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post #136 of 567
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Hmm, I just cannot do this. I really would like to hear this magical DSD stuff.

 

Unless you can get or have SACD rips, it is pretty much moot.

post #137 of 567

can i connect this to a sony sacd transport or is it only for rips?

post #138 of 567
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Unless you can get or have SACD rips, it is pretty much moot.

I thought Sony will provide them along with its high-resolution productline.
post #139 of 567

Actually DSD-audio is not that rare, people who have done SACD rips do have a head start. But nowadays a lot of music is available for download as well. Here are a few sites for example:

 

http://store.acousticsounds.com/superhirez

http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html

http://bluecoastrecords.com/

post #140 of 567
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Actually DSD-audio is not that rare, people who have done SACD rips do have a head start. But nowadays a lot of music is available for download as well. Here are a few sites for example:

http://store.acousticsounds.com/superhirez
http://www.2l.no/hires/index.html
http://bluecoastrecords.com/

Thanks for the links.

Also, I do not need all my tracks to be high quality. Lil Wayne is ok for me in 320k, but for Bill Evans I would like to have a good mastering from some albums. I am curious, what DSD can offer. I never had a SACD player...
post #141 of 567

The problem with DSD is the current selection is very limited (as listed above), so most people look for SACD rips.  However, if the rumor is true, then we could see a DSD push from Sony later with loads (relatively speaking) of new contents.

post #142 of 567
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The problem with DSD is the current selection is very limited (as listed above), so most people look for SACD rips.  However, if the rumor is true, then we could see a DSD push from Sony later with loads (relatively speaking) of new contents.

 

This is exactly what you will see. 

post #143 of 567
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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post
 

The problem with DSD is the current selection is very limited (as listed above), so most people look for SACD rips.  However, if the rumor is true, then we could see a DSD push from Sony later with loads (relatively speaking) of new contents.

 

 

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This is exactly what you will see. 

 

This is Sony changing the game again for no good technical reason to increase profits based on control of their large music holdings. Hi def PCM is not worse (I personally prefer it) and is already here.

 

I hate this sort of crowbar marketing. Beta, elcassette, minidisc, Beta, original CDs being perfect sound forever but apparently not anymore. It just hype.

post #144 of 567
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This is Sony changing the game again for no good technical reason to increase profits based on control of their large music holdings. Hi def PCM is not worse (I personally prefer it) and is already here.

 

I hate this sort of crowbar marketing. Beta, elcassette, minidisc, Beta, original CDs being perfect sound forever but apparently not anymore. It just hype.

 

I fail to see the downside, apart from needing a new DAC.  At least someone with pockets is pushing hi-res music.  It could be worse.  

post #145 of 567
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This is Sony changing the game again for no good technical reason to increase profits based on control of their large music holdings. Hi def PCM is not worse (I personally prefer it) and is already here.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post
 

 

I fail to see the downside, apart from needing a new DAC.  At least someone with pockets is pushing hi-res music.  It could be worse.  

 

 

I somewhat agree with both standpoints! :beerchug: 

post #146 of 567
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This is Sony changing the game again for no good technical reason to increase profits based on control of their large music holdings. Hi def PCM is not worse (I personally prefer it) and is already here.

I hate this sort of crowbar marketing. Beta, elcassette, minidisc, Beta, original CDs being perfect sound forever but apparently not anymore. It just hype.

There is some trueth in your words, but it is not like we have not the choice. With an iPod one can send any digital data to the PHA-2. We are not forced. You cannot put a minidisc into a discman, but we can put files of any bitrate on the newest Sony Walkmen.

Additionally Sony competitors are forced to move forward also. Maybe we can expect somwthing from Apple...
post #147 of 567
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Additionally Sony competitors are forced to move forward also. Maybe we can expect something from Apple...

 

If Jobs was still alive (not that I am a 'fan' of him, mind you), then it would be reasonable to anticipate Apple innovating a bit with a genuinely new iPod Touch device that takes Hi-Rez audiophile needs seriously with some proper audiophile grade components, but as it is, Apple just seems to be run by unimaginative bean-counters since his passing.

 

For example, I'm sure you are familiar with the following:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/593712/audiophile-successor-to-ipod-neil-young-and-steve-jobs-had-plans

 

As it is, Apple just re-sell other labels' music, and whilst they've been undeniably successful in developing their iDevice + iTunes ecosystem, I don't see them being particularly motivated to push Hi-Rez in terms of either hardware or software. Red book ALAC seems to be as far as they're willing to go, since they don't appear to respect their customers as having the intelligence to appreciate Hi-Rez.

 

Consequently, I don't foresee Apple joining the Hi-Rez bandwagon until 3 to 5 years from now, though I would honestly be quite happy to be proven wrong.

 

Sony, on the other hand, have a massive back catalogue of their own-label music to harvest profits from, by re-releasing it at Hi-Rez. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I really don't think Sony would've been motivated to embrace Hi-Rez this soon if they did not have a huge music catalogue to profit from re-releasing at Hi-Rez. The DSD format is a moot point. It's just a codec. The real point here is producing the hardware to convince customers to embrace Hi-Rez purchasing re-issues of their back catalogue.

 

 

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Edited by Mython - 10/3/13 at 9:29am
post #148 of 567
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Originally Posted by Mython View Post
 

 

If Jobs was still alive (not that I am a 'fan' of him, mind you), then it would be reasonable to anticipate Apple innovating a bit with a genuinely new iPod Touch device that takes Hi-Rez audiophile needs seriously with some proper audiophile grade components, but as it is, Apple just seems to be run by unimaginative bean-counters since his passing.

 

For example, I'm sure you are familiar with the following:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/593712/audiophile-successor-to-ipod-neil-young-and-steve-jobs-had-plans

 

As it is, Apple just re-sell other labels' music, and whilst they've been undeniably successful in developing their iDevice + iTunes ecosystem, I don't see them being particularly motivated to push Hi-Rez in terms of either hardware or software. Red book ALAC seems to be as far as they're willing to go, since they don't appear to respect their customers as having the intelligence to appreciate Hi-Rez.

 

Consequently, I don't foresee Apple joining the Hi-Rez bandwagon until 3 to 5 years from now, though I would honestly be quite happy to be proven wrong.

 

Sony, on the other hand, have a massive back catalogue of their own-label music to harvest profits from, by re-releasing it at Hi-Rez. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I really don't think Sony would've been motivated to embrace Hi-Rez this soon if they did not have a huge music catalogue to profit from re-releasing at Hi-Rez. The DSD format is a moot point. It's just a codec. The real point here is producing the hardware to convince customers to embrace Hi-Rez purchasing re-issues of their back catalogue.

 

 

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Recently, I have bought an 64GB iPod again, actually for the PHA-1, however now for the PHA-2. The Touch 4G sounds crappy.

 

You are probably right about Apple plans, but Sony sometimes does game-changing stuff that could force Apple to act. Sony has created many media "containers" till now...

 

Actually Apple was just an example, there are other manufacturers who could join Sony.

post #149 of 567

I am actually quite supprised that SanDisk hasn't made a move yet.  Consider how popular their Sansa Clip line among the Head-Fi'ers, they will make a killing releasing products with a little dress up.

post #150 of 567
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Originally Posted by DrSheep View Post
 

I am actually quite supprised that SanDisk hasn't made a move yet.  Consider how popular their Sansa Clip line among the Head-Fi'ers, they will make a killing releasing products with a little dress up.

 

That indeed would be awesome.

 

Once they had a product announcement, where I thought it would be a new DAP. Well, it was just the 64 gb micro SD card.

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