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Originally Posted by cn11 View Post
 

 

I'll try to explain what I'm hearing... Regarding the bass boost, to me, it seems deeper and more impactful than my F807 for sure. But it's more present in the lowest extension, not the mid-bass area, so it's not interfering with the mids in the least. With the midrange, I hear it as nicely present and not recessed at all. If anything, vocals have a more natural tone to them than the older F. I think what's going on is that with good recordings there's more space around the mids in the rest of the range, so you get this sense that things are more 'spread out' around it, maybe?? By contrast, the F807 has a more constrained sense of space so the bass, mids, and treble are sort of tighter together. The mids on the ZX1 aren't further away from the listener, I don't think, at all. Treble also has a touch more clarity and definition... again here there is more space around the notes (triangles, cymbals, etc) which gives that tactile sense of blackness between them. Here there's no false boost either, it's natural and in line with the rest of the range. 

 

that pretty much nails my thoughts regarding the WM-Z (except the bass(?)... the more closed in sound is probably what I'm missing with 60/70's music, nice piece btw.

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Originally Posted by cn11 View Post

I'll try to explain what I'm hearing... Regarding the bass boost, to me, it seems deeper and more impactful than my F807 for sure. But it's more present in the lowest extension, not the mid-bass area, so it's not interfering with the mids in the least. With the midrange, I hear it as nicely present and not recessed at all. If anything, vocals have a more natural tone to them than the older F. I think what's going on is that with good recordings there's more space around the mids in the rest of the range, so you get this sense that things are more 'spread out' around it, maybe?? By contrast, the F807 has a more constrained sense of space so the bass, mids, and treble are sort of tighter together. The mids on the ZX1 aren't further away from the listener, I don't think, at all. Treble also has a touch more clarity and definition... again here there is more space around the notes (triangles, cymbals, etc) which gives that tactile sense of blackness between them. Here there's no false boost either, it's natural and in line with the rest of the range. 

What can I say, you know the expression I couldn't have said any better, that's exactly what you just did. Now I understand when someone says it's airy. To me it sounds like the dap to beat, some of the features I find missing in the player is the ability to seperate instruments so that you feel the distance between the musicians, that is how it sounds according to your description that the player has that ability. To me it's a huge bonus and a trait that one would be seeking. Unless daps to be introduced next coming year pull the same trick, this is going to be the dap to own.
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[Mod modified: OT quote removed]
Would you all move this discussion to PM or another thread, please?
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Originally Posted by ButtUglyJeff View Post
 

I was wondering is any ZX1 early adopters have paired their new DAP with their TU-05 or TUR-06?  I know, at least, AnakChan has one, and maybe others?

 

Sorry I don't have a WM-port LOD. I do need to get one as that's been on my mind too.

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Originally Posted by barbes View Post
 

Would you all move this discussion to PM or another thread, please?

 

I do kind of agree with your sentiments but I'd like to point out that there are others who come into this thread giving it all the 'my DAP is better than your DAP' malarkey which disrupts things more than someone trying to start a Head-Fi adventure, the downward steps to poverty should be taken seriously and it really is nice to be helpful at this time of the year, being the festive-season & all that... we tend to drift off track in the Walkman threads anyhow, liking to chew the cud of nothingness.

 

I know people want to read reviews (as I do to), there will be some terrific ones as some very experience Walkman owners will be offering their opinions now their ZX1's are coming home to roost... I will relish reading the thoughts of cn11, FortisFlyer & Anak these guys know how to write a good review, I was hoping for Obi-Turoks thoughts but I'll probably pm him on those when I get home... we also have new owners of the ZX1 who will also post their reviews, I'm already enjoying their initial thoughts.

 

This year I have been blessed by God for sure, I've somehow managed to accumulate some lovely Sony gear... God has rewarded my sensible purchases by relenting on my purgatory of supporting The Hammers, twice actually... ohhh  whennnnn theeee Spurssss goooo 2-1 downnnnnn' (insert 3-0 if you want), semi-finals for us Fortis, looks like you didn't have to sack the Manager afterall.

 

anyhow your right & I've digressed... back to the ZX1 :tongue_smile: 


Edited by OK-Guy - 12/19/13 at 7:44am
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Originally Posted by OK-Guy View Post
 

 

I like headphone-out it gives me a bit more control if I fancy the odd tweak, both are clean sounding.

 

I'm preferring my 60/70's music via the PHA-2 (h/o), it gives me a bit more warmth but it's still not quite up to Z1070 levels of satisfaction.

 

when I get home on Sunday I'll upload some SACD/Gold-Disc's and see how Hi-Res goes... I know you can upload CD's into Flac via Media-Go, anyone tried uploading a SACD etc. to see if it gives higher resolution with type of CD?... advice is welcomed.


I have hybrid SACD's ( Surround layer & stereo layer ) that I've uploaded to my F886. Converted to flac ( 44.1 ) They sound excellent. The same detail, clarity & seperation that I've found with all music so far. I don't know if t's possible to upload the hi res layer of SACD's ? It may be possible with jriver ? ( but I've only used this for a free trial period....before I bought the F886. )


Edited by Rob49 - 12/19/13 at 9:12am
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Finally have chance to hold ZX1 with my own hand today. The build quality and the smoothness of OS are really amaze me, it's just like hold a small XperiaZ but with superb audio quality. (well, I even prefer the "leather skin" texture on the ZX1 compare to backcase of XperiaZ)

 

Sound wise, I tried it with ER4B, what I can describe is the clean, very spacious, a bit to neutral side but with very good smooth treble. Damn good product from Sony indeed.

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I have hybrid SACD's ( Surround layer & stereo layer ) that I've uploaded to my F886. Converted to flac ( 44.1 ) They sound excellent. The same detail & clarity that I've found with all music so far. I don't know if t's possible to upload the hi res layer of SACD's ? It may be possible with jriver ? ( but I've only used this for a free trial period....before I bought the F886. )

 

Rob... I know I'll be able to do it via db-Poweramp etc., I wanted to know if Media-Go allowed the rates to be changed when you upload a Gold-Disc or SACD into Flac, still waiting to hear if Fortis managed an Album-art solution on ZX1 for Wav... if he's solved that I might re-rip most my CD's to that & see what I can upload into Hi-Res via whatever, I'm certainly not going to download much if I don't have to, it takes forever & I've got great speeds (for the UK), buying from Amazon & uploading is way more efficient.


Edited by OK-Guy - 12/19/13 at 9:27am
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Originally Posted by FortisFlyer75 View Post
 

 

 

I am about to retire to bed in a a minute but will send a pm tomorrow night and talk some more and arrange to meet up some where to have a listen to the ZX1 which the pleasure would all be mine.  I am off over Christmas so will be available during the day as well if it made things easier. 

Pm you tommorow night :wink_face:

 

 

 

 

   Thanks Fortis, look forward to hearing from you. Thanks OKGuy for putting us in touch. Wow Spurs / WHam!

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Rob... I know I'll be able to do it via db-Poweramp etc., I wanted to know if Media-Go allowed the rates to be changed when you upload a Gold-Disc or SACD into Flac, still waiting to hear if Fortis managed an Album-art solution on ZX1 for Wav... if he's solved that I might re-rip most my CD's to that & see what I can upload into Hi-Res via whatever, I'm certainly not going to download much if I don't have to, it takes forever & I've got great speeds (for the UK), buying from Amazon & uploading is way more efficient.


I'm not exactly sure, Paul ? I don't think you can do any conversion on media go ?? ( Just checked, there is conversion, but don't know if you can change conversion rates ?? ) For the trial period of jriver, I tried converting redbook cd to dsd ( it couldn't do that as such, and converted to dsf ) I then noticed these files were showing on media go, in "high resolution section" ( but I have sinced deleted, or lost them, once my free jriver trial expired. )

I downloaded poweramp. ( two week trial. ) Is there only one poweramp softwear. Haven't tried it out too much yet. Not sure what benefits there are using this ??


Edited by Rob49 - 12/19/13 at 9:55am
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Originally Posted by AndrewH13 View Post
 

 

 

   Thanks Fortis, look forward to hearing from you. Thanks OKGuy for putting us in touch. Wow Spurs / WHam!

 

we're on a roll, we've won one the trot... next up Man Utd & you goons (Arsenal to the viewers)... the misery isn't quite complete we have Man City in the Semi's which means the Fat-One's job is safe... :confused_face:

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[Mod Edited: SACD/hires benefits OT removed. Please bring to Sound Science]
 

Back to the NW-ZX1, am I to take it, from Rob's post, that one cannot simply drag-&-drop .DSD files to the NW+ZX1 using windows explorer? That seems rather strange.

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So...

 

1) Has anyone tried the ZX1 with hard to drive over-ear headphones? (Sennheiser HD600s, T50RP modded headphones, etc.)?

2) Is the "line-out" (I guess via their WM-port) clean sounding and which amps has anyone paired them with?

3) Is sound quality a step up from either the FiiO X3 or iBasso DX50 and can it compete with higher priced (but crappy) DAPs? Not in terms of power, but in terms of sound quality? (especially when using the line-out option)

4) Has anyone measured battery life while ONLY playing music (either MP3s or FLACs) to see if it's up to spec?

 

Currently I have a Cowon C2 and a FiiO X3, love and hate some things on both of them and I've always liked Sony. Thought about getting the F887 (or which ever one is 64GB) but, then I remembered it's just 64GB and I'm planning on re-ripping my CDs to FLACs or 320kbps which of course will take more space so 128GB sounds good. My other option would be to go the AK120/100 but still I'd be living with a crappy UI experience... I don't think I want that anymore...

 

 

Thanks all.

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Originally Posted by Mython View Post

 

 

Back to the NW-ZX1, am I to take it, from Rob's post, that one cannot simply drag-&-drop .DSD files to the NW+ZX1 using windows explorer? That seems rather strange.

 

it's simpler than that, you right-click on file & send it to the Walkman... I learnt a whole lot with my one & only downloaded Hi-Res file.

 

Rob's problem was with the program expiring I believe... I enjoyed your post & will reply after I've digested it a bit more.

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