Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors › Sony XBA-H1 and XBA-H3 Hybrid Dynamic and BA IEM
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Sony XBA-H1 and XBA-H3 Hybrid Dynamic and BA IEM - Page 7

post #91 of 2677

Black Friday hahahah

post #92 of 2677

mmm, black Friday for the sony hybrids... if they're discount ted enough, I could snatch one up...

post #93 of 2677
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swimsonny View Post

Considering they use a dynamic driver that would likely be vented and they have mechanical crossovers, i dont see a lot of companies reshelling it to be honest.

How exactly does a mechanical crossover work?



Can someone please point me to where people are reading that the guy behind the EX1000 was heading this up?

Thanks
Edited by vwinter - 9/6/13 at 11:08pm
post #94 of 2677
Quote:
Originally Posted by vwinter View Post


How exactly does a mechanical crossover work?

 

Instead of using various electronics to eliminate the natural frequencies of each driver they instead use the housing and drives themselves without censoring their natural frequency responses. That is what I gathered from it. 

post #95 of 2677
 
Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post
 

Instead of using various electronics to eliminate the natural frequencies of each driver they instead use the housing and drives themselves without censoring their natural frequency responses. That is what I gathered from it.

Exactly, much better approach as well. The BA-electronic crossover approach isn't great IMO.  

 

I don't get why people think custom-shell=better, specially in a dynamic, it will be worse actually, it's like throwing away all the competent work the engineer did. 

post #96 of 2677
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inks View Post
 

Exactly, much better approach as well. The BA-electronic crossover approach isn't great IMO.  

 

I don't get why people think custom-shell=better, specially in a dynamic, it will be worse actually, it's like throwing away all the competent work the engineer did. 

 

I have a very positive experience with EX-1000, my only issue with is the highs, in terms of bass quality and fit and comfort it is he best I have in my current gears. 

If they can find a way to maintain the EX-1000 current quality, perhaps make the bass to go deeper and fix the highs at the current selling price it should make a lot of high end custom makers who make CIEM for music enthusiastic really nervous. 

 

I hope the news about EX-1000 designer been incharge of this project is true and whomever was incharge of tuning XBA-4 is far way from this project. 

 

All I know I am excited as only sony can make enough of it at high volume without ridiculously prices that was currently see in the high end hybrid market (eg the K3003).

 

AKG should be really nervous right about now. 

 

post #97 of 2677
Quote:
Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post

I have a very positive experience with EX-1000, my only issue with is the highs, in terms of bass quality and fit and comfort it is he best I have in my current gears. 

If they can find a way to maintain the EX-1000 current quality, perhaps make the bass to go deeper and fix the highs at the current selling price it should make a lot of high end custom makers who make CIEM for music enthusiastic really nervous. 

 

I hope the news about EX-1000 designer been incharge of this project is true and whomever was incharge of tuning XBA-4 is far way from this project. 

 

All I know I am excited as only sony can make enough of it at high volume without ridiculously prices that was currently see in the high end hybrid market (eg the K3003).

 

AKG should be really nervous right about now. 

This set-up seems to exactly fix what you mention, the highs and midhighs. Yup, same designer as EX1000, he is the guy who established the design of the off-axis Sony dynamics. K3003 seems more like a statement product by AKG, basically saying "look we can engineer a great sounding product using a difficult design, we deserve more prestige in the IEM realm". The price just speaks to that, definitely overpriced but it's really one of the best IEMs there is, but if there is one company that can surpass it or be on par using the same hybrid-design, it's Sony. All these smaller companies doing hybrid designs just don't have the means and expertise like Sony or AKG,which is why most hybrids are actually very poor IME. 


Edited by Inks - 9/7/13 at 2:14am
post #98 of 2677
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inks View Post
 

This set-up seems to exactly fix what you mention, the highs and midhighs. Yup, same designer as EX1000, he is the guy who established the design of the off-axis Sony dynamics. K3003 seems more like a statement product by AKG, basically saying "look we can engineer a great sounding product using a difficult design, we deserve more prestige in the IEM realm". The price just speaks to that, definitely overpriced but it's really one of the best IEMs there is, but if there is one company that can surpass it or be on par using the same hybrid-design, it's Sony. All these smaller companies doing hybrid designs just don't have the means and expertise like Sony or AKG,which is why most hybrids are actually very poor IME. 

 

I know Rin dislikes of axis designed that is implemented on EX-1000 I for one cant wait to read Rin's review on this.

 

Yes surely K3003 is indeed a statement product that possibly could be mass produced but it was not to maintain the luxurious appeal for the people who purchase it.

post #99 of 2677
Quote:
Originally Posted by audionewbi View Post
 

 

I know Rin dislikes of axis designed that is implemented on EX-1000 I for one cant wait to read Rin's review on this.

 

Yes surely K3003 is indeed a statement product that possibly could be mass produced but it was not to maintain the luxurious appeal for the people who purchase it.

Rin loves the EX1000 actually. 

post #100 of 2677
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inks View Post
 

Rin loves the EX1000 actually. 

 

The iem yes but he feels that the off axis design creates the treble spikes which we all dislike. That is what I read in his blog. 

post #101 of 2677
It's a fact that it does (Sonove proved it a while ago) not a matter of opinion. Its an inevitable resonance when you tilt the driver so, this seems like a good fix for that.
Edited by Inks - 9/7/13 at 3:42am
post #102 of 2677

yeah but that tube thingy that is supposed to cut down higher frequencies should help with the resonance, right?

post #103 of 2677
Quote:
Originally Posted by nihontoman View Post

yeah but that tube thingy that is supposed to cut down higher frequencies should help with the resonance, right?

No that tube is for bass response, what's going to get rid of the harshness is that the off-axis resonance will no longer come into play because the BAs are handling those problematic regions
post #104 of 2677
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inks View Post


No that tube is for bass response, what's going to get rid of the harshness is that the off-axis resonance will no longer come into play because the BAs are handling those problematic regions

 

I thought the tube was a part of the crossover... anyways, it will be handled and judging from the impressions we have, resonance is not a problem...

post #105 of 2677
Actually, it cuts off the highs of the dynamic driver all together and just gets out the bass response, thus mechanical crossover.Doesn't cut the highs of the iem itself, which is handled by the BAs
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors › Sony XBA-H1 and XBA-H3 Hybrid Dynamic and BA IEM