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post #1921 of 2722
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Originally Posted by pietcux View Post
 


You might want to check on the Sony MDR EX-1000. They are much easier to fit as they are definitely smaller. They have a magnesium body that is a lot more stable than the H3's plastic body. And they have a very special dynamic driver that is not the same as the bass driver of the H3 even though the specs are similar. The EX-1000 is much more refined across the board and the treble are very fast and sparkly.

The EX1000 have a more laid back signature and the dynamic driver is way better than that in the XBA-H3.  Problem is they have big vents so isolation is really lacking even if you do get a proper seal with the tips.  You need to use them in a quiet environment to get the best out of them.  When you do you'll get a really large staging with sweet vocals in a laid back way.  Bass has great impact with the EX1000, you really feel the impact.

post #1922 of 2722

Ok, wind is a problem with both the H3 and the EX-1000. And isolation is ok but not the same as CIEMs for sure. But for me they are ok in the office , outside when there is no or not much wind and for sports as they fit me very good, especially the EX-1000. I can run an hour without fixing the fit.

post #1923 of 2722
Hey X i l i X,
would you have any examples of other gear that have "ultra crisp" highs that you enjoy? The TF10s highs have been noted to be harsh to some and i would like to tread carefully until i know a little more...
Staying with sony for ex: the EX1000 has some "ultra crisp" highs that some enjoy and others find quite fatiguing (see james444 and ericp10 debate this, awhile back in this thread)
Just hoping you find what you want 👌
post #1924 of 2722
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Originally Posted by pietcux View Post
 


You might want to check on the Sony MDR EX-1000. They are much easier to fit as they are definitely smaller. They have a magnesium body that is a lot more stable than the H3's plastic body. And they have a very special dynamic driver that is not the same as the bass driver of the H3 even though the specs are similar. The EX-1000 is much more refined across the board and the treble are very fast and sparkly.

 

Actually, the H3 is a good deal more refined than the EX1000, and the H3's treble is a lot more detailed and real. Where the EX1000 wins is in its tuning...it sounds like an open air stadium without borders.

 

But the H3 wins in every other way when you tape over the vent. 

post #1925 of 2722
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Originally Posted by pietcux View Post
 


You might want to check on the Sony MDR EX-1000. They are much easier to fit as they are definitely smaller. They have a magnesium body that is a lot more stable than the H3's plastic body. And they have a very special dynamic driver that is not the same as the bass driver of the H3 even though the specs are similar. The EX-1000 is much more refined across the board and the treble are very fast and sparkly.

I have only listened to Ex 1000 VERY briefly but found the upper ranges to be pretty shrill and grating at times, otherwise they sounded very nice. I would take issue with the comment "a lot more stable than the H3's plastic body" . I don't believe there is any difference in "stability" whatever that means, in terms of fit, although the EX 1000 is nicer to handle. Metal is metal after all.  . The EX 1000 weighs 8G and the H3's are 10G, so they are both quite light for their size. They're both bulky but the H3's are certainly larger - either way, both of these are wires over the ears fit only As far as fit goes, you would really need to try them. I know if you buy them from a Sony store (Canada anyway,) they have a 30 day return policy if you're not happy with them. The H3's treble is amazing, IMHO much more clear, realistic and balanced then the EX 1000


Edited by hockey_magnet - 5/3/14 at 3:46pm
post #1926 of 2722

EX1000's treble is painfully good if you can sustain the pain long enough, as I have done for 4000+ hrs.

post #1927 of 2722
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Originally Posted by BestEarCN View Post

dragonfly describe them as smoother though, guess i need to look into that
I heard that too, they are said to be smoother and more refined (less bass)... Hard to know what you like until you try them
post #1928 of 2722
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Originally Posted by DMinor View Post

EX1000's treble is painfully good if you can sustain the pain long enough, as I have done for 4000+ hrs.

3 hours a day every single day for 4 years with same iem's? That's impressive !
post #1929 of 2722
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3 hours a day every single day for 4 years with same iem's? That's impressive !

 

I have been taking a crash training since I got the phones in April 2012.

post #1930 of 2722
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I have been taking a crash training since I got the phones in April 2012.

So you're averaging SIX hours a day 365 days a year for 2 years continuously ? Even more impressive. I think that must be a record.
post #1931 of 2722
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So you're averaging SIX hours a day 365 days a year for 2 years continuously ? Even more impressive. I think that must be a record.


Now where can I claim my award for the record? I would be glad to accept a 2nd pair of EX1000. :wink_face:

post #1932 of 2722
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

I am about to get my cable tomorrow I believe, will report on how they affect the sound.

So - any improvements with the cable?
post #1933 of 2722
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Originally Posted by BestEarCN View Post

damn got them $300 a week a ago, even with student discount

Don't Cha hate when that happens?!

I'm "stuck" with mine. Lol.
post #1934 of 2722

Yup This cable cost me $60 shipped. Is 92% silver or so it says. Sounds absolutely awesome..Can't go back to my stock cables. The treble has a touch less bite but has more range it seems. Silkiness of the treble is a permanent part of the sound using these cables.  Mid range has a smooth yet textured a touch better than the stock cable. Bass is a bit tighter and cleaner sounding..The 3Dness of sound overall sounds better defined.. Not a night and day difference in sonics but an upgrade none the less.

 

Super H3s..My friends. The good news is these silver cables don't cost that much..I did notice the sound was a bit warm when I first heard the sound with this cable but has gradually changed to a more neutral tone since. Very nice sounding.. Even my other silver OFC gave me a better sound than the stock cable.

 

Much less silver content on this one as it is coated copper but the sound was kind of the opposite in that it was cooler in tone at first listen which gradually became more neutral in tone with more use.. Both sound excellent..I do prefer this new $60 cable I just got however as the cheaper one uses a lame plastic ear hook that is way too small for my ears. Had to ditch those. This new one is proper.

 

A couple upgraded cable options.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/6N-OFHC-Silver-Plated-upgrade-cable-for-Shure-se215-se315-se425-se535/261469433345?_trksid=p2050601.c100085.m2372&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140211132617%26meid%3D6655453073184498771%26pid%3D100085%26prg%3D20140211132617%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121293444180%26clkid%3D6655455017263490331&_qi=RTM1562571 My other cable is very similar to this one but uses a cheaper hear hook. This one looks more proper however.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Silver-Love-Shure-se535-se425-se315-se215-upgrade-cable-/251510993064? pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a8f3930a8   this is my silver love 92% silver cables.. Love this cable.


Edited by Dsnuts - 5/3/14 at 11:10pm
post #1935 of 2722

I am sorry if I am asking a noob question, but can really cables change the sound signature/quality? 

 

I have the XBA-H3 and I like the cable but I like the cables that were posted above more. The Sony cable is sexy but sometimes it tangle even though its flat....

 

So what I am trying to figure out is if I buy one of these cables posted above, will the sound signature change of my XBA-H3?

 

Thanks


Edited by SKilleT - 5/3/14 at 11:52pm
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