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post #1246 of 1469

thanks for the input guys but before i really make my mind is the f880 110% better than the sansa clip+? in terms of sq cuz i listen to mostly Rock,post harcore, post rock, vocaloid and some classics and most of them are in mp3 format 320kbs.

is the e11 really even needed? i use jvc fxd80-z and hd25-II.


Edited by Momo-chan - 6/17/14 at 6:54am
post #1247 of 1469
That's if you want a slightly cleaner sound out of the LOD or more power. I used to have my F887 paired with the E12, but sold it since I never really used it as of late.
post #1248 of 1469
That 'slightly' must mean its not worth the extra weight.
post #1249 of 1469
Worth it only if you are in a quiet environment, or have some real nice isolating cans. I usually can't fully critique what I listen to on the go, so... take it for what it's worth.
post #1250 of 1469
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Originally Posted by Momo-chan View Post
 

thanks for the input guys but before i really make my mind is the f880 110% better than the sansa clip+? in terms of sq cuz i listen to mostly Rock,post harcore, post rock, vocaloid and some classics and most of them are in mp3 format 320kbs.

is the e11 really even needed? i use jvc fxd80-z and hd25-II.


the very obvious difference you'll get is how much width you'll have on the sony. a clip sounds ok (I think it sounds good actually) but it has a very narrow soundstage. the sony on the other hand, opens the sides. I think for most of us it's an obvious improvement, but for a few number of people it might be puzzling. getting the better part of headphone sound means going away from how music is presented on speakers(60degree sources vs 180degree headphone). the stereo separation on the clip is bad enough that you don't really notice that difference. on the sony it's mighty obvious.

but even for that "possible trouble" sony has a solution(a battery hungry solution), the studio surround option that gives a very convincing kind of crossfeed, but better, and sacrifices a small part of the huge width to give more depth.

 

about the amp, I guess it will depend on what you're looking for and how it goes with your headphones. the amp part is clearly the last weak spot for sony so the last improvements would come from an external amp plugged on the LO. but you might not need it and as said above it's a bother to carry one most of the time for an improvement that might not be needed on the go.

post #1251 of 1469
RE battery. Sony definitely need to sort out the 'device idle'. I only just got my player yesterday but it lost power quite quick when downloading my Spotify playlist. And device idle was/is the biggest battery drainer.

In android devices this idle should be around 5%. Seems it's a software thing so hopefully they fix it soon.
post #1252 of 1469

i am seriously wondering why people are not getting fiio x5??

its better in sound department and has a good respectable software too according to reviews.

 

imho walkman is way too overpriced,,due to puny battery and weak processor it cannot be effectively used as an android device anyways so whats the point of getting it when better options are available at lesser price points?

post #1253 of 1469
Meh...
post #1254 of 1469
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i am seriously wondering why people are not getting fiio x5??

its better in sound department and has a good respectable software too according to reviews.

 

imho walkman is way too overpriced,,due to puny battery and weak processor it cannot be effectively used as an android device anyways so whats the point of getting it when better options are available at lesser price points?


I got a PHA-2 and hardly I'm going to use it with the fiio x5, this weak processor handles very well tasks, and battery life is great if you know what are you doing.

post #1255 of 1469

i did look into the x5 but the design and ui didnt appeal much to me.

post #1256 of 1469
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I got a PHA-2 and hardly I'm going to use it with the fiio x5, this weak processor handles very well tasks, and battery life is great if you know what are you doing.


battery is pretty pathetic if u start any android apps or use internet which sort of totally negates the use of android on this device.

and i was mainly speaking on the cost/performance ratio of this walkman which i am afraid is too high considering the competition,,,no wonder sony is losing ground to even small companies like fiio.

post #1257 of 1469
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battery is pretty pathetic if u start any android apps or use internet which sort of totally negates the use of android on this device.

and i was mainly speaking on the cost/performance ratio of this walkman which i am afraid is too high considering the competition,,,no wonder sony is losing ground to even small companies like fiio.

 

Again, fiiox5 doesn't even has android, battery is like it is if you actually read why it consumes quite a bit (the smaster takes quite a bit of juice) and the price isn't that bad, albeit can be improved. If I really wanted to use this device as other thing than music playing, I always have my xperia ultra, which adds really a lot of real screen state, vastly superior. and for your information this dap can last to me 2 weeks on idle, and using internet can last me around a day (using it sparingly) again, this small device does not replace a full fledged phone, it is just a great DAP that happens to do other things.

post #1258 of 1469
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Again, fiiox5 doesn't even has android, battery is like it is if you actually read why it consumes quite a bit (the smaster takes quite a bit of juice) and the price isn't that bad, albeit can be improved. If I really wanted to use this device as other thing than music playing, I always have my xperia ultra, which adds really a lot of real screen state, vastly superior. and for your information this dap can last to me 2 weeks on idle, and using internet can last me around a day (using it sparingly) again, this small device does not replace a full fledged phone, it is just a great DAP that happens to do other things.


ur points are valid but u sacrifice the sound quality when u leave x5 and buy this walkman!!

and my cost/performance was based solely on the sound quality and in that walkman just cannot compete with x5..................and thats primarily why u get a dedicated player otherwise i think an ipod is far superior as an all round device.

post #1259 of 1469
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Originally Posted by sardar17 View Post
 


ur points are valid but u sacrifice the sound quality when u leave x5 and buy this walkman!!

and my cost/performance was based solely on the sound quality and in that walkman just cannot compete with x5..................and thats primarily why u get a dedicated player otherwise i think an ipod is far superior as an all round device.

I beg to differ, the SQ of this walkman is quite good, paired with good IEMs, and again, I use my PHA-2 with it, which improves it more. The Ipods can also be plugged to the PHA-2 but as audio players I don't like their SQ. To me it sounds that there is a biass towards the Fiio X5 from your side, if you don't like the walkman, don't buy it nor complain here about how the X5 is vastly superior, it simply speaks nothing about the walkman.

post #1260 of 1469
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Originally Posted by Vect View Post
 

I beg to differ, the SQ of this walkman is quite good, paired with good IEMs, and again, I use my PHA-2 with it, which improves it more. The Ipods can also be plugged to the PHA-2 but as audio players I don't like their SQ. To me it sounds that there is a biass towards the Fiio X5 from your side, if you don't like the walkman, don't buy it nor complain here about how the X5 is vastly superior, it simply speaks nothing about the walkman.


nope.....there is no bias from my side.

and sorry for provoking u,,,to each his own i guess.

 

good luck on ur combo

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