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post #16 of 45

No sibilance on my own pair yet, it was only present on the demo unit.

post #17 of 45

I usually use a pair of Klipsch x7i's for daily use.  This seems like a solid choice for a sports IEM.  I've heard Bose's MIE2 and was not very impressed so hopefully this would be a good option.

post #18 of 45

The CKX9 are now a smidge under $75 at...

http://www.nothingbutsoftware.com/Product/273228-ATHCKX9SV-AudioTechnica-ATHCKX9-SonicFuel-InEar-HeadphonesStereoSilverMiniphoneWired32-Ohm5-Hz-25-kHzGold-PlatedEarbudBinauralInear394-ft-Cable-4961310122560?ai=1550&gclid=CN3ey4T_8boCFXHxOgodMSMA7w

 

Plus use SHOPATHOME5 for another 5% off. So, for the U.S. people that is $71.15 shipped.


Edited by jant71 - 11/19/13 at 3:35pm
post #19 of 45
Thread Starter 

Well, first impressions of the CKX5 are not favorable.

 

So far...

 

The PROS

-Cable length issue fixed. Perhaps too long now? It's about 12-18 inches shorter than the CKM500 cord WITH its extension cable.

-Color. I got mine in lime green.

 

The CONS

-They are HUMONGOUS compared to the CKM500. I was blown away when I took them out of the box.

-I am often a believer that less is more. Well in the case of the CKX, the nozzle (needlessly) swivels in a socket and there are TWO sets of rubber to deal with on each IEM. The first is the tip itself and then the tip holder thing. In regards to the latter, they are different from right to left, so you have to keep that straight as well. They are even labeled.

-Trying to fit the tips on these things is close to impossible thanks to the moveable nozzle. I think I spent 10-15 minutes just trying to refit them with with the included larger tips. Sort of like trying to play whack-a-mole with a moving target.

-The moveable nozzle just screams limited lifespan of these things.

-They aren't nearly as comfortable as the CKM500.

-They don't isolate as well as the CKM500.

 

The SOUND?

-Well, despite not being broken-in at this point, the bass is not there compared to the CKM500. In fact glaringly absent by comparison.

-The highs on the CKX5 are a little clearer. I would not call them shrill or fatiguing at all. At least this early in the game.

 

 

I'll wait to post additional comments later but so far I would file these under the "regrettable purchase" category.

post #20 of 45

I would have said to skip the lowest one which is a good rule with AT. This series is not 3/5/7 so the 5 may seem okay but it is 5/7/9 so the 5 is the bottom. Another rule is that the better phones use the larger drivers so even continuing to tweak the ~8mm driver can maybe get them better than previous ones but you can't expect too much from their budget driver. It really looks like the one to get is the CKX9.

 

Maybe try taking the C-chips off. They are to help them stay in the ear but you don't have to use them and I could see it making fit and comfort harder to achieve for some people.


Edited by jant71 - 11/20/13 at 1:49pm
post #21 of 45

Are the CKX9's larger than the CKX5?

post #22 of 45

I was very recently on a trip to Japan where I visited Yodobashi, which had heaps of earphones available to test with your own device. I tested the CKX 5, 7 and 9's. I found the 5's to have harsher highs, and almost non existent bass. The 7's were an slight upgrade in both these respects. The 9's blew me away however. They have a clarity and brightness with a airy soundstage that I do not find in anyway fatiguing. Bass is there, but not boomy, with a decent amp they can really get down low and not distort thanks to their 13mm driver. I would describe their sound as rich and immersive. If I recall correctly, I thought the CKX9's were more comfortable and felt smaller since they didn't have the swivelling bud mechanism.

 

I spent about 5hrs going around the store testing almost every IEM around with the same source (shure,etymotic,JBL,sony etc). Pick of my listening was the $700 Sennheiser IE800's and I would say the sound from the CKX9's was the closest the IE800s out of all the earphones I listened to (running back and forth comparing them). The highs in the IE800 did show slightly more detail... but it wasn't amazingly different (at least for my ears). It is bloody impressive though that Sennheiser can cram that quality of sound into such a small driver. I was quite surprised actually, since most high end IEM's seem to have very bright highs but no bass (But I realise everyone has different ears).

 

I ended up buying the CKX9's and am still very happy with the purchase. Previous posts are correct, in that they do not seem to isolate outside noise as well as others but I take that trade off for their open airy stage.


Edited by bryce007 - 11/20/13 at 5:55pm
post #23 of 45

The CKX9 is intriguing. I might just be in for some of that immersive AT big driver sound that people like from the CKS1000 without the extra bass. Seems it is the same in the 9 as well The coupon codes should go from 5% to 15% maybe even 20% for Black Friday. Maybe they can be had for about $60 which seems like a really great deal.

post #24 of 45
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Originally Posted by jant71 View Post
 

I would have said to skip the lowest one which is a good rule with AT. This series is not 3/5/7 so the 5 may seem okay but it is 5/7/9 so the 5 is the bottom. Another rule is that the better phones use the larger drivers so even continuing to tweak the ~8mm driver can maybe get them better than previous ones but you can't expect too much from their budget driver. It really looks like the one to get is the CKX9.

 

Maybe try taking the C-chips off. They are to help them stay in the ear but you don't have to use them and I could see it making fit and comfort harder to achieve for some people.

Are larger drivers definite indicators of better sound? I thought driver size really only affected bass quantity/quality and is harder to power?

post #25 of 45

In general no, size makes little difference. For AT specifically, yes. They use 8.0, 8.5, 8.8mm drivers in their lower end phones in recent times(not counting the 5.7 micro-drivers, which are a different OEM and a different series). So, if you see those 8.Xmm and a larger in a series just like the CKX, it is a safe bet to go for the larger driver. They pervade the lower end(CKP, CLR, CKL, CKM301/313/323 etc.) and are decent but just not the better one.

post #26 of 45

subbed for more impressions

post #27 of 45
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Originally Posted by bryce007 View Post
 

I was very recently on a trip to Japan where I visited Yodobashi, which had heaps of earphones available to test with your own device.

 

I spent about 5hrs going around the store testing almost every IEM around with the same source (shure,etymotic,JBL,sony etc). Pick of my listening was the $700 Sennheiser IE800's and I would say the sound from the CKX9's was the closest the IE800s out of all the earphones I listened to (running back and forth comparing them). The highs in the IE800 did show slightly more detail... but it wasn't amazingly different (at least for my ears). It is bloody impressive though that Sennheiser can cram that quality of sound into such a small driver. I was quite surprised actually, since most high end IEM's seem to have very bright highs but no bass (But I realise everyone has different ears).

 

 

 

What was the source if I may ask?

post #28 of 45
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What was the source if I may ask?

 

It was my new Nexus 5 (Snapdragon 800 DAC), with FauxSound kernel, which allows me to individually control the analog headphone amplifier on the device.

With this mod it seems to happily go louder and clearer than my Fiio E5 headphone amp, so I don't bother using it anymore.

With the stock kernel, I find the power output insufficient for most high end headphones / IEM's


Edited by bryce007 - 11/21/13 at 5:43pm
post #29 of 45

I had a chance yesterday to compare the CKX9s to my friends HifiMan RE400's.

They have a fairly similar sound profile. The top end and vocals on the CKX9's seemed to have slightly more sparkle and more open than on the RE400's.

Soundstage was a fair bit wider on the CKX9's.

Bass wise, its hard to describe. The bass volume itself was very similar between the sets, but the CKX9's seemed to do it with more 'ease'? Kind of like going from a 6" computer subwoofer to a 12" home theatre subwoofer, it sounded more refined.

post #30 of 45

Any impression of the detail level vs. the RE400?


Edited by jant71 - 11/21/13 at 6:27pm
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