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Not really surprising that 3BAs work better than 1 and a DD in certain ways. Remember the xba3 was effectively the flagship (with the 4 being apparently a low level booster rather than a better version. Compare h1 to xba 1 if you want fair comparison?

The XBA3 is MUCH better than my XBA1, if the H1's are like the XBA1 they are going right back as a refund because I am looking for an upgrade for my 3's.

With that being said I think the H1 is going to be as good or better than the 3.
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The XBA3 is MUCH better than my XBA1, if the H1's are like the XBA1 they are going right back as a refund because I am looking for an upgrade for my 3's.

With that being said I think the H1 is going to be as good or better than the 3.


I actually liked the 1 better than the 3. The 1 had more bass (to my ears) and the 3 was more to the treble sound. Also I have a poor fit with the 3 since it has a big housing that should have been further part from the tip.

 

 

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The case looks awesome for the H3.

Can the EX-1000 cable fit into the H3?

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Thank you for the review .
So they are on the bright side and a little fatiguing ?
And what you can say about isolation ?

It seemed like it would be at first, but now it feels nice to listen to for extended periods.

There is a mic on the remote cable, but it only has one button.

It has ear loops on the cable that prevent it from being worn down. It is strictly over-ear.
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I actually liked the 1 better than the 3. The 1 had more bass (to my ears) and the 3 was more to the treble sound. Also I have a poor fit with the 3 since it has a big housing that should have been further part from the tip.


Back On-Topic:
The case looks awesome for the H3.
Can the EX-1000 cable fit into the H3?
Wow that just goes to show!

I had fit issues with the 1 and while the 1 sounded pretty good to my ears the xba3 took it to another level for me, I get a perfect fit (I have big ears if it matters lol) and they also had better bass and just sound much more clear to me.

If these end up not being my taste I am just getting the xba40 and be done with it.
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Wow that just goes to show!

I had fit issues with the 1 and while the 1 sounded pretty good to my ears the xba3 took it to another level for me, I get a perfect fit (I have big ears if it matters lol) and they also had better bass and just sound much more clear to me.

If these end up not being my taste I am just getting the xba40 and be done with it.


So that means the XBA-1 was 'loose' in your ear? XBA-3 was tight for me using the supplied 'GREEN' tips. But now I use comply tips which eases the pain but I can feel the XBA-3 impinging on the groove that follows into the outer ear canal (if that makes any sense)

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So that means the XBA-1 was 'loose' in your ear? XBA-3 was tight for me using the supplied 'GREEN' tips. But now I use comply tips which eases the pain but I can feel the XBA-3 impinging on the groove that follows into the outer ear canal (if that makes any sense)

No they fit in my ears and would stay in but they just felt uncomfortable when I would get a good seal.

The 3's I just slip them right in and perfect seal.
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It seemed like it would be at first, but now it feels nice to listen to for extended periods.
There is a mic on the remote cable, but it only has one button.
It has ear loops on the cable that prevent it from being worn down. It is strictly over-ear.

When you are listening music with H3 at normal levels (not too loud) you can hear the noise, talking that's around you ?

And how much they isolate from external noise compared with other in-ear phones that you had ?

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Originally Posted by coyoteboy View Post

Not really surprising that 3BAs work better than 1 and a DD in certain ways. Remember the xba3 was effectively the flagship (with the 4 being apparently a low level booster rather than a better version. Compare h1 to xba 1 if you want fair comparison?

Actually it won't be a fair to compare the h1 and xba1 since the difference in their retail price is kinda big

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Some serious bass in those songs. I was using my iPhone 5S with a flat EQ. They all sounded really good. Last song was nuts on the bass.
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Some serious bass in those songs. I was using my iPhone 5S with a flat EQ. They all sounded really good. Last song was nuts on the bass.

Thank you very much. I'm sorry for my insolence. This track has the lowest subbas from what I've heard. If there is a enveloping effect then they definitely basshead iem. Thank you for your patience. 

 

 

beginning of the track and 1:10 


Edited by stimer - 10/20/13 at 8:09am
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Originally Posted by Kaician View Post

The H3 was a fairly logical step in my headphone progression. I owned a UE custom long ago, but decided against further BA purchases due to repair costs (young and reckless with headphones). After gaining some years and experience I decided it was time to dabble again in the world of high end headphones.
I started researching and was really interested in the recent BA/dynamic hybrid trend.

I guess I should make a disclosure here that I'm a bit of a basshead now. Not always been one, but I do like a solid bit of bass in my music enjoyment.

That said, the H3's were welcomed on the 17th of October.

With little fanfare they were delivered and opened. The outer packaging was little to speak of, but the inner boxing, and accessories were very nice. I've been using Sony tips with the audio-technica solid bass series (cks99i/cks1000) so I was used to the normal ones, but they included new urethane filled hybrid tips with the headphones.

A bit of an aside, those tips would not stay put at first, but with a bit of usage, they are some of the best tips I have ever used. A combination of singe flanged silicon tips and foamy tips, they isolate as well as they feel comfortable, a definite thumbs up.

The headphones themselves were unboxed and summarily subjected to a round of testing.
Having been through the whole CKS1000 burn-in process (do a search) I realized that some headphones were absolutely useless without a burn in period.
The H3 are in that group. With no burn in, it seemed that huge swaths of the spectrum were missing the music I was listening to. A bottle scary from a new investment, it having had a similar experience with the cks1000, I thought it par for the course.
Directly from an iPhone and using the equalizer, I was able to eke it what I thought was nice sound from the drivers, but still shy of what I thought I paid for.
I set up them up overnight with a fairly bassy song t at least work out the dynamic driver.

I the morning I took a listen to them and was surprised by what I heard. The opposite of what I heard the previous night, listening with the equalizer seemed to limit them, and cutting the equalizer seemed to lead to a fuller, richer sound. Setting the eq to off, they seemed a bit neutral/bass shy. From a basshead perspective, with songs that were heavy in bass, they would play just as I expected with the ATH solid bass series, but with unaccentuated bass songs, you would be loath to hear the low end at all. Ok, that's an exaggeration, but I was used to a nice rumble, and this was a very polite thump.

The soundstage was very surprising in that it was so wide that it was easy to forget that you had iems on. Maybe it was a function of the high drivers, but it was easy to forget where the sound was coming from.
Compared to the night before, the highs had also seemed to mellow a bit and it was a little more non-fatiguing.

Right now I am listening to them straight from the iPhone with a 10band equalizer program on the iPhone (eq10). Using it to make a bit of a v-shape, I realized the worth of these iems. They are seemingly neutral (to me) but with the 16mm dynamic driver and super high BA tweeter, have the ability to become whatever you want them to become through a little bit of eq.
The settings I have now have the same unadulterated crystal clear highs, but the lows completely undistorted while being lower than any other phone I've ever listened to. "Omen [R3 mix]" is a particularly nice test (google).

For those who don't want to eq, I think using an amp and or higher quality dac with these will achieve a similar effect. They seem to be able to do near anything that you want them to do, and for the price point, the only real negative besides the two-tone cord (debatable) is the fact that they stick out of your ears like the TF10's worn normally. And with no way to wear them differently. They are worth it sonically, so I have no reserves about wearing them proudly.

Hopefully anyone the fence about them will take the plunge, or at least take a test listen. For me they are a gateway to customs, but only for looks and comfort. I could easily see myself stoping here if everything was based on sound quality alone ( of course I say this before getting the customs I want).

In any case, give the XBA-H3 a try, they are a truly amazing piece of kit for the going price, even before the inevitable price drop they will see in time.
nice impression..one question here,how is the degree of sibilance if there is any?
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Thank you very much. I'm sorry for my insolence. This track has the lowest subbas from what I've heard. If there is a enveloping effect then they definitely basshead iem. Thank you for your patience.

 

 

beginning of the track and 1:10

If it helps, I did the listening with my Sony EX-1000. I have the enveloping effect very clearly. Boa, what a bass and what a track. The H3 has basically a similar dynamic driver as the EX-1000. So there is a great basshead potential probably. Using PC > usb2.0 > Asus Xonar U7 (192/24 no effects, no EQ) > Sony EX-1000


Edited by pietcux - 10/20/13 at 11:30am
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I've just ordered the h1 on Amazon (USA) for $149 shipped after reading up on this thread. It seems everyone favors EDM, hopefully they'll do classical acoustic jazz and rock as well as the bass-y flavors.

They'll be my walkarounds splitting time with the RE400 (used for winding down/relaxing) and also be my gym go-to. I need something lively in the bass for working out, it's just not the same with the laid back presentation of the RE400s.

Adorama also has the h3 on preorder but they're showing a shipment of December at $349. Do pre-orders get a discount elsewhere and can they be had now elsewhere (link please)?
Edited by Soundsgoodtome - 10/20/13 at 1:46pm
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Originally Posted by pietcux View Post
 

If it helps, I did the listening with my Sony EX-1000. I have the enveloping effect very clearly. Boa, what a bass and what a track. The H3 has basically a similar dynamic driver as the EX-1000. So there is a great basshead potential probably. Using PC > usb2.0 > Asus Xonar U7 (192/24 no effects, no EQ) > Sony EX-1000

wow thanks

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