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In addition to the FiiO X5 also keep an eye out for the upcoming iBasso DX90, which is set to release on april 7th (if there are no more delays). The impressions from jamato on the dx90's sound seem very promising so far.

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Any comparisons between the NT6 Pro and the newest batch of top of the line CIEMS such as Roxanne, K10, Mentor, LS10, Vision Ear/Rhine, etc?

Thanks.
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I just auditioned both the NT 6 and the NT 6 Pro, and I must say that they are definitely deserving of their hype. My impressions here.


Edited by jelt2359 - 1/4/15 at 7:10am
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I just auditioned both the NT 6 and the NT 6 Pro, and I must say that they are definitely deserving of their hype. My impressions here.

Very nice! Thanks for the impressions.  I don't find them hyped nearly as much as some of the others here.  I agree with part about them being a bit forgiving of the harsher recordings.  If you have a great source with it, detailing does scale up well, it's transparency is apparent. It's seems transparent because of it's ability to output details well, but does it without being harsh. I find the better recordings to sound great, but at the same time modern popular music recordings doesn't sound so harsh, and sound very clear and detailed.  I will be comparing with the UERM which is known to be a bit brutal with bad recordings.  I will find out.   


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Very nice! Thanks for the impressions.  I don't find them hyped nearly as much as some of the others here.  I agree with part about them being a bit forgiving of the harsher recordings.  If you have a great source with it, detailing does scale up well, it's transparency is apparent. It's seems transparent because of it's ability to output details well, but does it without being harsh. I find the better recordings to sound great, but at the same time modern popular music recordings doesn't sound so harsh, and sound very clear and detailed.  I will be comparing with the UERM which is known to be a bit brutal with bad recordings.  I will find out.   

I am really keen to hear the UERM, actually. That's the one IEM that I've missed, and I read so much about it. Ah well, if another massdrop sale comes around... Would love to hear your impressions.

 

PS, I see you have the 6, not the 6-Pro. That was also my preference :)

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I am really keen to hear the UERM, actually. That's the one IEM that I've missed, and I read so much about it. Ah well, if another massdrop sale comes around... Would love to hear your impressions.

 

PS, I see you have the 6, not the 6-Pro. That was also my preference :)

I know you prefer the HE-6 also, and I find the NT-6 to be similar in the way it handles lesser recordings in a tolerable manner compared to headphones such as the HD800 which find to be too limited in the music genres I can listen to it with.  I prefer headphones that can output great details and clarity without limiting the genres of music I can tolerate it with.

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I know you prefer the HE-6 also, and I find the NT-6 to be similar in the way it handles lesser recordings in a tolerable manner compared to headphones such as the HD800 which find to be too limited in the music genres I can listen to it with.  I prefer headphones that can output great details and clarity without limiting the genres of music I can tolerate it with.

Well said! To find a smoooooth sounding IEM that still manages to be revealing and punch with authority? That's my holy grail :)

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Well said! To find a smoooooth sounding IEM that still manages to be revealing and punch with authority? That's my holy grail :)

Yes, that's one way to put it, but I refrain from using the word smooth as I've heard iems with smoothed out treble.  Not the same as what you are meaning of course, but by smoothed out, details are smoothed out.  Also, I find clarity to be apparent when there is good separation as you say.  Like overly bass emphasized could cover up the mids to upper mids and clarity can be lost in this way.  Then there are that sounds a bit organic by dropping the sibilant frequencies like the Audeze and HD650 headphones, and those can be smooth sounding, although some that are more accustomed to brighter sounding cans would immediately think it sounds veiled. LCD2 was least offending because of the dip on the FR, but at the same time, the consequence was distant vocals compared to the HE-6 I had which was forward. I do prefer a forward vocals, so this could be inline was what is said of the mids of the NT-6 being forward, but this could be the case since many iems usually have a u or v shape where mids sounds laid back. 

 

Another way people refer to smooth is the FR not heaving peaks in the treble.  Usually it's caused by resonance, ear canal length etc..  But, there are all sorts of ways to describe what we hear.

 

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Yes, that's one way to put it, but I refrain from using the word smooth as I've heard iems with smoothed out treble.  Not the same as what you are meaning of course, but by smoothed out, details are smoothed out.  Also, I find clarity to be apparent when there is good separation as you say.  Like overly bass emphasized could cover up the mids to upper mids and clarity can be lost in this way.  Then there are that sounds a bit organic by dropping the sibilant frequencies like the Audeze and HD650 headphones, and those can be smooth sounding, although some that are more accustomed to brighter sounding cans would immediately think it sounds veiled. LCD2 was least offending because of the dip on the FR, but at the same time, the consequence was distant vocals compared to the HE-6 I had which was forward. I do prefer a forward vocals, so this could be inline was what is said of the mids of the NT-6 being forward, but this could be the case since many iems usually have a u or v shape where mids sounds laid back. 

 

Another way people refer to smooth is the FR not heaving peaks in the treble.  Usually it's caused by resonance, ear canal length etc..  But, there are all sorts of ways to describe what we hear.

 

:beerchug: 

I'm glad you understand what I mean by smooth. That's why I call it my "holy grail"- not easy to achieve at all. Smooth but revealing of details (definitely no smoothing out); and smooth yet authoritative (no peaks, yet energetic).

 

I agree also with this- for me, good separation tends to help make clarity more apparent (although they are different things; and I think that there are also other factors that contribute to clarity). I don't tend to link clarity with brightness- not necessarily. In the same vein, when there is a lot of bass I think of that as a sound signature choice. I've heard bassy phones that still sound very clear- but of course, that's not always the case.

 

On a side note, I actually find it very surprising that so many IEMs have a v shape, and that that's considered fun. Most pop is vocal-dominated, and I would have expected the mids to be way more prominent.

 

:beerchug: 


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I just auditioned both the NT 6 and the NT 6 Pro, and I must say that they are definitely deserving of their hype. My impressions here.

I would be very interested in your direct comparisons between the Hidition and the Legion R. My gut tells me that the 5-way design of the pro as well as the SE5 are what put them on top in terms of SQ per AJ's and Tupac's charts and my ears. The legion is the only one that has a wider crossover network.

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I would be very interested in your direct comparisons between the Hidition and the Legion R. My gut tells me that the 5-way design of the pro as well as the SE5 are what put them on top in terms of SQ per AJ's and Tupac's charts and my ears. The legion is the only one that has a wider crossover network.

I would have to leave this one to Sirenia, unfortunately. I have ordered a couple of IEMs, and will be working on a full, more substantial, flagship IEM comparison and review. At this point the Hidition is not part of it. At least some of the issue is that I can't decide which one to go for. I actually preferred the NT 6- but as you said, the NT 6-Pro is actually more technically interesting.

 

Maybe in the next round of reviews...

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I would be very interested in your direct comparisons between the Hidition and the Legion R. My gut tells me that the 5-way design of the pro as well as the SE5 are what put them on top in terms of SQ per AJ's and Tupac's charts and my ears. The legion is the only one that has a wider crossover network.
I would have to leave this one to Sirenia, unfortunately. I have ordered a couple of IEMs, and will be working on a full, more substantial, flagship IEM comparison and review. At this point the Hidition is not part of it. At least some of the issue is that I can't decide which one to go for. I actually preferred the NT 6- but as you said, the NT 6-Pro is actually more technically interesting.

Maybe in the next round of reviews...

I have had the ability to audition several flagships for over a week in tours I arranged, currently auditioning the h8p. I will say that the flagships unfold over time to reveal more of their capabilities and the nt6pro is one that takes a lot of time to get your mind around. I will also say that my customs have a distinct advantage over the universal demos - the custom nt6pro seal shows its full capabilities. I've only been initially wowed by very colored CIEMs like the Roxanne. The rest required time to appreciate.
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I have had the ability to audition several flagships for over a week in tours I arranged, currently auditioning the h8p. I will say that the flagships unfold over time to reveal more of their capabilities and the nt6pro is one that takes a lot of time to get your mind around. I will also say that my customs have a distinct advantage over the universal demos - the custom nt6pro seal shows its full capabilities. I've only been initially wowed by very colored CIEMs like the Roxanne. The rest required time to appreciate.

After comparing so many IEMs, I've actually become much more quickly wowed, if that makes sense. Technical differences have now become much easier to discern. I ended up ordering the H8P extremely quickly, for example. As for the NT6 and NT6 Pro, I think they're both at the absolute top as well. I prefer the NT6 simply as a matter of personal signature taste, but I could definitely live with either :)

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I have had the ability to audition several flagships for over a week in tours I arranged, currently auditioning the h8p. I will say that the flagships unfold over time to reveal more of their capabilities and the nt6pro is one that takes a lot of time to get your mind around. I will also say that my customs have a distinct advantage over the universal demos - the custom nt6pro seal shows its full capabilities. I've only been initially wowed by very colored CIEMs like the Roxanne. The rest required time to appreciate.

After comparing so many IEMs, I've actually become much more quickly wowed, if that makes sense. Technical differences have now become much easier to discern. I ended up ordering the H8P extremely quickly, for example. As for the NT6 and NT6 Pro, I think they're both at the absolute top as well. I prefer the NT6 simply as a matter of personal signature taste, but I could definitely live with either :)

I have not heard the NT6 to compare to the pro, but am guessing that the non-pro would be closer in signature to the H8P than the Pro which is very different. Contrary to some of the bass monster rumors that I have heard about the H8P, I find the bass very accurate, but somewhat muted focusing more on the mids and upper registers. That is not to say that the H8P is missing its bass, but compared to the Pro it sounds muted. What is outstanding about the pro is its ability to shut off the bass completely when it is not called for eliminating any warmth, but hit harder than any other that I have heard while retaining absolute clarity and accuracy. The UE18, the V8, and the Roxanne may be as bassy as the pro, but in a bloated sloppy way in comparison. It would kill me to give up my bass capabilities to just get the NT6 based on calls for better balance. I find the pro to be very balanced already where even hitting its hardest, the extra crossover keeps the bass from covering up the mids or upper registers.

 

The H8P is now taking ear time from the NT6pro due to its unique signature that allows me to hear my music library differently - rediscovering songs and all the other clichés. The focus on the H8P seems to be the voices and guitar which I listen to a lot with a very wet, open, euphoric, and 3D SQ that I am really digging. I tell you this because I think the Pro would add more variety then the non-pro given your ownership of the H8P. I also think that the Pro will scale higher than both having heard it with the new Shiit YGG/RAG stack.

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Contrary to some of the bass monster rumors that I have heard about the H8P, I find the bass very accurate, but somewhat muted focusing more on the mids and upper registers. That is not to say that the H8P is missing its bass, but compared to the Pro it sounds muted. What is outstanding about the pro is its ability to shut off the bass completely when it is not called for eliminating any warmth, but hit harder than any other that I have heard while retaining absolute clarity and accuracy. The UE18, the V8, and the Roxanne may be as bassy as the pro, but in a bloated sloppy way in comparison. It would kill me to give up my bass capabilities to just get the NT6 based on calls for better balance. I find the pro to be very balanced already where even hitting its hardest, the extra crossover keeps the bass from covering up the mids or upper registers.

 

The focus on the H8P seems to be the voices and guitar which I listen to a lot with a very wet, open, euphoric, and 3D SQ that I am really digging. 

I agree with all these impressions- I cannot imagine why anyone would call the H8P bass monsters!! Spot on also about the NT 6 Pro bass- a good comparison may be the JH13.

 

Also agree with the open, euphoric, and 3D SQ of the H8P.

 

Seems like we hear very similarly. I will post back on the H8P vs the Legend R when both are in hand- which would hopefully be soon :)

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