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post #2986 of 7457
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Originally Posted by HERMANtheSMASHE View Post
 

Oh BTW have been held hostage by my ZX1 literally all week  :etysmile:  This thing is amazing as a stand alone DAP with IEM, have been more than pleased. Almost the minute i received it on Mon i loaded up 80gb of flac and alac on it, most of it being 24/192 files. Let's just say that it seems I have rediscovered some of my music all over again! Pink Floyd live at Pompeii has sounded simply amazing with the wide open sound-stage of this DAP. Will post a pic or two when I finally get my CIEM's from 1964 ears. I'm currently running a pair of Shure 215's on the ZX1 as of now and can't wait to give a listen with the V6 Stage. 

 

One other thing I was thinking of....would anyone post a pic or two or perhaps list a comprehensive checklist of what you're doing to conserve battery life? Daily I have had airplane mode ON, screen at its dimmest with a 30 sec turn OFF, all wifi and bluetooth OFF naturally, and location services OFF as well. I think that is pretty much all one could do to extend battery life. I seem to be getting maybe 20hrs +/- from a single charge from 0 - 100% full. Was curious if this is consistent with anyone else? As it states in the online description something like 32 hrs of continuous playback. I wonder what that is based on for playback options......

 

Anywho, would strongly suggest this DAP to anyone!!! it has been a fantastic experience thus far, and i can totally understand why people were selling there AK120's for this.

32h is at lowest res mp3 in one go with all off. never have I ever come close to any battery life stated by sony. when they tell me 35h in my head it means 15h so you're good as you are with 20.

 

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Originally Posted by Audiowood View Post
 

Hey anyone heard a diff with DSEE HX on and off? In the menu, it say "Recover the high-tone range lost with digital music. The available playback time of a full battery charge may be reduced". I turn on and off and no diff in SQ.

it might not exist any difference to hear. your ears work well after 16khz? your phone actually stands its own after that frequency or is it 15 to 20db down in high freq at some point? is your music rich enough in high freq for something to be heard? do you use a low resolution lossy codec?

mp3@320 is already pretty much too good for this.

 

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the ZX1 might not be capped according to some because it does not come supplied with headphones...

I don't think that has anything to do with the volume cap ? Sony are not supplying bog standard phones with this player, because they expect consumers to buy ( or already have ) quality headphones, to go with this "flagship player". ( "Here's our flagship £550 Hi Res DAP....and we'll throw in some naff in ear headphones"....not going happen...Sony, would think it a bit of an insult to the consumer, if they did that. ) I'll be very very surprised if the U.K. / Europe ZX1 isn't volume capped.

 

the reasoning behind ok-guy's post is good, as if they don't provide a phone, they can't clearly say how many DB will come out from the owner personal phone. so they don't know where to "cut". but I don't know if the euro limit is set in volt or power or DB?

post #2987 of 7457
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Originally Posted by HERMANtheSMASHE View Post
 

Oh BTW have been held hostage by my ZX1 literally all week  :etysmile:  This thing is amazing as a stand alone DAP with IEM, have been more than pleased. Almost the minute i received it on Mon i loaded up 80gb of flac and alac on it, most of it being 24/192 files. Let's just say that it seems I have rediscovered some of my music all over again! Pink Floyd live at Pompeii has sounded simply amazing with the wide open sound-stage of this DAP. Will post a pic or two when I finally get my CIEM's from 1964 ears. I'm currently running a pair of Shure 215's on the ZX1 as of now and can't wait to give a listen with the V6 Stage. 

 

One other thing I was thinking of....would anyone post a pic or two or perhaps list a comprehensive checklist of what you're doing to conserve battery life? Daily I have had airplane mode ON, screen at its dimmest with a 30 sec turn OFF, all wifi and bluetooth OFF naturally, and location services OFF as well. I think that is pretty much all one could do to extend battery life. I seem to be getting maybe 20hrs +/- from a single charge from 0 - 100% full. Was curious if this is consistent with anyone else? As it states in the online description something like 32 hrs of continuous playback. I wonder what that is based on for playback options......

 

Anywho, would strongly suggest this DAP to anyone!!! it has been a fantastic experience thus far, and i can totally understand why people were selling there AK120's for this.

 

As far as battery 24/192 is probably draining the battery more than your typical 16/44.1 or 24/96. i do the same thing with battery preservation but not sure what kind of battery i will get. I don't have it running for that long at the same time and also have it idle so it turns out to be a lot more tan 20 hours. I use it maybe 4 hours continuously at most so hard to tell what the battery life is like but it seems i only have to charge every few days. 

post #2988 of 7457
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Originally Posted by Audiowood View Post
 

 

You can search from folder view & a drop down of the track name will be shown. You will not be able to see the tracks in a its folder for searching. You can see tracks in the folder only when you click on the folder view without searching.

 

Description on official website:

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 圧縮音源をCD以上の高音質にアップグレードする「DSEE HX」

音楽ファイルの高音域を補完するとともに、サンプリング周波数とビットレートを本来の数値より高めることで、 CD(44.1kHz/16bit)以上の音質(192kHz/24bit-48kHz/24bit)に変換。MP3などの高圧縮音源もCD以上の高音質 になり、さらにクリアな躍動感あるサウンドを楽しめます。

Seems to be some kind of upsampling algorithm/filter..

 

Have tried with and without it for a few days and decided to keep it on, the effect is subtle but pleasant.

post #2989 of 7457
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 圧縮音源をCD以上の高音質にアップグレードする「DSEE HX」

音楽ファイルの高音域を補完するとともに、サンプリング周波数とビット レートを本来の数値より高めることで、 CD(44.1kHz/16bit)以上の音質(192kHz/24bit-48kHz/24bit)に変換。MP3などの高圧縮音源もCD以上の高音質 になり、さらにクリアな躍動感あるサウンドを楽しめます。

 

 

 

 

Google Translation, for the benefit of us English-speakers:

 

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Upgrade to high-quality sound of CD or more compressed sound source "DSEE HX"

In addition to complement the high range of the music files, and by increasing than the number of the original bit rate and sampling frequency, and converts the sound quality of the CD (44.1kHz/16bit) or more (192kHz/24bit-48kHz/24bit). High compression of the sound source such as MP3 will also be high-quality sound of CD or more, I can enjoy the sound with a clear sense of movement further.

Edited by Mython - 1/9/14 at 12:58pm
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but the "old" dsee was mostly about restoring high frequencies. so did they add the upsampling to it or is it again a case of sony keeping names for different stuff?

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As far as battery 24/192 is probably draining the battery more than your typical 16/44.1 or 24/96. i do the same thing with battery preservation but not sure what kind of battery i will get. I don't have it running for that long at the same time and also have it idle so it turns out to be a lot more tan 20 hours. I use it maybe 4 hours continuously at most so hard to tell what the battery life is like but it seems i only have to charge every few days. 

Yea that's kinda what I figured as well, that the higher bit rate would be draining the battery faster. Daily, I have been using it for around 6 hours continuously and then letting it run idle, then some more mild use in the eve. and then turning it completely off at night. All in all prob. around 8 - 9hrs of solid use in a day, so with that listening pattern the usage has so far been about a charge every other day to every 2. Will run a test probably this weekend of a constant burn with 24/192 music from a full charge to 0% and record how many hours it lasted. Of course with the settings I mentioned previously. Hope this information will help someone out :D at some point.

 

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32h is at lowest res mp3 in one go with all off. never have I ever come close to any battery life stated by sony. when they tell me 35h in my head it means 15h so you're good as you are with 20.

Cool thanks!

post #2992 of 7457
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Atrac is lossless... so is WAV & Flac.

 

this is exactly the same as other Walkman's - Z1060/70, F806/7 & F886/7

 



not all ATRAC is lossless, most isn't. ATRAC3+ 64 through to 352kbps is lossy, but should be gapless and is gapless on MZ-RH1, just wondered if still was gapless on this android platform?

 

All Sony Walkmans regardless of platform are gapless with ATRAC - this includes Android-based ones. Most of my music is encoded at 352k.

post #2993 of 7457
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any release time frame for the US?

Not announced, and neither was the new Z1 Compact either. US may not get either as it's looking now. The Euro ZX1 has ATRAC not listed on the spec sheet. Everything else appears to be the same.

post #2994 of 7457
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Originally Posted by castleofargh View Post
 

but the "old" dsee was mostly about restoring high frequencies. so did they add the upsampling to it or is it again a case of sony keeping names for different stuff?

The description seems like the former one, but who knows if Sony has changed the whole implementation

post #2995 of 7457
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Originally Posted by Audiowood View Post
 

 

Yes & no.

 

No, If you use the stock player, you will not be able to adjust the band EQ to reduce bass as that option is greyed out once the clear audio + is on.

Yes, if you use 3rd party apps. you can turn on the clear+ audio in the main settings, and then go to your 3rd party apps and reduce bass from there.

 

 I have tried it with poweramp so far and have been going back and forth with the stock player and I find it hard to tell the differences (with all EQ completely off), I am using IEM 1P2. If there is a reduce in quality, I would like to know too what I should look out for as I can hardly tell the diff. I tried a blind test and I fail. They sound the same so far..

 

I actually like the power amp because its interface is so fluid (much more fluid than stock) and I like to sort by Genre first then album, while the stock player, sort by genre then artist. So you can have hundreds of these artist in that genre instead of by Album cover art. This is especially painful if you own CD compilation where you have many artist in single CD, you will end up with hundreds of 1 track folder. The stock player album art is very tiny as it squeeze 3 album across instead of 2 album. Last thing is the stock player is not very responsive, sometimes it will not respond in 1 touch, u need to touch again. Of course I am just been picky, I believe many is very happy with stock player.

 

OK that's also nice to know.

 

I'm still wondering about the quality and effect of using the Clear Audio + to REDUCE bass levels.

 

Can anyone comment on this? How DSP-digital does it sound (again, using the feature to LOWER bass EQ)? Does setting Clear Audio + to a negative value affect the mids and highs as well? How does it affect the bass? And which regions (Hz)?

 

Sorry to bang on about this, but I'm sure I'm not the only person who isn't arrogant (or ignorant) enough to think that EQ is pointless. Every piece in the chain adds its own characteristics and FR. Every set of ears hears differently. I really don't understand how manufacturers can sell an absence of EQ as a plus point.

 

Nice to hear that poweramp works well for you, Audiowood. I might well end up getting this player and using that sw. Its EQ looks very customisable.

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Delete post.


Edited by Audiowood - 1/9/14 at 5:02pm
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I have deleted the above post as I was testing the clear audio with 3rd party player (power amp).

 

I notice that the clear audio works very differently between stock and 3rd party apps. The clear audio sounds much better with stock player than 3rd party apps. For 3rd party apps, the clear audio needs to turn off as it make vocal very distance.

 

Also I notice that the clear audio + works very similar to digiZoid zo2 except that its sound even better in my humble opinion.

 

Ok try this link to get a feel for the clear audio + on and off. (REMEMBER TO PUT IN HEADPHONE as you can't hear much diff with pc speaker)

 

 

Now after you hear this.. add in more treble in the 16K (+4) region, widen the sound stage in your imagination, & push up the 1k (+6) for vocal  and you pretty much get a feel of clear audio+.


Edited by Audiowood - 1/9/14 at 5:26pm
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This is what they say about clear audio back in 2009. But now its clear audio + (with a plus)

 

post #2999 of 7457
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Originally Posted by Audiowood View Post
 

This is what they say about clear audio back in 2009. But now its clear audio + (with a plus)

 

 

 

Hmmmm... what intrigues me about that is that (unless I have misinterpreted) ClearAudio is going in the opposite direction to the 'crossfeed' feature of some amps (e.g. SPL Phonitor), which is intended to make headphone listening more realistic.

 

So which is the most realistic? LOL

 

That's a really strange contradiction in approaches, with both, supposedly, aiming at a more realistic headphone listening experience.

post #3000 of 7457

Guys I have a Wiki question which I'm desperate for a solution to my problem... so any advice would be welcomed.

 

I wonder if you could possibly help regarding connecting the Sony ZX1 or F886/7 Walkman's to the Chord Hugo... I have this WM-Port>Female USB connector which is meant to allow for connection to a exterior DAC, so far my mate can't find a way to connect to the Hugo via USB, do I need a special USB lead?... if you could advise it would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

Chord Hugo... http://www.head-fi.org/t/693028/chord-hugo-to-go-portable-dsd-dac-amp


Edited by OK-Guy - 1/9/14 at 8:14pm
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