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post #121 of 389

I was contemplating the SS-HA3 when they became available as they are supposed to be match to the ida-1.

 

That said, I haven't found anyone who stocks sony, so I'd have to buy them blind, which I am not keen on.

 

I suppose sony have the 30 return on them though. We'll see.

post #122 of 389
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I was contemplating the SS-HA3 when they became available as they are supposed to be match to the ida-1.

 

That said, I haven't found anyone who stocks sony, so I'd have to buy them blind, which I am not keen on.

 

I suppose sony have the 30 return on them though. We'll see.

I haven't found anywhere that stocks the SS-HA3, in the U.K. ? I'm still awaiting my HAP-S1 delivery. ( Regards 30 day return, I assume the customer is responsible for that ?? )

post #123 of 389

Not sure they have been released yet in the UK, but the mainstream stockists don't do Sony in my area.

 

You have to repackage, but I believe the postage is paid by Sony. There is a form in the box you will receive.

 

These devices are heavy, very solid, so it would not be cheap to post it back to them otherwise.

post #124 of 389
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Originally Posted by mannp View Post
 

Not sure they have been released yet in the UK, but the mainstream stockists don't do Sony in my area.

 

You have to repackage, but I believe the postage is paid by Sony. There is a form in the box you will receive.

 

These devices are heavy, very solid, so it would not be cheap to post it back to them otherwise.


Thanks for that info....hopefully, I won't feel the need to return ! ( Wish the delivery man would hurry up !! lol )

post #125 of 389

Hi guys, I've received my HAP-S1.....major frustration, with the very poorly explained HAP softwear !!!

 

My "computer" is showing in the list.....but I'm having no luck adding anything else, other than computer....which is then showing, 10.000 + files.

I don't want to transfer this many files.....i'll be of retirement age by the time is finished !! Can't you add individual files / albums from JRiver.....or any other audio programme ??

Sorry if it's a poor explanation ! ?.....but, SOMEONE PLEASE HELP !!!! 

post #126 of 389
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Originally Posted by Rob49 View Post
 

Hi guys, I've received my HAP-S1.....major frustration, with the very poorly explained HAP softwear !!!

 

My "computer" is showing in the list.....but I'm having no luck adding anything else, other than computer....which is then showing, 10.000 + files.

I don't want to transfer this many files.....i'll be of retirement age by the time is finished !! Can't you add individual files / albums from JRiver.....or any other audio programme ??

Sorry if it's a poor explanation ! ?.....but, SOMEONE PLEASE HELP !!!! 

 

 

Are your files on the local computer hard drive?

 

You can create different folders then add them into the HAP software. 

post #127 of 389
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Are your files on the local computer hard drive?

 

You can create different folders then add them into the HAP software. 


I believe so.....you'll have to excuse me, I suffer from severe M.E. ( which affects cognitive function, even for the simplest of instructions !! )

It's showing users / computer / music. I've never put my music into folders. ( as far as I'm aware ! ? ) I obviously have Windows Media Player, I also have Winamp & JRiver. ( and use Serviio for streaming. ) I'd like to just be able to access files on JRiver if possible ? ( I guess then ONLY way is to put them into folders, which for 10.000 music files, sounds long winded !! ?

Sorry for my ignorance !! ( and thank you, for your reply. )

post #128 of 389
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I believe so.....you'll have to excuse me, I suffer from severe M.E. ( which affects cognitive function, even for the simplest of instructions !! )

It's showing users / computer / music. I've never put my music into folders. ( as far as I'm aware ! ? ) I obviously have Windows Media Player, I also have Winamp & JRiver. ( and use Serviio for streaming. ) I'd like to just be able to access files on JRiver if possible ? ( I guess then ONLY way is to put them into folders, which for 10.000 music files, sounds long winded !! ?

Sorry for my ignorance !! ( and thank you, for your reply. )

 

Glad its arrived :biggrin:

 

From the beginning; you have to point the transfer software here -> http://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/product/HAP-S1#SoftwareAndDownloads to where your music files are stored.

 

this HAP Music Transfer for HAP-S1 audio player software will transfer all of your music to the hard drive of the HAP-S1.

 

I believe it organises them itself by looking at the tags within your files. I also believe it can use online databases to sort out the music, so the tags are correct etc.

 

If the files are not in directories on your computer (or were ever you store your music) then the device will store them how it wants on the device itself.

post #129 of 389
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Glad its arrived :biggrin:

 

 

I'm not so sure !!! ( It's been a very long day !!! )

 

I stopped the transfer, and it had transferred one song.....and I can't delete that....even though I clicked delete !!

 

I've got my Sony Hi Res Walkman, which I transfer converted DSD files to, using JRiver....and that's all I want to do, with the HAP-S1.....I know there's the online help guides, but what info / explanation is actually in the box, is basically nothing !! ( I can't even figure out how to put my music into folders....)

At this moment in time, I'm thinking I've spent £800, when I already have a free server & Oppo player, that does the same thing, i.e. plays flac files  ( The only difference is, I have to have my laptop on at all times, for that. )

ANY HELP, from anyone, would be much appreciated !

post #130 of 389
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Originally Posted by Rob49 View Post
 

I'm not so sure !!! ( It's been a very long day !!! )

 

I stopped the transfer, and it had transferred one song.....and I can't delete that....even though I clicked delete !!

 

I've got my Sony Hi Res Walkman, which I transfer converted DSD files to, using JRiver....and that's all I want to do, with the HAP-S1.....I know there's the online help guides, but what info / explanation is actually in the box, is basically nothing !! ( I can't even figure out how to put my music into folders....)

At this moment in time, I'm thinking I've spent £800, when I already have a free server & Oppo player, that does the same thing, i.e. plays flac files  ( The only difference is, I have to have my laptop on at all times, for that. )

ANY HELP, from anyone, would be much appreciated !

 

Basically yes; it does the same thing but without having to have the laptop on.

 

It effectively becomes the server and player all in one and you control it via the iPad or android tablet app.

 

I don't believe you have to put your files in folders.

 

If the files have names, tags and covers when you play in jriver then the sony will sort them out and store them in its own directories on its hard drive.

 

Sounds like you need to find where your files are in jriver, maybe in the music folder (sorry I use mac, so not sure about windows) and then point the song transfer app at them.

 

It says to connect the unit via wired network connection for the first transfer, as it is expected to take a while.

post #131 of 389
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Originally Posted by Rob49 View Post
 

I'm not so sure !!! ( It's been a very long day !!! )

 

I stopped the transfer, and it had transferred one song.....and I can't delete that....even though I clicked delete !!

 

I've got my Sony Hi Res Walkman, which I transfer converted DSD files to, using JRiver....and that's all I want to do, with the HAP-S1.....I know there's the online help guides, but what info / explanation is actually in the box, is basically nothing !! ( I can't even figure out how to put my music into folders....)

At this moment in time, I'm thinking I've spent £800, when I already have a free server & Oppo player, that does the same thing, i.e. plays flac files  ( The only difference is, I have to have my laptop on at all times, for that. )

ANY HELP, from anyone, would be much appreciated !

 

 

You can't manually copy files or use any other program except for the HAP software to copy files to your HAP-S1

 

The best way to do this is to manually create different folders in Windows, copy whatever music you want to these folders. After, you then add the folders into the HAP software.

 

The software then copies the contents of those folders you've created into the internal hard drive of the Sony HAP-S1.

 

Hope this helps

post #132 of 389
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Originally Posted by beemarman View Post
 

 

 

You can't manually copy files or use any other program except for the HAP software to copy files to your HAP-S1

 

The best way to do this is to manually create different folders in Windows, copy whatever music you want to these folders. After, you then add the folders into the HAP software.

 

The software then copies the contents of those folders you've created into the internal hard drive of the Sony HAP-S1.

 

Hope this helps

 

 

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Originally Posted by mannp View Post
 

 

Basically yes; it does the same thing but without having to have the laptop on.

 

It effectively becomes the server and player all in one and you control it via the iPad or android tablet app.

 

I don't believe you have to put your files in folders.

 

If the files have names, tags and covers when you play in jriver then the sony will sort them out and store them in its own directories on its hard drive.

 

Sounds like you need to find where your files are in jriver, maybe in the music folder (sorry I use mac, so not sure about windows) and then point the song transfer app at them.

 

It says to connect the unit via wired network connection for the first transfer, as it is expected to take a while.

Thanks guys, for all your help. Apologies, I'm overtired, and the more tired I am, the worse my cognitive function. I should leave it tonight....but I know I won't !

I thought I'd read somewhere, that you could use media players like JRiver ? I've just gone into "computer" / "music" and was trying to figure out how to put into folders ? ( I think any "converted" files appear to be there, because Windows Media can't play them. )

Since last post, I have found out how to delete files from the player it's self. I also read on the help guide how to delete from HAP softwear, although again, that seemed very confusing !!

( I'll type into Google about how to add / create folders. ) If it were just a question of transferring flac 44.1, I'd just let the player run, but I just wanted to use this player to store / play my converted DSD files, if that is possible ??

Tomorrow's another day.....I haven't even commented on the music samples on the player, but i'll leave that for another day....thanks again, for your help.

post #133 of 389
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Originally Posted by Rob49 View Post
 

 

 

Thanks guys, for all your help. Apologies, I'm overtired, and the more tired I am, the worse my cognitive function. I should leave it tonight....but I know I won't !

I thought I'd read somewhere, that you could use media players like JRiver ? I've just gone into "computer" / "music" and was trying to figure out how to put into folders ? ( I think any "converted" files appear to be there, because Windows Media can't play them. )

Since last post, I have found out how to delete files from the player it's self. I also read on the help guide how to delete from HAP softwear, although again, that seemed very confusing !!

( I'll type into Google about how to add / create folders. ) If it were just a question of transferring flac 44.1, I'd just let the player run, but I just wanted to use this player to store / play my converted DSD files, if that is possible ??

Tomorrow's another day.....I haven't even commented on the music samples on the player, but i'll leave that for another day....thanks again, for your help.

 

Sounds like you should plug your headphones in and listen to the music samples on the player, have a beer :beerchug:and listen to the music; then tackle the tech bit tomorrow :D 

post #134 of 389
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Originally Posted by mannp View Post
 

 

Sounds like you should plug your headphones in and listen to the music samples on the player, have a beer :beerchug:and listen to the music; then tackle the tech bit tomorrow :D 

YES !!! :bigsmile_face: ( Mind you, I've listened to the 13 songs, for the last 4hrs !.....and two or three of them, are on my Walkman......so I really need to sort out this transfer business !! :bigsmile_face: )

post #135 of 389

Sorry, the above issue thread is getting long, so I haven't read every post, but here's a bit of my experience.

 

I have the HAP-1ZES which I believe is very close functionally, so I want to point out that the software is entirely optional, mostly to automagically transfer new additions. Once I realized that, I have never used it since.

 

The Sony HAP will (eventually) mount as a standard network drive (at least in OS X), and if you have your music organized on your existing HD in a halfway reasonable fashion (regardless of player software), you can then simply drag & drop folders, subfolders and/or files over on the HAP network drive, maybe starting with your favourites rather than everything at once. This transfer is the first part, then once the files are transferred, the HAP will analyze the files on the internal HD and organize & add them to the internal database.

 

Depending on the amount (both in size & # of files) the whole process can take a loooooooooong time.I have tried & verified every possible connection and the interfaces do not come remotely close to their theoretical speeds, even with an internal SSD mod. I have a long-ish post planned for the whole HAP experience but am too busy these days. Just want to clarify that despite the above shortcomings, once everything is settled in, the experience and SQ are really great (and I don't say this lightly if you read some of my other posts)

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