Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Source Gear › Sony NWZ-ZX1 - 35th Walkman Anniversary model
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Sony NWZ-ZX1 - 35th Walkman Anniversary model - Page 149

post #2221 of 6035
Quote:
Originally Posted by sicko View Post
 

When the site worked, I checked the specs for the Walkman Z. The figures were very close to the DX100 (both from the line-out).

The specs include FR, noise level, dynamic range, THD, IMD, crosstalk and a few more.


seriously??

 

good,we want similar figures for zx1

 

someone ought to do it

post #2222 of 6035
Quote:
Originally Posted by sardar17 View Post
 


seriously??

 

good,we want similar figures for zx1

 

someone ought to do it

Yeah, I'd be very happy to see someone doing the measurements with the RMAA tool.

post #2223 of 6035
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnakChan View Post

A tweet from Takoyaki-san, ZX1's backordered till Jan 31st

 

  Anak, do you know why this happens  Did Sony underestimate demand? Or do they deliberately only put a certain amount out to create interest? Or do Sony not have the manufacturing capability/parts etc?

post #2224 of 6035
Quote:
Originally Posted by OK-Guy View Post
 

 

If you have 'SonicStage 4.3' it's just a click... alternatively you can drag & drop with ease

 

Have you managed to get Sonic Stage to work on Windows 7? I'm stuch with a previous Sony DAP that I cant load into! It was this that made me wary of buying into Sony again, but I do fancy this ZX1 if we get a UK release announced at CES.

post #2225 of 6035

If Sony is getting a lot of 'international' orders online, I dont see a reason why they would bring it off shores then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewH13 View Post
 

 

  Anak, do you know why this happens  Did Sony underestimate demand? Or do they deliberately only put a certain amount out to create interest? Or do Sony not have the manufacturing capability/parts etc?

post #2226 of 6035

Sorry double post.

post #2227 of 6035
Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicHolyGhost View Post

Fiio L5 is the LOD for sony walkman...
Not sure of its quality
Thanks AnakChan for cleaning this thread up (only wish he could do the same for the X5 thread too... LoL).

For the line out, I hope if someone can confirm if its a true line out similar to other audiophile DAP or more ipod level like LOD that is designed to work with portable amp. If possible, I would be grateful if someone can share some impressions of the SQ for the same.

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by ButtUglyJeff View Post
 

 

You've had less then a stellar experience using the zx1 through your tu-05?  Could you expand on this?  Not liking headphone out to the amp?  You feel you more of a true "line out"?  Or do you suspect just bad synergy?

 

I was also wondering if there was anything in the settings to make the headphone out more like a "line out" signal?

 

 

I have tried using the ZX1 with the tu-05 via the headphone out and with the Fiio LOD. In both cases (with both the th900 and 3003i), the sound was more closed in, less airy, less detail, and seemingly less bass. With my m8 driving the tu-05, I get fantastic sound, quite the opposite of what I just described. I suspect bad synergy with the headphone out and either bad synergy and/or poor quality of the Fiio LOD. I have another LOD on the way. Kind of defeats the purpose of the ZX1 anyway, as it is a phenomenal sounding player driving both sets of those 'phones directly. 

post #2228 of 6035
Quote:
Originally Posted by OK-Guy View Post
 

After a lot of consideration I've decided to invest in another Z1070... I'm not selling my ZX1 for the time being as I want to investigate the hi-res side of things in January.

 

There is so much that is right with the ZX1/F887 (the differences are very minimal) but I am still missing the SQ of my WM-Z... there is something going on in the lower-mids & the upper bass that make 'some' recordings almost unlistenable on the ZX1.. I'm trying to figure whether this is because it is a dedicated hi-res DAP & I'm only using Red-Book 'lossless' files has something to do with it... both DAP's (ZX1 & F887) are off to a hi-end Hi-Fi manufacturer in the UK after Xmas, they will advise me how to get the best out of these DAP's for my own listening pleasure.

 

The best results I have achieved using RB files is with the PHA-2/combo, obviously some people will have hi-res content available to them so will probably not have the minor SQ problems I am experiencing but I am starting from scratch, until I get that content onto these DAP's the jury is well & truly out.

 

Roughly 30% of my music is from the golden era of the 60/70's & this is where I'm having problems with the SQ... I don't seem to have any problems with well produced Albums, the ZX1/F887 handle everything with aplomb and is an absolute joy to listen to, I could not be happier... but there's a 'but' and I cannot ignore that.

 

The probable solution for me is to have both the WM-Z & ZX1(or F887), one for RB-lossless the other for Hi-Res files... I reckon I'll be more than satisfied then.

If I'm honest I'm feeling mixed feelings about the F886, from being very impressed, to not so. I need to listen to more music ( more varied music ) before I decide to take the plunge and purchase a ZX1. ( I'm sure i'll probably cave in at some point ! ? )

I've only listened to cd's ripped to flac and the undeniable thing is the detail & clarity, but is this down to the player, or the flac conversion ?? I'd say the latter, going by listening to flac via my Oppo player.

Depending on what type of music I've listened to, I've come to the opinion, that it's either the best I've heard the music, ( regards detail, and overall soundstage. ) or I've felt it can be a little too much high end, but that perception may be due to hearing more detail in the soundstage ? The degree of separation is also something you have to get use to. I'm hearing things in recordings, that I've not been aware of before. As you say, I think well produced albums are fine. Well anyway.....off to listen some more !

post #2229 of 6035
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob49 View Post

If I'm honest I'm feeling mixed feelings about the F886, from being very impressed, to not so. I need to listen to more music ( more varied music ) before I decide to take the plunge and purchase a ZX1. ( I'm sure i'll probably cave in at some point ! ? )
I've only listened to cd's ripped to flac and the undeniable thing is the detail & clarity, but is this down to the player, or the flac conversion ?? I'd say the latter, going by listening to flac via my Oppo player.
Depending on what type of music I've listened to, I've come to the opinion, that it's either the best I've heard the music, ( regards detail, and overall soundstage. ) or I've felt it can be a little too much high end, but that perception may be due to hearing more detail in the soundstage ? The degree of separation is also something you have to get use to. I'm hearing things in recordings, that I've not been aware of before. As you say, I think well produced albums are fine. Well anyway.....off to listen some more !

I highly suspect it's the player, not the file format.
post #2230 of 6035
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob49 View Post
 

If I'm honest I'm feeling mixed feelings about the F886, from being very impressed, to not so. I need to listen to more music ( more varied music ) before I decide to take the plunge and purchase a ZX1. ( I'm sure i'll probably cave in at some point ! ? )

I've only listened to cd's ripped to flac and the undeniable thing is the detail & clarity, but is this down to the player, or the flac conversion ?? I'd say the latter, going by listening to flac via my Oppo player.

Depending on what type of music I've listened to, I've come to the opinion, that it's either the best I've heard the music, ( regards detail, and overall soundstage. ) or I've felt it can be a little too much high end, but that perception may be due to hearing more detail in the soundstage ? The degree of separation is also something you have to get use to. I'm hearing things in recordings, that I've not been aware of before. As you say, I think well produced albums are fine. Well anyway.....off to listen some more !


what else have u got to compare this to??

post #2231 of 6035
Quote:
Originally Posted by woodcans View Post


I highly suspect it's the player, not the file format.


file formats matter a lot,i mean a lot

 

not mp3 vs flac but well recorded or ripped ones vs poorly done ones

 

even a well recorded and ripped 128 kbps can sound amazing!!

post #2232 of 6035

based on my brief experience with a Sony Hi-MD player, it seems Sony does perform better using their own ATRAC format over MP3...

post #2233 of 6035
Quote:
Originally Posted by CosmicHolyGhost View Post
 

based on my brief experience with a Sony Hi-MD player, it seems Sony does perform better using their own ATRAC format over MP3...


The attract3+ formant is far better than MP3, However it is on par with AAC.

post #2234 of 6035
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob49 View Post
 

If I'm honest I'm feeling mixed feelings about the F886, from being very impressed, to not so. I need to listen to more music ( more varied music ) before I decide to take the plunge and purchase a ZX1. ( I'm sure i'll probably cave in at some point ! ? )

I've only listened to cd's ripped to flac and the undeniable thing is the detail & clarity, but is this down to the player, or the flac conversion ?? I'd say the latter, going by listening to flac via my Oppo player.

Depending on what type of music I've listened to, I've come to the opinion, that it's either the best I've heard the music, ( regards detail, and overall soundstage. ) or I've felt it can be a little too much high end, but that perception may be due to hearing more detail in the soundstage ? The degree of separation is also something you have to get use to. I'm hearing things in recordings, that I've not been aware of before. As you say, I think well produced albums are fine. Well anyway.....off to listen some more !

 

 

A number of people in this thread have mentioned that the NW-ZX1 (and, in your case, F886) treble presentation can sometimes overstep the mark. Whilst this may simply be the sound 'character' of the DAP, isn't it also possible it might relate to whatever impedance the output of the F886/NW-ZX1 happens to be? AFAIK, there is no figure yet provided as to what the OI is.

 

In defence of the likely OI of the ZX1, I must say that my old Sony D-777 does a marvelous job, overall, with driving low-impedance CIEMs, so Sony have clearly been careful about OI in the past and there is no particular reason why they should have dismissed its importance whilst engineering present-day Walkmans.

 

If anyone here can read Japanese or Chinese, and happens to notice that someone has provided a figure for OI, please would you be kind enough to share that information here on Head-fi?

Thankyou


Edited by Mython - 12/20/13 at 7:35am
post #2235 of 6035
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob49 View Post
 

If I'm honest I'm feeling mixed feelings about the F886, from being very impressed, to not so. I need to listen to more music ( more varied music ) before I decide to take the plunge and purchase a ZX1. ( I'm sure i'll probably cave in at some point ! ? )

I've only listened to cd's ripped to flac and the undeniable thing is the detail & clarity, but is this down to the player, or the flac conversion ?? I'd say the latter, going by listening to flac via my Oppo player.

Depending on what type of music I've listened to, I've come to the opinion, that it's either the best I've heard the music, ( regards detail, and overall soundstage. ) or I've felt it can be a little too much high end, but that perception may be due to hearing more detail in the soundstage ? The degree of separation is also something you have to get use to. I'm hearing things in recordings, that I've not been aware of before. As you say, I think well produced albums are fine. Well anyway.....off to listen some more !


Try to use another player than the sony stock one. for example, like PowerAmp. Then equalize to your likings :). FLAC conversion should not matter, since it is already lossless.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Portable Source Gear
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Source Gear › Sony NWZ-ZX1 - 35th Walkman Anniversary model