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post #7981 of 18427
1.2.5fw has too much bass for me. IMO EQ kills the quality of a good sound. I'm only using EQ custom at all 0 just to neutralize the sound signature of the firmware (unamped/amped).

Rockit sounds R-50 also works perfectly with DX50. They're right. Using a 20ohm+ IEM works pretty well with this dap. I've read it somewhere in this thread.
Edited by cub0ne - 12/6/13 at 11:55am
post #7982 of 18427

Speaking as an audio engineer the EQ on the DX50 is slightly less than a joke. I have never even come close to hearing an EQ that is that  useless - On the positive side there is HUGE potential there!

(I was going to write there is huge potential for improvement but then thought there would have to be some function to begin with to improve upon!:)

 

Also - to be fair Im still on V1.2.3beta because the sound quality is perfect for me, Im getting VERY tired now of freezing and screens showing nothing

Come on iBasso PULL YOUR FINGERS OUT and stop taking the piss out of your comsumers and give us a working model which like with ALL products I buy I expect them to work

post #7983 of 18427
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Originally Posted by jon parker View Post
 

Speaking as an audio engineer the EQ on the DX50 is slightly less than a joke. I have never even come close to hearing an EQ that is that  useless - On the positive side there is HUGE potential there!

(I was going to write there is huge potential for improvement but then thought there would have to be some function to begin with to improve upon!:)

 

Also - to be fair Im still on V1.2.3beta because the sound quality is perfect for me, Im getting VERY tired now of freezing and screens showing nothing

Come on iBasso PULL YOUR FINGERS OUT and stop taking the piss out of your comsumers and give us a working model which like with ALL products I buy I expect them to work


Weird, considering i'm also an audio professional and i know about substractive EQ's... For me it works fine, as long as i know how it works and what it affects. It does have some improvement potential, like increasing the range (+6dB is too small) or maybe adding a few extra bands, but as it is works fine and it's not that much of a joke.

 

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Originally Posted by Cotnijoe View Post

Hmm think a lot of ppl said theirs dont... I dont think mine works either frown.gif so much sadness

 

Most people said they didn't noticed the EQ working, because it's not working as a regular EQ system (like the EQ on rockbox, or the presets on an iPod), and it does affect the sound slightly for my taste, but it does help to reduce some shortcomings from matching certaing headphones with the DX50. I barely touch it though, just have a few modified setups, but i mainly play with the gain switch and volumes... To see how the EQ affects the sound, you need to compensate with volume, around 3 to 5 steps of volume should give you the +6dB that the EQ takes out when it's turned on.

post #7984 of 18427

@kukyo - well alright I confess to being fond of parametric EQ :) but seriously think what your saying...of course YOU know  subtractive EQ - Im talking about the device globally as well - how many 'regular' people will know how it works and how to use it properly. people shouldn't have to possess a certain skill set to know how to use a simple EQ!.... is more my point [insert smiley face here to show Im not having a go!] 

Most regular people will expect - increase bass = bass increasing etc etc

 

Anyway, it SHOULD be working as a regular EQ system because most people are regular people who are used to using a regular EQ

 

I myself also don't use the EQ as [unusually perhaps] i find the device to be so good sounding I never feel the need to touch the EQ. . .  But i wish it worked...regularly

Im just pissed off in general of having a device that works maybe 40 - 50% of the time. I have got over the fact that I was an un-asked for and unwilling beta tester but now I just want it to work.

They have had enough time now. Yes they are polite etc etc but Im fed up with this Brilliant sounding but useless brick of unuseability


Edited by jon parker - 12/6/13 at 1:24pm
post #7985 of 18427
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They have had enough time now. Yes they are polite etc etc but Im fed up with this Brilliant sounding but useless brick of unuseability

I push the play button and music comes out of my headphones or speakers. I push it again and the music stops. I push the volume up and down buttons and the music gets louder and quieter. I push the forward and backward buttons and the music skips forward and backward. As a consumer level music player I suggest that it is quite usable.

 

If you're looking for pro audio then I suggest that you look elsewhere.

post #7986 of 18427
I am listening now again and again to DX50 amped and pure, spinning old blues back and forth.
One obvious conclusion which pops up IMHO is that iBasso skimped on amp section, really plugging a good amp into line out immediately opens up stage and adds good amount of air and black space between notes. I find phone out for IEMs dirty and that downs stage and thins out some fine detail and dynamic. Do not get me wrong, DX50 is good DAP and is a keeper IMHO, but why iBasso did not put amp section more in order is beyond me, i guess a few right turns there and this player could become a killer deal even for most demanding audiophile.

I hope iBasso listens to us and takes a note. Perhaps time for Vinnie to deliver Red Wine Mod??? wink.gif
post #7987 of 18427
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Originally Posted by ratinox View Post
 

I push the play button and music comes out of my headphones or speakers. I push it again and the music stops. I push the volume up and down buttons and the music gets louder and quieter. I push the forward and backward buttons and the music skips forward and backward. As a consumer level music player I suggest that it is quite usable.

 

If you're looking for pro audio then I suggest that you look elsewhere.

Lucky you then

Im making the point that many people are having problems with freezing / blank screens / having to reset

post #7988 of 18427
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

...why iBasso did not put amp section more in order is beyond me, i guess a few right turns there and this player could become a killer deal even for most demanding audiophile.
 

 

Actually the reason is quite simple:  $239

post #7989 of 18427
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Originally Posted by burtomr View Post

Actually the reason is quite simple:  $239

Yah explains everything
post #7990 of 18427
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Originally Posted by cub0ne View Post

Yah explains everything

not right, 239$ does not mean they had to risk the reputation they won with dx100, i rather see that they rushed the product and cut a few corners down the road.
what i like is line out well implemented and amped lifts dx50 stratospheric for the money IMHO. so stand alone dx50 is nice but some will tell you they heard better, but amped line out this baby becomes a beast.

what bothers me adding amp kills portability on this, so was there purpose or a few good tweaks can clean a bit amp section from noise??? I am tech ignorant so no opinion from me how to ...
post #7991 of 18427
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Originally Posted by Gintaras View Post

not right, 239$ does not mean they had to risk the reputation they won with dx100, i rather see that they rushed the product and cut a few corners down the road.
what i like is line out well implemented and amped lifts dx50 stratospheric for the money IMHO. so stand alone dx50 is nice but some will tell you they heard better, but amped line out this baby becomes a beast.

what bothers me adding amp kills portability on this, so was there purpose or a few good tweaks can clean a bit amp section from noise??? I am tech ignorant so no opinion from me how to ...

To be honest I'm happy with my DX50. No issues at all. Not really a perfect dap for me but still one of the best dap at it's price.

Adding an amp really boost up the sound quality since the LO delivers a very clear sound. Your totally right it kills the portability. I have a C&C BH2. A pretty small powerful amp but I only pair it with my DX50 when I'm at home.
Edited by cub0ne - 12/6/13 at 3:03pm
post #7992 of 18427
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Originally Posted by jon parker View Post

Lucky you then
Im making the point that many people are having problems with freezing / blank screens / having to reset

You might want to upgrade to a non-beta firmware, mate wink.gif
post #7993 of 18427
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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post


You might want to upgrade to a non-beta firmware, mate wink.gif

haha, well yes but even the latest update wasn't problem free :(

Sadly, I really didn't like the sound of 1.2.5!

 In the immortal words of Bart Simpson "Doomed if you do, doomed if you dont" :D

post #7994 of 18427
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Originally Posted by jon parker View Post
 

@kukyo - well alright I confess to being fond of parametric EQ :) but seriously think what your saying...of course YOU know  subtractive EQ - Im talking about the device globally as well - how many 'regular' people will know how it works and how to use it properly. people shouldn't have to possess a certain skill set to know how to use a simple EQ!.... is more my point [insert smiley face here to show Im not having a go!] 

Most regular people will expect - increase bass = bass increasing etc etc

 

Anyway, it SHOULD be working as a regular EQ system because most people are regular people who are used to using a regular EQ

 

I myself also don't use the EQ as [unusually perhaps] i find the device to be so good sounding I never feel the need to touch the EQ. . .  But i wish it worked...regularly

Im just pissed off in general of having a device that works maybe 40 - 50% of the time. I have got over the fact that I was an un-asked for and unwilling beta tester but now I just want it to work.

They have had enough time now. Yes they are polite etc etc but Im fed up with this Brilliant sounding but useless brick of unuseability


I think that's your main problem, you're a little biased because all of the issues you're having, but you said it yourself: you're still using a beta firmware, just because you liked the sound quality. My DAP has worked flawlessly since the first time i got it (i think mine is 2nd or 3rd batch, though it came with 1.1.0). The only times that i had issues with freezes, i wasn't even using it (a couple of meets where people were trying it out), and the rest of the issues i had, had been going away since i like to keep it updated. A couple hundred pages back on this thread, someone posted that the EQ was actually a subtractive EQ instead of an additive EQ. Before that, i tried it and didn't liked it that much (the Classic preset was the best one from the lot), i actually i still barely use it, since i just switch headphones for a different EQ (that's the whole point of having multiple headphones, isn't it?).

 

It does have a lot of room for improvement, i can agree with you on that, and there still are have some minor issues, i have a few with some gapless songs (mostly NIN). But so far i found that it is a decent player for the amount of money i paid for it. I also agree that it's a weird move to use a sustractive EQ instead of just a regular EQ, but then again, i don't think this DAP is for regular people, or at least i'd like to think that. It's an audiophile DAP, so i think the target audience might be different. I might be wrong though...


Edited by Kukyo - 12/6/13 at 4:03pm
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Where do u find 1.2.5? When i looked for updates the most recent one i saw was 1.2.2
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