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post #226 of 2543
Well the UM 3dd is a triple dynamic and sounded really nice but I don't know about 2 dynamics 2 BAs...
Well some people manage to do great with 5 BAs and 5 crossover points, with much less means than Sony, so I think Sony could manage the 4 driver hybrid.
post #227 of 2543

I'd say that the ideal hybrid configuration would be one dynamic, one BA, both full-range. Just sayin'...

post #228 of 2543
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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post

I'd say that the ideal hybrid configuration would be one dynamic, one BA, both full-range. Just sayin'...

I'd be interested in an elaboration. smile.gif
post #229 of 2543

 

 


Edited by stimer - 9/17/13 at 3:57am
post #230 of 2543
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Originally Posted by vwinter View Post  I'd be interested in an elaboration. smile.gif

 

Well, "ideal" would also mean developing dynamic drivers and BAs specifically for each other, i.e. matching Z curves and room phase curves, and making sure both drivers are time aligned. I would advocate for the dynamic driver to do most of the work, and allowing the BA to merely make itself present for highlighting some musical harmonics. Maybe the BA can be a "tweeter" in the sense that it naturally has very little low frequency bandwidth due to its case/armature design, but I would not want to use passive components, and merely hook the two drivers up in parallel.

post #231 of 2543
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Well, "ideal" would also mean developing dynamic drivers and BAs specifically for each other, i.e. matching Z curves and room phase curves, and making sure both drivers are time aligned. I would advocate for the dynamic driver to do most of the work, and allowing the BA to merely make itself present for highlighting some musical harmonics. Maybe the BA can be a "tweeter" in the sense that it naturally has very little low frequency bandwidth due to its case/armature design, but I would not want to use passive components, and merely hook the two drivers up in parallel.

 

Is that how the Aurisonics ASG-2 works, or is that something different? From what I've read, the dynamic driver is full range and the BAs are there to augment the highs (crossover-free design).


Edited by PeterDLai - 9/17/13 at 1:52am
post #232 of 2543
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Is that how the Aurisonics ASG-2 works, or is that something different? From what I've read, the dynamic driver is full range and the BAs are there to augment the highs (crossover-free design).

 

Yup. But they really failed in terms of tuning. There is no treble what so ever.

post #233 of 2543
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Originally Posted by kimvictor View Post  Yup. But they really failed in terms of tuning. There is no treble what so ever.

 

There isn't much sub-bass either. It doesn't quite seem like a "full-range" dynamic driver.

post #234 of 2543
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Yup. But they really failed in terms of tuning. There is no treble what so ever.

I'd disagree. Some say it has more treble presence than the er4s. I think there is plenty of treble but I'd like to hear more upper mids.
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There isn't much sub-bass either. It doesn't quite seem like a "full-range" dynamic driver.

It's masked by the mid bass. The cross valve mod should change this.

Anyway, if Sony is going to use the ex1000 driver, I hope they leave the bass response untouched. The ex1000 simple has the best bass I've heard. Extended and delicate, yet effortless.
post #235 of 2543
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Originally Posted by tomscy2000 View Post
 

 

Well, "ideal" would also mean developing dynamic drivers and BAs specifically for each other, i.e. matching Z curves and room phase curves, and making sure both drivers are time aligned. I would advocate for the dynamic driver to do most of the work, and allowing the BA to merely make itself present for highlighting some musical harmonics. Maybe the BA can be a "tweeter" in the sense that it naturally has very little low frequency bandwidth due to its case/armature design, but I would not want to use passive components, and merely hook the two drivers up in parallel.

 

I like that idea very much. :L3000:

post #236 of 2543
I think it is basically xba4 tweeter added with ex1000 driver. I don't think they spend that much money on R&D as thei asking price isn't that high.(talking about xbah3)
post #237 of 2543
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I think it is basically xba4 tweeter added with ex1000 driver. I don't think they spend that much money on R&D as thei asking price isn't that high.(talking about xbah3)

 

That sounds pretty good. Maybe a better BA would be welcome, but I'm a fan of sony's dynamic drivers.

post #238 of 2543
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That sounds pretty good. Maybe a better BA would be welcome, but I'm a fan of sony's dynamic drivers.
We just got to be patient and not to built it up so much in our head.
post #239 of 2543
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We just got to be patient and not to built it up so much in our head.

 

K. Does the H1 have EX1000 or 7550 drivers? I thought H1 was released.

post #240 of 2543
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K. Does the H1 have EX1000 or 7550 drivers? I thought H1 was released.
We are all guessing as no one knows. I did my best to find out but couldn't find any leads.
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