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post #3736 of 15914
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Originally Posted by nihontoman View Post
 

Me neither but I won't protest... X3 was also buggy at first, it is still buggy in some instances, but they not only solved lots of problems, they also added features. don't let iBasso think that only solving bugs is sufficient for good sales.


I also purchased X3 from China when it was first released. If I compare the overall experience, DX50 issues are way more serious. Some of the issue still persist in DX50 like long file/track names causing the DAP freezes. Sometimes, I have to remove the battery because the screen becomes unresponsive.  Most of my listening is done when commuting to/from work, like 45 minutes each trip...Having to reset when on the road makes this device a killjoy... I have five microsd card to use between these players.. all the tracks play fine on X3 but some files still cause system freeze on DX50...it makes me to use the X3 most of the time...

 

as a consumer like you, I also wish they can do USB DAC but just that learn how to walk before you run.

post #3737 of 15914
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Originally Posted by CosmicHolyGhost View Post
 


I also purchased X3 from China when it was first released. If I compare the overall experience, DX50 issues are way more serious. Some of the issue still persist in DX50 like long file/track names causing the DAP freezes. Sometimes, I have to remove the battery because the screen becomes unresponsive.  Most of my listening is done when commuting to/from work, like 45 minutes each trip...Having to reset when on the road makes this device a killjoy... I have five microsd card to use between these players.. all the tracks play fine on X3 but some files still cause system freeze on DX50...it makes me to use the X3 most of the time...

 

as a consumer like you, I also wish they can do USB DAC but just that learn how to walk before you run.

Thanks for the feedback on real-world use of the two devices! :beerchug: 

post #3738 of 15914

I'm curious to know what kind of issues CopyInOrder would cause.  I use it all the time without any issues.  It's been a nice little utility.

post #3739 of 15914
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Originally Posted by Howlin Fester View Post
 

@Marleybob217.  Can you elaborate on this a little?  I  have copied all of my FLAC-16/44 files with CopyInOrder to the microSD card and have not run into scanning issues yet.  I eject my card from the player and use the uSD to SD adapter and a port on the front of my PC tower.  I did it this morning before work.  I select the artist folders and It copied 6 albums in a couple of minutes.  

When I put the uSD card in the player, it flashed scanning for a hot second and went to the initial screen to choose scan card or search music.  I chose scan card.  It scanned for maybe 15 to 20 seconds, and then finished.  When I looked at my artists directory, all the artists showed up, and I checked 4 of the 6 albums, and all the files were there in order.

I've done the copy in order process about 4 times total without incident for about 20G of FLAC on a 64G card.  I have not truncated any file names yet.  Everything ripped from CD with dB Poweramp.

 

What are the maps you mention?  I'm not familiar.  Are those MP3s that got auto-type-corrected?  If so, that could be a difference than FLAC.  But I wouldn't think so.

Are you copying directly to the SD card while still installed in the DX-50?  If so, that could be a difference as well.  I have never done that method yet.

 

Also agree about the FW v1.2.  For the way I use it, I have not experienced significant issues.  I only play whole albums that I ripped from redbook standard with dB poweramp and copied with CopyInOrder.

Ok, here are the specifics:

I keep my music in this folder structure: Artist folder -> Albums -> music files of different data types.
I use a 32GB SD card in fat32 format, and used a seperate card reader to connect to the pc. 
When I copied the files in order, I obviously copied the exact same files, in the exact same file structure as I did with the normal copying. 
The only difference (that I know of), was that once I copied the files with copyinorder, the ibasso stopped scanning the files after about 3 folder/artists. So when I would browse music on artist, I would only see 3-4 artists.

When I deleted everything from the SD card, and copied it the normal way, the player worked fine again!


Edited by Marleybob217 - 10/10/13 at 8:44am
post #3740 of 15914
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Originally Posted by Sorensiim View Post
 

 

 

I've loaded 64gigs of music onto my card using CopyInOrder and everything just works?

Yes I am!

I'm just saying, if you player isn't properly reading the artists, you might want to copy the files on the SD card the standard way.

post #3741 of 15914
Thread Starter 
sympathize with everyone having to rename files for the sake of a dap, this is truly not a long term solution by any stretch. I use this dap on the commute and at work to really kick the tires. So far I have not had to reset the unit at all and it's been days. I also use it at home and do not have to do much except for turning it on and select what I wanna play. Once the file issue is going to be fixed that'll score high in enjoying the player and hopefully decrease the amount of complaints from first time users. What I am looking for is enjoyment and desirable functionality and definitively stop talking about the same old bugs that don't get fixed.

By the way even with my scrutinized file truncation activities, I still experience scanning when turning on the dap. I thought this would end when everything got scanned the first time. I also keep the sleep timer to never, that seems to be a sure way to always start where you I left off. The only draw back is it depletes the battery faster.
post #3742 of 15914

Hi Folks

 

Just wondering as I see people mentioning issues with long tags on your music while using the dx50..Is there any particular format which is best to use with the dx50? Im going about getting my flac library into shape before I receive my order...

 

Cheers

post #3743 of 15914
I have retagged nothing and all that works for me.
post #3744 of 15914
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Originally Posted by rookie2009 View Post
 

Hi Folks

 

Just wondering as I see people mentioning issues with long tags on your music while using the dx50..Is there any particular format which is best to use with the dx50? Im going about getting my flac library into shape before I receive my order...

 

Cheers

I use all FLAC, spent a couple of days cleaning tags and adding/formatting artwork prior to getting the DAP, no real issues to speak of. Everything works as expected.

post #3745 of 15914

Ok thanks guys,I guess Il worry about tags etc after I have it,Im due one from the next batch on the 23rd so I should have lots of questions for you guys then lol

post #3746 of 15914
Thread Starter 
I had issues at the very beginning and also after some firmware updates manifesting as long scanning sessions and not all album being picked up not to mention tunes no playing, hang ups, etc... so very early on I retagged and renamed files using mp3tag and it got very stable since. Sure I can go back and see if everything got fixed but don't want to spend that time reloading gb of music files. The truth of the matter is I got burned enough that a little cleaning before slapping tunes on the dap is a little time invested to enjoy the player.
post #3747 of 15914

anyone using macbook pro to sorting your music?

post #3748 of 15914
"H20Fidelity"


I think the DX50 sounds good with the right pairing, but there's four things it could improve on imo.


1) Air in the upper mid range

2) Soundstage width

3) Coherency when songs get busy

4) Instrument separation.

 
[/quote]

I'd add 2 more items for improvement:
1) low volume performance: the sound falls apart at lower volumes with all my HPs
2) 3d texturing: probably asking too much out of $200 device, but although I get some texturing, it is too subdued and distant to be as involving and emotional as even my cheaper c3/bh2 combo.
post #3749 of 15914
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Originally Posted by pnix View Post
 

first comes the development then come the tests, then it is documented and placed on the market.

a finished product with documentation, which uniquely identifies the product and clearly describes the function.

With the introduction of DX50 that was not so, and I said it was intentional.

 

By the way, a development without documentation is not complete and faulty.

 

No, first, Steve Jobs greenlighted the project... LOL.

 

I have to laugh. People have a funny way of thinking about how business works. Even big companies that produce things like broadcast equipment, computer products and factory instrumentation are bounded by financial constraints. In the real world, you get equipment all the time with incomplete or non-existant documentation, non-implimented features, unexpected bugs and unintuitive or non-typical operation. At some point, the business side of things says "ship it" and, to stay profitably in business, you ship it!

 

The Fiio and the Ibasso were both shipped, by that standard, incomplete, I guess. But they are the new vanguard, hi-rez, high sonic performance, low price, and, in the case of the Ibasso thus far, highly expandable storage music players. I am glad they exist, even with a few rough edges. It seems like both companies are sanding them down and that's all I ask...

 

Kevin

post #3750 of 15914
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Originally Posted by k3oxkjo View Post
 

 

No, first, Steve Jobs greenlighted the project... LOL.

 

I have to laugh. People have a funny way of thinking about how business works. Even big companies that produce things like broadcast equipment, computer products and factory instrumentation are bounded by financial constraints. In the real world, you get equipment all the time with incomplete or non-existant documentation, non-implimented features, unexpected bugs and unintuitive or non-typical operation. At some point, the business side of things says "ship it" and, to stay profitably in business, you ship it!

 

The Fiio and the Ibasso were both shipped, by that standard, incomplete, I guess. But they are the new vanguard, hi-rez, high sonic performance, low price, and, in the case of the Ibasso thus far, highly expandable storage music players. I am glad they exist, even with a few rough edges. It seems like both companies are sanding them down and that's all I ask...

 

Kevin

I agree.

 

The firmware of the iBasso DX50 might not be bug free, but it does what it is supposed to do. It plays music. If all else fails, the directory browsing of the SD card works absolutely perfect. Actually, you don't get anything more with hisoundaudio players, and people seem to be ok about it. 

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