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post #4186 of 7560
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Originally Posted by mannp View Post
 

Does the ZX1 include the walkman app that is on the latest batch of Xperia phones? (or likely an older version being on older android..)

 

I ask as I use Music Unlimited and Qobuz and MU through the walkman app is very slick.

 

I was hoping it was the same or is there a separate sony app to play the flac files.

 

Been looking on youtube to try and see for myself without much success.

 

Cheers

 

you won't need a separate app to use Flac files, it's a standard playback on the ZX1 (hi-res included)

 

Music-Unlimited is just a click via the icon... not sure about the others as I only use the stock-player & none of the apps.

post #4187 of 7560
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Originally Posted by OK-Guy View Post
 

 

Sean... got any Kit-Kat's ?

 

Not sure if reference to potential upgrade....

post #4188 of 7560
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Originally Posted by OK-Guy View Post
 

 

you won't need a separate app to use Flac files, it's a standard playback on the ZX1 (hi-res included)

 

Music-Unlimited is just a click via the icon... not sure about the others as I only use the stock-player & none of the apps.

 

Cool thanks; on the Xperia's logging into MU in the settings gives all your playlists within the walkman app, but no problem if you dont use MU.

 

I am guessing the other apps work as normal going through the headphone output; sounds obvious I know, but just checking :bigsmile_face:

post #4189 of 7560
The only complaint I might have with the stock app is that I want to advance through folders with a double click of the ff or rw buttons, something that power amp does really well, but other than that, the stock player is really good, if anything, they should include instead a Bluetooth remote with fully navigational capabilities as well as volume controls, coupled with a nice display... Man, I happily carry my pha-2 with my F886 no problem using my sbh-52 but sometimes instead of playing random files within the folder I would like to go sequential, something I can't do with the Bluetooth headset.
post #4190 of 7560
Ok Guy what's the new sony amp like with the zx1, does it really improve the sound?
post #4191 of 7560

Hi all,

I am awaiting the UK release and will pick up a ZX1. I have contemplated importing one due to EU volume limitation, but feel more secure in buying from a UK shop.

Anyhow, for portability with headphones I don't expect any volume issues (Amperior / Momentum). However, I have a desktop headphone amplifier that I want the option of using for other more difficult to drive cans (HD650).

If I was to use my desktop amp what is the best approach - a) using the WM port with a line out cable? b) using the headphone socket? Normally, I would obviously use the line out (iPod). However, the ZX1 has 'beefed up' wiring to the headphone socket. Also, I have read that the AK100 headphone output is considered almost equivalent to a line out due to the digital implementation. Is this true for the ZX1, or is the volume control in an analogue demain?

Any help would be appreciated, especially because I don't understand the digital / analogue implementation of headphone outputs!

Thanks

Paul

post #4192 of 7560
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Originally Posted by Hifi Nutter View Post

Ok Guy what's the new sony amp like with the zx1, does it really improve the sound?

I see ppl have discussed about this in many previous post , you can check it out , but if you want direct answers ,hope some one can help

post #4193 of 7560

I have to ask, when you guys refer to the Walkman app, I assume it's the "Music Player" app. I don't have anything Walkman branded other than the hardware. I prefer Google Play Music (have All Access), and have only even tried that app a couple of times. 

post #4194 of 7560
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Originally Posted by Vect View Post

The only complaint I might have with the stock app is that I want to advance through folders with a double click of the ff or rw buttons, something that power amp does really well, but other than that, the stock player is really good, if anything, they should include instead a Bluetooth remote with fully navigational capabilities as well as volume controls, coupled with a nice display... Man, I happily carry my pha-2 with my F886 no problem using my sbh-52 but sometimes instead of playing random files within the folder I would like to go sequential, something I can't do with the Bluetooth headset.

 

Is the stock player the same walkman app you have on the Xperia Ultra or is it a different app? Sorry to keep asking.

 

I'd assumed they'd keep the walkman app and just give it hidef flac support.

 

Perhaps the soon to be released Sony BRH10 Bluetooth Remote will give you the control that you need?

 

post #4195 of 7560
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Originally Posted by mannp View Post

Perhaps the soon to be released Sony BRH10 Bluetooth Remote will give you the control that you need?


That's a negative as it will require the Kit Kat OS on the device to be controlled.




"If it sounds good to you, that's all that matters. " - Artstar
post #4196 of 7560
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Originally Posted by mannp View Post
 

 

Is the stock player the same walkman app you have on the Xperia Ultra or is it a different app? Sorry to keep asking.

 

I'd assumed they'd keep the walkman app and just give it hidef flac support.

 

Perhaps the soon to be released Sony BRH10 Bluetooth Remote will give you the control that you need?

 

 

The SBH-52 has an screen,  assuming I want a wireless navigator, as in the good old Hi-MDs, I need an screen that allows me to travel within folders. The xperia walkman and the walkman from the f886 are similar in UI, but different, the xperia walkman can be updated from the store whereas the f886 simply says "this device is unsupported"

post #4197 of 7560
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Originally Posted by Hifi Nutter View Post

Ok Guy what's the new sony amp like with the zx1, does it really improve the sound?

 

I wouldn't say it improves the sound but it does give it a slightly different flavour, I haven't tried the PHA-2 or ZX1 in Hi-Res yet just 'lossless'... I've got to re-rip music at some point, then I'll invest in some Hi-Res albums... the PHA-2 does drive over-head headphones better than ZX1 though I expected that.

post #4198 of 7560
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Originally Posted by Artstar View Post


That's a negative as it will require the Kit Kat OS on the device to be controlled.




"If it sounds good to you, that's all that matters. " - Artstar

 

Thats very true, I forgot that, it does say 'if you have kitkat' but I guess it may be made to work on older Xperias, but only a possibility i guess.

 

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Originally Posted by Vect View Post
 

The SBH-52 has an screen,  assuming I want a wireless navigator, as in the good old Hi-MDs, I need an screen that allows me to travel within folders. The xperia walkman and the walkman from the f886 are similar in UI, but different, the xperia walkman can be updated from the store whereas the f886 simply says "this device is unsupported"

 

I understand you now with the reference back to the old MD's. 

 

Mhh, my Xperia walkman app on the Ultra only gets updated from the phones update area, with the apps being separate from the firmware. So its possible the ZX1 app will get updated, separate to the OS.

 

Is it unsupported due to the fact its looking for a higher OS number perhaps...

 

I'm hoping Sony come out with a flac streaming service within Music Unlimited :biggrin: so I am hoping it can be updated at least for that! 

post #4199 of 7560
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Originally Posted by LikeMyHifi View Post
 

Hi all,

I am awaiting the UK release and will pick up a ZX1. I have contemplated importing one due to EU volume limitation, but feel more secure in buying from a UK shop.

Anyhow, for portability with headphones I don't expect any volume issues (Amperior / Momentum). However, I have a desktop headphone amplifier that I want the option of using for other more difficult to drive cans (HD650).

If I was to use my desktop amp what is the best approach - a) using the WM port with a line out cable? b) using the headphone socket? Normally, I would obviously use the line out (iPod). However, the ZX1 has 'beefed up' wiring to the headphone socket. Also, I have read that the AK100 headphone output is considered almost equivalent to a line out due to the digital implementation. Is this true for the ZX1, or is the volume control in an analogue demain?

Any help would be appreciated, especially because I don't understand the digital / analogue implementation of headphone outputs!

Thanks

Paul

 

a) the line-out on the ZX1 is via the WM-Port, it is a dedicated line-out with a nice clean signal.. you will not be able to use any sound enhancements via the ZX1, the external amp is in control of volume etc..

 

b) the headphone-out is also a good source with the added benefit of allowing you to tweak the sound via ZX1 into the external amp... if you go this route set the volume level to max on the ZX1, then control the volume via the amp.

post #4200 of 7560
Thanks OK-Guy. Do you perceive any sound difference between line out and headphone out with all 'enhancements off'?
I guess the line out has been correctly implemented based on your comment, so probably the best option.
Are there any decent WM-port cables; only I only can find cheaper ones (might be perfectly fine) on Ebay. The Fiio one is a better option though - their iPod line out cable was excellent, but I'd happily pay more for a higher end cable.
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