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post #91 of 389
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Originally Posted by mannp View Post
 

 

Many thanks Simon for your detailed response.

 

Generally just frustrated with Sony, in that they bring out the two devices in the UK UDA-1 and ZX1, but the Sony WMC-NWH10 is not available. So the best use cannot be used unless you've bought your device from Japan.

 

I'd like the PHA-2 but its not available yet in the UK.

 

I already have some expensive old missions that 'may' sound great with the DAC, but its expensive to try when all the other HiRes devices are showing up.

 

Its 5% off today, so I am dithering about whether to buy or hold out until Sony show their hand with the other HiRes devices, so I can choose the one that suits my needs.

 

I mainly listen via headphones and Squeezebox touch and dragonfly dac, but something that could do both and improve the Sony DA2400ES (don't laugh) sound that I have today, which I am sure it will do.


Hi Mannp,

 

I'm in a quandary too now, reading about the Oppo HA-1 ( and finding out there's 5% off the UDA-1 today. Totally agree about frustration of availability of Sony products !...for example the speakers - SS-HA3, not being available !!

post #92 of 389
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Thank you Simon, for that info. I might wait to see about the Oppo HA-1. ( Looks promising, reading on their website....) 

 

Most welcome Rod49, I have actually made an enquiry to their customer service. Their rep did tell me that it is going to be launched this month, and, he/she also stated that, it will easily be able to drive the LCD-3. 

post #93 of 389

Cheers Simon thanks again.

 

I have spoken to Sony and they don't even know if my ZX1 has arrived on the 31st March or not, so are not sure when it will ship.

 

They don't have record of the cable being available so I am just going to wait.

 

It seems they have SAP issues after the downtime and its a mess, so I won't bother any more, but will hang fire and wait and see how things work out.

 

Thanks again for your input.

post #94 of 389
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Originally Posted by Simon T View Post
 

 

Most welcome Rod49, I have actually made an enquiry to their customer service. Their rep did tell me that it is going to be launched this month, and, he/she also stated that, it will easily be able to drive the LCD-3. 


I've just e mailed a main Oppo UK dealer, that I've previously purchased from, so wait to hear reply.....

 

Did you know about the Oppo HA-1 before you purchased the Sony UDA-1 ? ( I'm assuming you wanted to match with your ZX1 ? )

You don't regret buying the UDA-1, at all ??

post #95 of 389

Hi Rob49

 

I completely agree, but it seems the usual way with Sony, but I've given up stressing about it today.

 

The sun is shining and listening to music is less stressful than trying to shop with sony :D

 

Good luck in your search.

post #96 of 389
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Originally Posted by mannp View Post
 

Hi Rob49

 

I completely agree, but it seems the usual way with Sony, but I've given up stressing about it today.

 

The sun is shining and listening to music is less stressful than trying to shop with sony :D

 

Good luck in your search.


Very true, mannp ! ( Yes, I'm relaxing listening to music too....)

post #97 of 389
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I've just e mailed a main Oppo UK dealer, that I've previously purchased from, so wait to hear reply.....

 

Did you know about the Oppo HA-1 before you purchased the Sony UDA-1 ? ( I'm assuming you wanted to match with your ZX1 ? )

You don't regret buying the UDA-1, at all ??

 

I knew it before I purchased the UDA-1, and, do not regret it at all... because, I was primarily looking for dac/amp and speaker set up for my office desk (had missed calls on my office phone before, coz, I was listening music with IEMs... :-P).

 

I guess it was a good excuse to my wife, for purchasing the SS-HA3 and the UDA-1...  hehe. 

 

In the future, if you have chance to hear the above mentioned set up in your nearby Sony Store/Center. No harm trying it out.

post #98 of 389
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Originally Posted by Simon T View Post
 

 

I knew it before I purchased the UDA-1, and, do not regret it at all... because, I was primarily looking for dac/amp and speaker set up for my office desk (had missed calls on my office phone before, coz, I was listening music with IEMs... :-P).

 

I guess it was a good excuse to my wife, for purchasing the SS-HA3 and the UDA-1...  hehe. 

 

In the future, if you have chance to hear the above mentioned set up in your nearby Sony Store/Center. No harm trying it out.


Thanks for your feedback, Simon. Unfortunately, I'm housebound, so it's not possible to go and demo. I have to make my purchase decisions, purely on positive review feedback.....( and finances, of course ! lol )

 

I can't use the "wife" excuse !! LOL 


Edited by Rob49 - 4/1/14 at 8:07am
post #99 of 389
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Thanks for your feedback, Simon. Unfortunately, I'm housebound, so it's not possible to go and demo. I have to make my purchase decisions, purely on positive review feedback.....( and finances, of course ! lol )

I can't use the "wife" excuse !! LOL 

Understand, hopefully nothing too serious... On a brighter "note" you can enjoy listening to music more.

You are right, this hobby is not cheap...

Well, don't tell her... But it is not easy being an audio enthusiat, and, having a partner telling me: Again??? How many pairs of ears do you have... to listen to all these earphones and headphones you buy :-p...

Alright Rob49... Good luck with your search for a suitable dac amp

Cheers
Simon T.
Edited by Simon T - 4/1/14 at 8:39am
post #100 of 389
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Originally Posted by Simon T View Post


Understand, hopefully nothing too serious... On a brighter "note" you can enjoy listening to music more.

You are right, this hobby is not cheap...

Well, don't tell her... But it is not easy being an audio enthusiat, and, having a partner telling me: Again??? How many pairs of ears do you have... to listen to all these earphones and headphones you buy :-p...

Alright Rob49... Good luck with your search for a suitable dac amp

Cheers
Simon T.


Thanks Simon, hopefully i'll make the right choice, ( should I decide to part with more money !! lol ) "How many pairs of ears do you have...." FUNNY !!

post #101 of 389

Sorry to bother you, Simon T, but I was wondering if you had connected any other audio equipment, to the UDA-1, such as a Super Audio CD player ? I assume it's not possible to connect a turntable, due to the fact there is no phono input ? Really clutching at the impossible here !! lol ( I have a SACD player & a Sony turntable, that are not being used, and wondered if there would be any sonic benefits from using the SACD player, through the UDA-1 ?

It appears that the SS-H3 speakers are not available anywhere in the U.K. at present ? Which is crazy really, when they're supposed to tie in specifically with the UDA-1 !! ( I'm wondering whether to go ahead & buy, and hope that the speakers will be available at some point ??

post #102 of 389

Hi Rob49,

 

Unfortunately, I have not connected the UDA-1 with any of your above mentioned audio sources. Thus, won't be able to tell you whether sonically they will improve your source or not.

 

In terms of connectivity, the UDA-1 has a couple of digital in (1 coaxial and 1 optical) and 1 analog in.

 

Your SACD player should be able to connect to any of the afore mentioned with the right cable. As for the Sony turntable connection, you may need a phone pre-amp. Or check whether, there are any interconnect cable available.

 

I am not sure why Sony conduct its business like that... puzzles me. Nevertheless, you can also, do a quick estimation of how much it will cost you to import it from Amazon.com. I understand, the UDA-1 is sold with various power supply requirements depending on which countries and/or regions it sells; but, since the SS-H3 speakers are passive components it should not matter where you buy it from.

 

By the way, this is the link in amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-WMC-NWH10-Conversion-Cable-Output/dp/B00FF086HE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396502818&sr=8-1&keywords=sony+wmc+nwh10 for the Sony WMC-NWH10 interconnect between your ZX1 and the UDA-1.

 

Cheers


Edited by Simon T - 4/2/14 at 10:27pm
post #103 of 389
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Originally Posted by Simon T View Post
 

Hi Rob49,

 

Unfortunately, I have not connected the UDA-1 with any of your above mentioned audio sources. Thus, won't be able to tell you whether sonically they will improve your source or not.

 

In terms of connectivity, the UDA-1 has a couple of digital in (1 coaxial and 1 optical) and 1 analog in.

 

Your SACD player should be able to connect to any of the afore mentioned with the right cable. As for the Sony turntable connection, you may need a phone pre-amp. Or check whether, there are any interconnect cable available.

 

I am not sure why Sony conduct its business like that... puzzles me. Nevertheless, you can also, do a quick estimation of how much it will cost you to import it from Amazon.com. I understand, the UDA-1 is sold with various power supply requirements depending on which countries and/or regions it sells; but, since the SS-H3 speakers are passive components it should not matter where you buy it from.

 

By the way, this is the link in amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-WMC-NWH10-Conversion-Cable-Output/dp/B00FF086HE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396502818&sr=8-1&keywords=sony+wmc+nwh10 for the Sony WMC-NWH10 interconnect between your ZX1 and the UDA-1.

 

Cheers


Thank you for your feedback Simon. I'm not sure whether to just bite the bullet and order the UDA-1 ? It's possible to buy the SS-H1 speakers, but they are to tie in with the HAP-S1....doesn't mean to say, you couldn't use them with the DAC ??

Do you specifically have to use the conversion cable ? Unless I've misunderstood, I thought there was a supplied cable ( of some sorts ! ) with the DAC ? How would you compare the differences to listening to the ZX1, on it's own. ( or even with a PHA, ) and listening through the DAC ? ( Are there obvious sonic differences / improvements ? ) Just realised the Sony-WMC-NWH10 cable is for the back USB, which will play higher bit / sample rates whereas the front USB won't ?

 

( My guess is, I would get stung heavily for customs charges, should I order outside of the U.K. ? )


Edited by Rob49 - 4/3/14 at 3:06am
post #104 of 389

Hi Rob49,

 

My point of view is that, if you are purchasing the UDA-1 as your primary DAC and headphone amp, it does sound good but might not be able to drive less efficient headphones. On the other hand, if you only use it as your primary DAC and you have your favourite headphone amp to drive your headphones, you might be taking less risk in your investment.

 

Can't really comment on the SS-H1 pairing with the UDA-1, as I have not hear it. Having said so, they are bigger and more expensive that the SS-HA3, by common sense they should sound at least louder.

 

You need the conversion cable to play hi-res music from the ZX1, this is because the UDA-1 stock USB-A to USB-B cable (to play hi-res audio from your computer), will not be able to fit into the ZX1 port. 

 

The found the ZX1 a little bit brighter and less powerful compared to the AK100. I guess, it has been a planned business strategy from Sony, so that, they could sell the PHA-2 with again another special PHA-2 stock cable to connect particularly to the ZX1 and its siblings cheaper hi-res DAPs (unfortunately, I have yet to receive my replacement PHA-2 to further comment on the pairing performance).

 

As for the pairing of the ZX1 to the UDA-1, I already gave my impressions to mannp a couple of days ago in this thread, in listening through the LCD-3 :-).

 

Please do not import the american version of the UDA-1, I think it is designed for 120v 60hz and the UK power environment is 220v 50hz; even you have a step down transformer. Your transformer may only step down the voltz but not the hertz. You will run the risk of burning the UDA-1.

 

Cheers

Simon T.

post #105 of 389

Thanks for further feedback & advice, Simon. Decisions, decisions !! I might wait till the Oppo is available & then decide which to purchase ?

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