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post #16 of 31
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

Which is honestly around $250 since they are both already used

Trust me for $250 there is no upgrade to the Dt 990... there are side grades, like the potential of getting a closed can but even then a good closed can will need an amp at least as powerful as the E17

In addition the Dt 990 is about as good for gaming as the AD 700 is, granted the AD 700 is a tad bit better on the positional cues. but your going to be missing that bass. Trust me don't get all pissy and sell you whole rig because you think having a real "gaming set up" is going to make you any better at Fps. It sounds like to me you've been getting your butt handed to you in some FPS and have decided that listening to "foot steps" is going to help prevent that... it wont 

So I'd keep your Dt 990, and do what you can to get as much as you can for your E17, that way you'll have something for listening to foot steps with and something that sounds good with music/ The E17 should go for at least $100, which might buy you a nice enough Sound Card that will have the Surround sound you'd looking for 

I apoliogize ahead of time if I offended you, but as one gamer to another, listening to foot steps dones't really help you THAT much, if your can't maintain a Positive K\d without it, you wont maintain a postive K/D with it.

No dude haha i know all of this
And i don't have a computer yet the parts are on their way
Im moving from console gaming as its the end of this gen and pc seems way more enticing
In bf3 on console i have a 1.5 kd without headphones using tv speakers
I know its not important and i never said i want to be able to pick out footsteps and all that
I love my dt990s but they just are not loud enough as i have nothing to drive 600 ohm and thats why i want to replace them
So right now im thinking should i just sell the e17 for around 100 aud and save another 100 for the stx which should be able to drive my phones
post #17 of 31
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Originally Posted by i luvmusic 2 View Post

thanks,i'm not planing to spend money on amp right now i will still use my bravo audio ocean.

i replaced the tube of my bravo to JJ tubes  and i noticed that the bass is tigther, mids are more upfront and the treble is a bit more warm than the stock tube.

installed a ELECTRO-HARMONIX tube and it sound warmer  compared to the JJ tube and the stock tube.

i think i will get the DT 880 600 ohms.

again thanks a lot...

I would go with the Dt 880m Pro 250 ohm. It sounds very simmilar to the 600, and I owned both the 600 ohm and the 250 ohm. Honestly unless your going to balance the Dt 880 you DO NOT need the 600 ohm version. 

 

Save your self some cash and get the 250 ohm version, it will sound nice with your tube 

post #18 of 31
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No dude haha i know all of this
And i don't have a computer yet the parts are on their way
Im moving from console gaming as its the end of this gen and pc seems way more enticing
In bf3 on console i have a 1.5 kd without headphones using tv speakers
I know its not important and i never said i want to be able to pick out footsteps and all that
I love my dt990s but they just are not loud enough as i have nothing to drive 600 ohm and thats why i want to replace them
So right now im thinking should i just sell the e17 for around 100 aud and save another 100 for the stx which should be able to drive my phones

Oh wait... you bought the 600 ohm dt 990s xD ouch dude, those are such a rip off

 

The Pro 250 ohm Beyer dt 990 is really the only one worth having imo, if you want the additional balance the 600 ohm variant has... you might as get just another can for the price of the 600 ohm one.

 

I'd try to sell your Preium 600 ohm dt 990 and buy a Beyer Dt 990 PRO 250 ohm version, as it sounds pretty much the same. As far as teh Beyer DT series go, I [owned both the 250 and 600 ohm dt 880] and the sound is simmilar enough between the the two that there is no reason to own the 600 ohm UNLESS you already have an amp to run them on. For example I'm running a fully balanced Dt 880, and I'm about to get a Balanced Desktop and Portable amp, since running a balanced XLR 4 Pin [or dual 3] pushes almost twice the power as Single End, I decided to get the 600 ohm version so it can better pair with all that extra power

 

For some one running a single end se tup [the 3.5mm and 6.5mm jacks] The Pro 250 ohm versions are honestly the only ones to own! The price on them is awesome as is the sound 

 

So yea try and trade your 600 ohm for a 250 ohm pro version, and then your e17 should sound much better with them xD 

post #19 of 31
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I love my dt990s but they just are not loud enough as i have nothing to drive 600 ohm and thats why i want to replace them
A Schiit magni does the job and is 100$
post #20 of 31
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A Schiit magni does the job and is 100$

But he's going to need a dac other wise it's gonna pretty bleh 

 

I'd say go for a side grade to the 250ohm version and enjoy your e17 

post #21 of 31
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

Oh wait... you bought the 600 ohm dt 990s xD ouch dude, those are such a rip off

The Pro 250 ohm Beyer dt 990 is really the only one worth having imo, if you want the additional balance the 600 ohm variant has... you might as get just another can for the price of the 600 ohm one.

I'd try to sell your Preium 600 ohm dt 990 and buy a Beyer Dt 990 PRO 250 ohm version, as it sounds pretty much the same. As far as teh Beyer DT series go, I [owned both the 250 and 600 ohm dt 880] and the sound is simmilar enough between the the two that there is no reason to own the 600 ohm UNLESS you already have an amp to run them on. For example I'm running a fully balanced Dt 880, and I'm about to get a Balanced Desktop and Portable amp, since running a balanced XLR 4 Pin [or dual 3] pushes almost twice the power as Single End, I decided to get the 600 ohm version so it can better pair with all that extra power

For some one running a single end se tup [the 3.5mm and 6.5mm jacks] The Pro 250 ohm versions are honestly the only ones to own! The price on them is awesome as is the sound 

So yea try and trade your 600 ohm for a 250 ohm pro version, and then your e17 should sound much better with them xD 

Thats the thing
I ordered the 250 ohm version from America
Got sent these
At time didn't know what that actually meant haha thought i got a bargain

How much do e17s go for
post #22 of 31

thanks for your adviced.

my plan is to get 600ohms so in the future i will buy a better tube headphone amp.

interms of balancing the headphone does it need a special amp for that?

sory i need to asked because i'm still new in this hobby.

thanks..

post #23 of 31
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dt 990s premium 600 ohm ?
 

post #24 of 31
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Originally Posted by i luvmusic 2 View Post

thanks for your adviced.

my plan is to get 600ohms so in the future i will buy a better tube headphone amp.

interms of balancing the headphone does it need a special amp for that?

sory i need to asked because i'm still new in this hobby.

thanks..

Yes you need a special amp and a special Dac for that, $600 is the cheapest you can go for a Dac and Amp. and that does not include the price of having the headphone re terminated and balanced [can cost as much as $200 or more] Honestly you just joined head fi, save your self some pain and money and grab the Dt 880 Pro 250, and something like an E17. That's going to give you the best Quality and sound, until you have at least $600 to spend on a dac and amp that will push a Balance 600 ohm well enough to sound better than the Pro 250 ohm, 

 

Again get the Pro 250 ohm and the E17 as that's going to be a really magic combo. Then save up for something bigger and better. 

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dt 990s premium 600 ohm ?
 

No he's going for the Dt 880 600 ohm [which I have atm along with my 990 pro 250's]

 

And I suggest both of you get the 250 ohm versions, as the E17 will run those nicely. No reason in spending the extra money on the 600 ohm until you've got at least $1000 lying around. As you'd need a balanced Dac, a Balanced Amp and then you'd need to actually [and it cost money] get a Pair of Beyer Dt 880 [990s or what ever] re balanced. 

 

So trust me when I say, the Dt 880 Pro 250 and E17 are a NICE combo, going fully balanced and spending an 5 as much on that set up might sound 10-15% better if that and it is by NO means money worth spending on your first set up, as you might not even be able to hear the differance. As it takes a little time to learn how to listen for the nuances the exist between different audio gear 

post #25 of 31
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Yes you need a special amp and a special Dac for that, $600 is the cheapest you can go for a Dac and Amp. and that does not include the price of having the headphone re terminated and balanced [can cost as much as $200 or more] Honestly you just joined head fi, save your self some pain and money and grab the Dt 880 Pro 250, and something like an E17. That's going to give you the best Quality and sound, until you have at least $600 to spend on a dac and amp that will push a Balance 600 ohm well enough to sound better than the Pro 250 ohm, 

 

Again get the Pro 250 ohm and the E17 as that's going to be a really magic combo. Then save up for something bigger and better. 

No he's going for the Dt 880 600 ohm [which I have atm along with my 990 pro 250's]

 

And I suggest both of you get the 250 ohm versions, as the E17 will run those nicely. No reason in spending the extra money on the 600 ohm until you've got at least $1000 lying around. As you'd need a balanced Dac, a Balanced Amp and then you'd need to actually [and it cost money] get a Pair of Beyer Dt 880 [990s or what ever] re balanced. 

 

So trust me when I say, the Dt 880 Pro 250 and E17 are a NICE combo, going fully balanced and spending an 5 as much on that set up might sound 10-15% better if that and it is by NO means money worth spending on your first set up, as you might not even be able to hear the differance. As it takes a little time to learn how to listen for the nuances the exist between different audio gear 

you have a very good point there.maybe i should stick to my current setup(DT 770 Pro 250 Ohms & Bravo audio Ocean)and save some cash to get DT 880 prem.600 ohms balance with amp and dac.

post #26 of 31
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Originally Posted by i luvmusic 2 View Post

you have a very good point there.maybe i should stick to my current setup(DT 770 Pro 250 Ohms & Bravo audio Ocean)and save some cash to get DT 880 prem.600 ohms balance with amp and dac.

*face palm* yea there is that option, you could enjoy the Dt 880 Pro 250 ohm with your Bravo Ocean, and then sell both the 770 and 880 to get a Balanced 880 in the future as well. But the 880 SE is a good one, just buy it and love it forever xD

 

She's like a woman [I hope your a dude] it's great to get to know her when she is like 18, 19 love her when she's a little younger, than as your mature get to know her again when's 25 and she's a little more "balanced" and a little harder to "please" ;3 don't rush into that sexy older women till you've loved that young girl! 

post #27 of 31
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*face palm* yea there is that option, you could enjoy the Dt 880 Pro 250 ohm with your Bravo Ocean, and then sell both the 770 and 880 to get a Balanced 880 in the future as well. But the 880 SE is a good one, just buy it and love it forever xD

 

She's like a woman [I hope your a dude] it's great to get to know her when she is like 18, 19 love her when she's a little younger, than as your mature get to know her again when's 25 and she's a little more "balanced" and a little harder to "please" ;3 don't rush into that sexy older women till you've loved that young girl! 

yeah dude i'm 1000 %DUDE......

post #28 of 31
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Originally Posted by i luvmusic 2 View Post

yeah dude i'm 1000 %DUDE......

Then you get the colorful story,  Although it depends on what you like as well, I found she works better with a Solid State than a Tube, as the cheaper tubes make her too fat. she loses a good bit of her quickness and punch. Not to mention a good solid state will still maintain her rather thick bottom end <3 while keeping the mids witha  delicate lush ness, and the treble will ofc be nice and airy! 

 

Granted out of the same solid state the Pro 250 and Pre 600 ohm will sound the same, although the Pre 600 has a few new tricks up her sleeve, and to fully enjoy them you really need to already know what you like about her, like me for example I like the quicker punchier tone and do not like pairing a tube amp with her so I'm going for balanced solid state a "dark" one at that. You how ever might like a little more lush of a sound and wouldn't mind taking a hit to some of the quick ness, so you might want to instead go with a balanced tube. Just get the Pro 250 ohm and play around with all kinds of differnt amps. Grab your self a tube amp like the Little Dot III or one Project Ember, some thing that has a lot of sonic options, so you can figure out what you like best! Then when you've found the sound you love with the Pro 250, aim for a higher priced and better quality amp that has that same sound, and then get and balance your whole system around that sound signiture 

post #29 of 31
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

Then you get the colorful story,  Although it depends on what you like as well, I found she works better with a Solid State than a Tube, as the cheaper tubes make her too fat. she loses a good bit of her quickness and punch. Not to mention a good solid state will still maintain her rather thick bottom end <3 while keeping the mids witha  delicate lush ness, and the treble will ofc be nice and airy! 

 

Granted out of the same solid state the Pro 250 and Pre 600 ohm will sound the same, although the Pre 600 has a few new tricks up her sleeve, and to fully enjoy them you really need to already know what you like about her, like me for example I like the quicker punchier tone and do not like pairing a tube amp with her so I'm going for balanced solid state a "dark" one at that. You how ever might like a little more lush of a sound and wouldn't mind taking a hit to some of the quick ness, so you might want to instead go with a balanced tube. Just get the Pro 250 ohm and play around with all kinds of differnt amps. Grab your self a tube amp like the Little Dot III or one Project Ember, some thing that has a lot of sonic options, so you can figure out what you like best! Then when you've found the sound you love with the Pro 250, aim for a higher priced and better quality amp that has that same sound, and then get and balance your whole system around that sound signiture 

thanks, i thought about buying the Little Dot III when i was looking at some tube amp online but i bought the Bravo instead.

post #30 of 31
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Originally Posted by i luvmusic 2 View Post

thanks, i thought about buying the Little Dot III when i was looking at some tube amp online but i bought the Bravo instead.

Those bravo tubes are nice starters, but the build on them is garbage still if you like how it sounds nothing wrong with that.  

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