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Originally Posted by medmitry View Post

 
so 1.1.0 and 1.2.0 have two differences:
1. rockbox PCM initialization params are same as Mango(it provides more sound details, the difference is subtle, same as iir_bandwidth for example. so I don't wanna discuss this with "direct-DAC" guys. it's annoying smily_headphones1.gif ).
That`s good.
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2. rolloff_speed set to "slow", so the sound become less "tight". (this was hardcoded in 1.2.0 firmware, 1.1.0 was "fast" but see below)
Great, I`ve always used slow roll-off.

Just to be clear - RSU 1.0.0 is based on official 1.6 firmware? RSU 1.1.0 & 1.2.0 are based on official 1.2.0 ? If so, then going to try RSU 1.0.0 and 1.2.0 sometime soon. 
I`m guessing RSU 1.2.0 will be better because I liked SUEX 1.2.0 sound. Still, despite RSU using pre-installed theme, I`m not sure if I`m going to like UI more than Mango but we`ll see wink.gif
When he said "this was hardcoded in 1.2.0 firmware" I'm pretty sure he means Rockbox 1.2.0, not SUEX. If you saw him say somewhere else that it was based off of SU EX then let me know! Because that was my favorite sounding firmware BY FAR! smily_headphones1.gif
post #16217 of 16225
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Originally Posted by CoiL View Post

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Originally Posted by medmitry View Post

 
so 1.1.0 and 1.2.0 have two differences:
1. rockbox PCM initialization params are same as Mango(it provides more sound details, the difference is subtle, same as iir_bandwidth for example. so I don't wanna discuss this with "direct-DAC" guys. it's annoying smily_headphones1.gif ).
That`s good.
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2. rolloff_speed set to "slow", so the sound become less "tight". (this was hardcoded in 1.2.0 firmware, 1.1.0 was "fast" but see below)
Great, I`ve always used slow roll-off.

Just to be clear - RSU 1.0.0 is based on official 1.6 firmware? RSU 1.1.0 & 1.2.0 are based on official 1.2.0 ? If so, then going to try RSU 1.0.0 and 1.2.0 sometime soon. 
I`m guessing RSU 1.2.0 will be better because I liked SUEX 1.2.0 sound. Still, despite RSU using pre-installed theme, I`m not sure if I`m going to like UI more than Mango but we`ll see wink.gif
Rockbox is definitely not as east to use because the UI isn't labeled. What I mean is it doesn't tell you where to go to navigate to different parts of the UI when you are on the Now Playing screen. There are a plethora of themes you can download, but Mango will always be easier to use. I mainly use Rockbox for its Replaygain capabilities.
post #16218 of 16225
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Originally Posted by medmitry View Post
 

so 1.1.0 and 1.2.0 have two differences:

1. rockbox PCM initialization params are same as Mango(it provides more sound details, the difference is subtle, same as iir_bandwidth for example. so I don't wanna discuss this with "direct-DAC" guys. it's annoying :) ).

2. rolloff_speed set to "slow", so the sound become less "tight". (this was hardcoded in 1.2.0 firmware, 1.1.0 was "fast" but see below)

 

 

anyway you could download this rockbox update(1.2.1) - https://mega.co.nz/#!LcE0gQQT!ACiWGUwu9aDbgR83JEUcU4Hrj1H5o8Cu5ciUvtKnR8E

and you be able to choose the rolloff speed "Settings -> Sound Settings -> Roll-off speed -> Slow/Fast"

 

This update can applied for any RSU version.

 

This rockbox build includes changes provided by ArgelErx(code reorganization, most of patches for DX50), Cholero (modern ui).

Since I have 1.1.0 I can just replace the files in my Rockbox folder, correct?

post #16219 of 16225
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Originally Posted by 7S Cameron View Post


What I mean is it doesn't tell you where to go to navigate to different parts of the UI when you are on the Now Playing screen.

See the information about pre-installed theme - http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=2172&target=cowond2

For a start you only need return to the main menu, so you can touch the top of the screen OR use long-press PLAY button.

 

 

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Since I have 1.1.0 I can just replace the files in my Rockbox folder, correct?

yep

post #16220 of 16225
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Originally Posted by CoiL View Post
 

Great, I`ve always used slow roll-off.

 

Sorry, but an original firmware has "fake" DF option :) It doesn't work. It works only on DX90 platform. (MangoPlayer is "shared" between platforms)


Edited by medmitry - Today at 12:50 am
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What do You mean about original firmware? I thought with SU it has always been working... or not? I compared this setting with older SU as I remember and then there seemed to be difference (very little though). Anyway, since that setting made no clearly noticeable difference, I have been using it all the time @ slow roll-off. Haven`t tested it with last SU firmwares.

But if You say that it is only enabled in this new RSU 1.2.0 and no earlier SU versions, then I probably had pseudo-effect.

Can You clarify what SU versions have it truly enabled so I could test it out?


Edited by CoiL - Today at 1:57 am
post #16222 of 16225
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Originally Posted by medmitry View Post

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Originally Posted by 7S Cameron View Post

What I mean is it doesn't tell you where to go to navigate to different parts of the UI when you are on the Now Playing screen.
See the information about pre-installed theme - http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=2172&target=cowond2
For a start you only need return to the main menu, so you can touch the top of the screen OR use long-press PLAY button.

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Since I have 1.1.0 I can just replace the files in my Rockbox folder, correct?
yep
I know how to navigate the UI. I was mostly saying that for everyone who was confused on the use of it :P
post #16223 of 16225
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Originally Posted by CoiL View Post

What do You mean about original firmware? I thought with SU it has always been working... or not? I compared this setting with older SU as I remember and then there seemed to be difference (very little though). Anyway, since that setting made no clearly noticeable difference, I have been using it all the time @ slow roll-off. Haven`t tested it with last SU firmwares.
But if You say that it is only enabled in this new RSU 1.2.0 and no earlier SU versions, then I probably had pseudo-effect.
Can You clarify what SU versions have it truly enabled so I could test it out?
I'm pretty sure he means original Rockbox.
post #16224 of 16225
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Originally Posted by 7S Cameron View Post


I know how to navigate the UI. I was mostly saying that for everyone who was confused on the use of it :P

oh sorry :) , "Every rockbox newbie should see the information about .. " and so on.

 

 

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Originally Posted by CoiL View Post
 

What do You mean about original firmware?

Any stock original firmware doesn't have an implementation for the DF on DX50 platform. SU is based on the original firmware. So..

 

We already could see this through reading  MangoPlayer code source, but any programmer can trace MangoPlayer to prove it in another way. I did it, btw.

post #16225 of 16225

medmitry, thanks for answer. Now it is clear that any SU firmware or stock firmware does not have this DF option enabled/working. That`s what I was assuming and that`s why I didn`t hear clear difference between those options, so, I admit that it was just pseudo effect :o Any chance You could enable this in SU 1.3.3 ? PLEASE? :biggrin: 

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