally Posted by FortisFlyer75 View Post
 

 

I second that with the stock cables Sony use really do bottleneck the R1's full potential, I use the Whiplash Twag3 Hybrid with mine and makes a difference but will still be hampered by one channel unless it is modded and the crap left to right channel cable supply is bypassed by wiring direct into both drivers - like I had done with my Sony MDR-7520's.

 

I think a starting gauge for these conversations is what age are you and is your hearing as shot from to many gigs as mine? lol (mine is fairly good for age approaching big 4-0 as I have a medical every couple of years for work,  but with the R's with the ZX1 all depends on the recordings as in theory the ZX1 should cope okay with the 24 ohm cans so with some recordings the output level is fine and I find I anywhere between 17-21 is fine but with older pressed  cd's the output level seems to be a lot lower to the point I am either near the end of the volume capacity or even worse it is not enough and would say it is about half of my stored music on there is not enough volume for those recordings.  So I am now less likely to use my two Sony cans with this for a serious sessions unless I hook my portable amp up to it and then as good as my amp is with SQ it is a different signature to the ZX1 which defeats the object to  a degree, so cannot win! 

 

I'm just glad my priority when I got this was to use with my JH16's monitors at end of the day so anything else was a bonus. 

 

Maybe ZX2 in future might have slightly elevated power output if they can maintain size of unit & battery stamina?  I will keep dreaming thanks. 

 

Hope it helped and did not confuse the issue for you!

Well , this sounds bad . Do you think I have to ramp up the volume or can't drive it properly if using it with 40ohm ,  120db sensitivity IEM

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