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I mean surely the H1s will be better than my Carbo Basso? I know the Carbo Basso's are incredibly good for the price, but it shouldn't even be a contest. On the subject, just in case I do keep the H1s and want some wider bore tips, which ones are the best to order? +1 for UK availability.


Edited by Mackem - 10/22/13 at 5:24pm
post #707 of 2645
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Originally Posted by dweaver View Post

Had a quick walk and listen with my H1 using stock tips and then some wide mouth tips. Stock = dark/warm sound that is very luscious and smooth. Wide mouth tips the treble and upper mids open up. Both tips have a wonderfully open sound with a very nice sound stage and instrument placement. Isolation is better than the EX/MDR series and wind noise is less while the microphonics are less than the XBA series.


Great to hear! Last I read a review of yours I ended up with a new set of SRH1440s. Luscious, smooth, and warm sounds like a winner for me. How's the bass against the rest of the frequency

post #708 of 2645
Kinda off topic but I have been looking at the Sony MDR1R's as they look really cool but here is the issue:

I always thought that Headphones offered better sound and probably better bass and soundstage because of their size but from I am hearing that is not the case and iems are in many cases better.

So is it mostly preferance? If the sound is not going to be better than my iems then why bother?
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oK sitting Walmart as I type this using the H1. Isolation is not as good as my QC20 but it is good enough to block out most noise. I do think my QC20 will still end up being my transit IEM of choice.

I would say these have great bass that is on the softer (not boomier) side as compared to the punchier harder bass of the XBA3. The mids are a nice blend between the XBA and the EX/MDR series and the treble is not as metallic as the XBA3 and nicely in between the MDR7550 and the EX1000 in regards to brightness. I am noticing a bit of grain though somewhere in the upper mids/lower treble. I also a hearing static on my Nokia 920 which is not something I have an issue with. I am listening to a bunch of old classical pieces that may actually be poorly recorded so some of the static might be from them I will post results on this going forward.

btw I also recieved a pair of MA900's today for about the same price as these. For those wondering about whether a full size open headphone is worth getting over an IEM. The MA900 is excellent entry into full size headphones. I own several full size cans and the MA900 competes very well with what I own while offering a nice warm alternative to my other headphones.
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Thanks dweaver!
post #711 of 2645
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oK sitting Walmart as I type this using the H1. Isolation is not as good as my QC20 but it is good enough to block out most noise. I do think my QC20 will still end up being my transit IEM of choice.

I would say these have great bass that is on the softer (not boomier) side as compared to the punchier harder bass of the XBA3. The mids are a nice blend between the XBA and the EX/MDR series and the treble is not as metallic as the XBA3 and nicely in between the MDR7550 and the EX1000 in regards to brightness. I am noticing a bit of grain though somewhere in the upper mids/lower treble. I also a hearing static on my Nokia 920 which is not something I have an issue with. I am listening to a bunch of old classical pieces that may actually be poorly recorded so some of the static might be from them I will post results on this going forward.

btw I also recieved a pair of MA900's today for about the same price as these. For those wondering about whether a full size open headphone is worth getting over an IEM. The MA900 is excellent entry into full size headphones. I own several full size cans and the MA900 competes very well with what I own while offering a nice warm alternative to my other headphones.

 

 

Thanks for this. Looking forward to more updates.

 

About the bass, how far down do they extend?

 

Also, how far out do they protrude from the ear? I have an XBA-4iP as reference.

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I will let kevms89 and other who own both at the same time give impression about the XBA3 and the H1 as they can more accurately determine this as I am going by memory for the XBA3. But from memory I think the XBA3 may go a bit deeper.

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Well these sound even better with an amp. The bass gains and the graininess decreases. BTW using stock tips I hear no hiss but hear it with wide mouth tips. So it's real and is probably an impedance thing as I hear it with my desktop amp as well as my phone. I have a feeling I will use the hybrid tips as I kind of like the warmer sound and they are more comfortable for me plus no hiss.
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Ok some very quick impressions after some casual listening and comparing tracks to my xba3.

In short I am hard pressed to tell the differences between them, they are extremely similar, at times I feel like the H1 may have a richer/fuller sound but then I feel like the xba3 might be a little more clear, then I think they sound the same.

Its gonna take a veteran to really point out the subtle differences between them, Im gonna keep listening to them tonight and tomorrow and then go back to the xba3 and see.

So how are they? Great! They have nice clear bass, the highs are nice, the detail is very good and separation is good as well, the soundstage is good, maybe better a tiny bit than the 3? One thing for sure is that these things go LOUD! I can listen to my 3's max right now, the H1's? Hell no, they are LOUD lol

If you have the xba3 or 4 I dunno if this is an upgrade, if you have a cheaper iem these will be an upgrade, one thing to note is that the xba3 debuted at $300, these are $150, that says a lot.

Someone asked about the re400, its similar to what I have to say about the xba3 vs re400, the H1 has punchier bass, better clarity, better soundstage slightly, about the only thing the re400 beats either are in detail and thats slightly.

As for build/comfort/isolation/looks:

They look great! The red/black is neat, they are a bit beefy, thicker than the xba3, seems like they are about the same as the xba4.

As for comfort they are ok, they fit great and snug for me but keep in mind so do the xba3 which some had trouble with so take this with a grain of salt, I think the 3 is more comfortable to me as of now but lets see.

Isolation is great just as my xba3, about the same I say.

As for build they are plastic but feel very well made and strong, the cable is serrated and im sure will hold up, the jack is the same as the. 3 which is a good thing.

So if you have the xba3 or 4 is it worth the upgrade? As of now, no; perhaps with more time my opinion will change but they sound very very similar.

Re400? I like the sound signature of the sonys better but thats preference but build quality is no question, if build is important to you the sony is where its at.

Coming from a $60-$100 iem? Chances are yes! Just as the xba3 they are fantastic iems which are very well rounded, great for all types of music and enough bass for most people. So worth $150? Yes, no question.

Will I keep them or stay with my xba3? I will put a bit of time into these and see how it goes then decide.

Hope this helps, not the most technical as I am a bit of a newb to the headphone world but I tried my best. Any questions hit me up.
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I also am noticing more hissing on some songs than the xba3, not sure what that means.
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Thank you very much dweaver and kevms89 for comparisons with XBA-3/4. For the moment, I think I will hold off until there is a juicy sale come next year on these. Will still continue to monitor long term impressions.

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I also keep noticing background instruments a lot on the left ear, really cool.
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I also keep noticing background instruments a lot on the left ear, really cool.

Do you hear the same background instruments on the xba3? I'm really interested to know which is better in detail and separation...

Thanks for your impressions.
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(wrong thread)

Edited by fnkcow - 10/23/13 at 1:58am
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Well I just went ahead and order the XBA-H1's from Amazon UK. They were actually in stock so hopefully I'll have them soon! :)

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