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post #2086 of 3252
From StanD

I recommend that you listen to "In the Pocket" by Dave Weckl on the Hard-Wired Album and then tell me how you think the H3 handles bass as well as drums.




Wow! Someone else bought Dave's album? I thought I was the only one who did that!
post #2087 of 3252
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Originally Posted by jnorris View Post

From StanD

I recommend that you listen to "In the Pocket" by Dave Weckl on the Hard-Wired Album and then tell me how you think the H3 handles bass as well as drums.




Wow! Someone else bought Dave's album? I thought I was the only one who did that!

I have a few of his albums and more streamed form Google All Access. Simply outstanding.

You like Fusion Jazz?

post #2088 of 3252
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Originally Posted by mechgamer123 View Post
 

Yeah, I should clarify I like emphasized bass when I'm on the go, since I find "neutral" bass just gets washed out in background noise, so I prefer an elevated bass profile on the go. Also, my STAX have a slight bass hump and enough impact to keep me satisfied. ;)

 

Sony's flagships always get cheap pretty quickly after being released though. I'd say even with the hybrid tips, the GR07BE was still a bit sibilant for me, and I'm not really personally looking forward to the VSD3, if it does actually emulate the Shure/Westone sound because I found that too dull and boring.

 

Although I haven't heard the EX1000, I'm guessing it's more like the EX1k's mids and treble are recreated with BAs, and then there's a subwoofer strapped onto the whole mix. :D

 

Let us know what you think of them when you get them though!

Yeah, same, definitely enjoy more bass impact on the go - plus the added oomph always makes me more energetic somehow!
Noted you had both the DN-1000/GR07BE two of my fav IEM'S I've heard, preferring the GR07BE slightly more based off memory
I'm thinking the H3 would be a nice upgrade for me... I really like IEM's with big soundstaging and bass

post #2089 of 3252
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Originally Posted by joey99 View Post
 

I didn't like the sound of the tape mod either. I think finding the right tips were more important to get the right sound for me because in the past 2 days I'm tried all the tips I had from my MH1, UE900, IM70, and of course all the tips that came with the H3. I found different sizes gave really different sound. I can see maybe why people might call the bass really bloated and covered up everything ... that's when I use the normal large tips and especially the complys .. all I hear is bass thats just very bloomy and all the mids and highs are covered up. So after trying all of them, I found l liked the sound of the large IM70 tips which doesn't have overwhelming bass and keeps vocals clear and in front. Using medium tips for me will move everything more forward, more clear but looses the bass a bit. 

 

All in all I really like these. 

 

+1  on the tape mod.

 

Did you try the Comply T's or TS? I found the TS to be be more open and controlled the bass better than the T's. Still think the Sony hybrid's have the brightest sound from the ones I've tried but the comfort just isn't there for longer listening sessions.

post #2090 of 3252
StanD,

I'm a drummer and Dave is a hero of sorts. I have many of his cd's as well as a few of his training DVDs. I cut my teeth on fusion back in the 70's with Mahavishnu Orchestra and Return to Forever, and watched it crumble into "Acid Jazz" and "Smooth Jazz" as labels like GRP homogenized and pasteurized the output of some really fine players. Dave remains independent and is still delivering top-notch stuff.
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I couldn't find that post by Stan D, but I managed to find a sample of In the Pocket on iTunes. 

 

I'm not gonna get into whether or not it sounds "accurate" and that kind of thing...

 

What I'll say though, is that the sensation I get from listening to the song, is the drums and the other instruments are elevated; they sound like they're at the top of my head. The bass feels a little lower. It gives this sensation of being near by jaw. The music just sounds good to me. 

 

My H3 at this point gives the music this "surrounding" feel. 

post #2092 of 3252
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Originally Posted by jnorris View Post

StanD,

I'm a drummer and Dave is a hero of sorts. I have many of his cd's as well as a few of his training DVDs. I cut my teeth on fusion back in the 70's with Mahavishnu Orchestra and Return to Forever, and watched it crumble into "Acid Jazz" and "Smooth Jazz" as labels like GRP homogenized and pasteurized the output of some really fine players. Dave remains independent and is still delivering top-notch stuff.

Don't forget Weather Report. I used to work with Synthesizers back in those days and got to personally know many musicians of all genres of that period. John McLaughlin and Jan Hammer were two that I got to know.

That was a brief period of great music that actually attracted a following. These days what's popular is T&A and foul mouthed lyrics to a simplistic thumping one note beat I hope nobody takes offence at that remark. Weckl's band is out of this world and never got the attention they deserve.

Drums sound great therough Orthodynamic (Magnetic Planar) headphones. I have a pair of HE-500's and they 'da bomb.


Edited by StanD - 6/8/14 at 11:04pm
post #2093 of 3252
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Originally Posted by BlinkST View Post
 

I couldn't find that post by Stan D, but I managed to find a sample of In the Pocket on iTunes. 

 

I'm not gonna get into whether or not it sounds "accurate" and that kind of thing...

 

What I'll say though, is that the sensation I get from listening to the song, is the drums and the other instruments are elevated; they sound like they're at the top of my head. The bass feels a little lower. It gives this sensation of being near by jaw. The music just sounds good to me. 

 

My H3 at this point gives the music this "surrounding" feel. 

Try this, The album is pretty good and probably better fidelity than a YouTube.

post #2094 of 3252

Thanks for sharing that. Like before, I'm not gonna get into how "accurate" it sounds or anything thing like that, only the sensation I get from it and whether it's enjoyable or not. I listened through the whole song; never felt anything was boring or I had to skip a part. Plus, the sound from my H3 doesn't "hit" my ears anymore, except sometimes with voices on certain recordings in general. 

 

This diagram shows how I heard the song:

 

 

 

The guitar and the audience were the quietest parts of the song. 

post #2095 of 3252
I just got my h3s and am so in love with them, it's the best earphone purchase I've made. My gr07 BE and dn-1000 still have a place in my collection, but these things are amazeballs. Deep driving sub layer that makes everything I'm listening to sound great. The armature are tuned beautifully to a perfect v signature while still keeping the mids clear. They are exactly what I was hoping to get and more.

The gr07 BE and dn-1000 are my Mercedes and Cadillac, but the h3 is my Ferrari!

H3 is awesome, and well worth what I paid. They are amazing.
Edited by Hisoundfi - 6/9/14 at 11:01am
post #2096 of 3252
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Originally Posted by BlinkST View Post
 

Thanks for sharing that. Like before, I'm not gonna get into how "accurate" it sounds or anything thing like that, only the sensation I get from it and whether it's enjoyable or not. I listened through the whole song; never felt anything was boring or I had to skip a part. Plus, the sound from my H3 doesn't "hit" my ears anymore, except sometimes with voices on certain recordings in general. 

 

This diagram shows how I heard the song:

 

 

 

The guitar and the audience were the quietest parts of the song. 

In many of his recordings the drums are as wide as the soundtage of your listening kit, very nice.

post #2097 of 3252

I snagged the H1 for $25 at Best Buy (through a few coupons and a random sale). I have to say, I'm impressed out of the box. I haven't listened to very many "good" IEMs, the best I've had are the Atrio MG7 and the Shure SE215, and I'd say it's tricky to compare them to this just thanks to wildly different signature. But I think they're pretty dang solid for dual IEMs. 

 

Main complaint is they seem a touch sibilant. Cymbals come out more than I'd prefer, but the tonal balance is enjoyable overall. They make a great companion to the Pandoras. Like a cheap little in-ear version of 'em. 

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Originally Posted by SomeGuyDude View Post
 

I snagged the H1 for $25 at Best Buy (through a few coupons and a random sale). I have to say, I'm impressed out of the box. I haven't listened to very many "good" IEMs, the best I've had are the Atrio MG7 and the Shure SE215, and I'd say it's tricky to compare them to this just thanks to wildly different signature. But I think they're pretty dang solid for dual IEMs. 

 

Main complaint is they seem a touch sibilant. Cymbals come out more than I'd prefer, but the tonal balance is enjoyable overall. They make a great companion to the Pandoras. Like a cheap little in-ear version of 'em. 


damn,,,,25$ is too cheap!!

h1 are definitely better than basshead 215 for sure.

 

i got them but didn't like them too much as they had a little more bass for my preference and returned them and got gr07 mk2.

 

but irony os i got monster turbine pro copper afterwards which are way more bassy than h1,lol

post #2099 of 3252

Just got my H3's today, and I have to say, my initial impressions are overwhelmingly positive! Switched the tips for the Sony foam hybrid tips (first time I've ever had my hands on them) and having come from from a set of TF10's these are a definite upgrade to my ears. You get all the benefits of dynamic driver bass, nice and rumble-y with great extension, and the balanced armature detail shining through in the mids and trebles, almost exactly what I imagined an upgraded TF10 would sound like! I've read posts about the other popular hybrids going around at the moment (T-Peos H300 and Dunu DN2000) and the general consensus is that they are better than the H3... I can't imagine how amazing they must sound if the H3 is this good!

post #2100 of 3252
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Originally Posted by sardar17 View Post
 


damn,,,,25$ is too cheap!!

h1 are definitely better than basshead 215 for sure.

 

i got them but didn't like them too much as they had a little more bass for my preference and returned them and got gr07 mk2.

 

but irony os i got monster turbine pro copper afterwards which are way more bassy than h1,lol

 

Yeah at $25 there's NO way to complain, LOL.

 

I have to admit I can't see how these are too bassy for anyone. Not that they're bass light, but to my ears they're just, y'know... flattish with maybe a touch more sibilance than I'd prefer, at least out of the box.

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