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Originally Posted by CosmicHolyGhost View Post

you can also consider E12DIY amp from Fiio, just read the first and the last few pages as in btw is all about pre-order chatter

http://www.head-fi.org/t/674808/fiio-e12diy-limited-edition-version-updated-on-6-9-can-balance-the-payment-right-now/510

a few head-fiers are getting good result from this combo, but my wallets is hurting from purchasing more and more opamps

Very interesting link. Thanks. I am getting tempted again -smily_headphones1.gif

Actually,I wasn't aware of the Muses OPamps - they would seem to be building a reputation ......

As MUSES01 & MUSES02 are each dual amps, that would rule out the Leckerton, but not the D12. As far as voltage goes, it would seem that only the MUSES02 would be compatible.

That seems a more likely purchase. biggrin.gif
post #9767 of 14396
Happy New year all!
I dislike the sound of the new Firmware so much that I went back to 1.2.6 that has a much more open and detailed listening experience. I tried all my different headphone's and experienced the same narrow cluttered sound stage. I certainly hope that now that most of the features are working properly Ibasso does not keep this sound signature in future Firmware updates. The player is still buggy when it comes to using the player as a portable device. Every time I take it out and walk around with it in my pocket just the slightest tug on the headphone connection crashes the player. this happens frequently. Just my 2 cents.


Regards
Jeff
post #9768 of 14396
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Originally Posted by alan_g View Post

ok guys i have a small problem which is driving me nuts, i downloaded a few albums from band camp which didn't show up on my sd card(tagging issue) but it won't allow me to delete the empty folders from the card(I'm on a mac) anyone had this problem and know how to remedy it?  thanks

Are you using a card reader when editing your SD card? If you're editing with the card in the DX50, perhaps try a card reader. I've sucessfully deleted from the card with the DX50 hooked up USB but generally don't due to the slower upload speeds.

I too downloaded a few albums from Bandcamp yesterday via Mac. Easy site to download from. I, however, download as ALAC and import into iTunes. It's the iTunes folders that I copy onto my SD card. All tags and album art are as they should be and work just fine with the DX50.
Edited by FlyinMN - 1/2/14 at 2:53pm
post #9769 of 14396
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Originally Posted by PhotoHead View Post

Everything I have read has told me that ALAC (Apple Lossless) is sonically identical to FLAC.  Since the DX50 supports ALAC files, I have started encoding in iTunes using Apple Lossless and stopped worrying.  Very liberating, although I'm sure there will be comments about the comfort of my chains, etc...
+1 my life is easy with ALAC and iTunes for managing my music. No tagging or artwork problems with the DX50. More time to spend obsessing of the the next set of headphones. smily_headphones1.gif
post #9770 of 14396
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Originally Posted by TheMaestro335 View Post

Happy New year all!
I dislike the sound of the new Firmware so much that I went back to 1.2.6 that has a much more open and detailed listening experience. I tried all my different headphone's and experienced the same narrow cluttered sound stage. I certainly hope that now that most of the features are working properly Ibasso does not keep this sound signature in future Firmware updates. The player is still buggy when it comes to using the player as a portable device. Every time I take it out and walk around with it in my pocket just the slightest tug on the headphone connection crashes the player. this happens frequently. Just my 2 cents.


Regards
Jeff

 

Happy New Year!
I have difficulty believing that the sound signature can change so much from one version of the firmware to the other. I've always thought that firmware revisions were essentially aimed at solving or improving UI or peripheral-related issues, e.g. reading/recording media, implementing features like DSL, etc. Has someone got a confirmation from a DAP manufacturer or designer that firmware revisions actually change the sound signature? When I read the iBasso firmware notes, I don't see any mention about that.
 
Best regards,
 
Nitreb
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FW Update Sound Changes

 

For those that missed it a few pages back, it seems that iBasso haven't been deliberately making any changes to the sound itself:

(I had requested that we could have the different sound signatures that some of us have been experiencing as presets so we could choose)

 

Hi,

Thank you for your email.
Did you notice that each time you update the firmware on your other digital audio devices or install a new soundcard driver on your computer, the sound changed?
That is the some reason for why slight changes on the sound signature of the DX50 after firmware update.
We found that each time we made changes on the decoding library, the sound would change slightly.  It isnt like pre-set EQ, which can be customized.
 
Sincerely
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Edit: Jon parker beat me to it! ^^^
Edited by MCImes - 1/2/14 at 4:35pm
post #9773 of 14396
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Originally Posted by jon parker View Post
 

FW Update Sound Changes

 

For those that missed it a few pages back, it seems that iBasso haven't been deliberately making any changes to the sound itself:

(I had requested that we could have the different sound signatures that some of us have been experiencing as presets so we could choose)

 

Hi,

Thank you for your email.
Did you notice that each time you update the firmware on your other digital audio devices or install a new soundcard driver on your computer, the sound changed?
That is the some reason for why slight changes on the sound signature of the DX50 after firmware update.
We found that each time we made changes on the decoding library, the sound would change slightly.  It isnt like pre-set EQ, which can be customized.
 
Sincerely

 

Hi there,

 

No, I missed that post while perusing through the thread. I guess the key element is "slight change" ;-)

 

Thanks!

 

Nitreb

post #9774 of 14396
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Originally Posted by Nitreb View Post


Hello Nitreb,
Do you own a DX50? There are deffinitely big differences. I have to say I have only downloaded 3 firmware versions because I have only had the player for about 2 weeks and it came with 1.2.6. 1.2.2, deffinitely has the best overall sound. Huge airy sound stage with lots of depth, but the players functions are BUGGY to say the least. 1.2.6 has a nice wide deep soundstage Very detailed. After hearing these versions 1.2.7 sounds very cluttered and less detailed than the other updates. I also have to say that it seems that most of the owners on this thread use the player with other hardware, Amp's and DACs, etc.... I use the player with the HP out only. So like I said in my previous post this is just my 2 cents.

Regards
Jeff
post #9775 of 14396
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Originally Posted by Varoudis View Post

PS: i bet this is the first time in this forum that someone accepts that the problem he was hearing was actually neural network malfunction smily_headphones1.gif
Not the first. Perception is entirely between one's ears. I've known that for a long time.

Have you ever misheard or misinterpreted a lyric? That's because your brain "edits" the incoming neurological signals and inserts whatever is necessary for it to match what you expect to hear. The more that you focus on that misheard lyric the more firmly entrenched the misinterpretation becomes.

A more practical example, I think, is covers. Cover versions of songs that I like often sound wrong to me. Instruments are different, vocals are different, tempos are different, rhythms are different. Everything is different and it sometimes drives me batty. Exceptions are things like tribute albums where I expect everything to be different, and I occasionally find a cover that's better than the original (Big Country's cover of "Hey Hey, My My" comes to mind).

I figure that most of what is "wrong" with the version 1.2.7 sound signature is this effect. If you're accustomed to version 1.2.2 then anything different sounds wrong to you. The more that you focus on that wrongness, the more wrong it becomes in your mind to the point where some of you have suggested that 1.2.7 is so bad that you can't stand to listen to it. To which I say this:

Relax. Install v1.2.7 on your DX50. Put it in a drawer. Use a Sansa Clip or Fuze with Rockbox for a while. Charge up the DX50 after a week and be amazed at how good it sounds.
post #9776 of 14396
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Originally Posted by jamato8 View Post
 

Normally if a lot of EQ is needed, there is something wrong in the audio chain. I don't use it at all. I want to hear the recording and if it was done wrong, or my phones are bass heavy, light or I like bass heavy, then I change something but not normally EQ but in practice, I  keep everything pretty neutral so if the sound is off, then it is the chain and not a need for EQ. Having said that, I tried EQ and it seems to work fine as does the rest of FW 1.2.7. 


+1 EQ works fine as long as you take to to find out how it works properly on DX50. I don't use it normally as well other than a few times when I just need to fix the frequency response of a badly recorded track.

post #9777 of 14396
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Originally Posted by TheMaestro335 View Post


Hello Nitreb,
Do you own a DX50? There are deffinitely big differences. I have to say I have only downloaded 3 firmware versions because I have only had the player for about 2 weeks and it came with 1.2.6. 1.2.2, deffinitely has the best overall sound. Huge airy sound stage with lots of depth, but the players functions are BUGGY to say the least. 1.2.6 has a nice wide deep soundstage Very detailed. After hearing these versions 1.2.7 sounds very cluttered and less detailed than the other updates. I also have to say that it seems that most of the owners on this thread use the player with other hardware, Amp's and DACs, etc.... I use the player with the HP out only. So like I said in my previous post this is just my 2 cents.

Regards
Jeff

 

Hi Jeff,

 

No, I don't have a DX50 at the moment, but I may buy one in the near future; that's why I've been looking at this thread lately. Although I'll admit the possibility of small changes in sound signature because of codec variations from firmware to firmware versions, I'm still skeptical regarding significant changes - of course, "small" and "significant" can have varying meaning depending on people. I'm currently using a Clip Zip and I made two firmware changes so far if my memory is correct - It always sounded the same to me.

 

Regards,

 

Nitreb

post #9778 of 14396
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Originally Posted by jon parker View Post
 

FW Update Sound Changes

 

For those that missed it a few pages back, it seems that iBasso haven't been deliberately making any changes to the sound itself:

(I had requested that we could have the different sound signatures that some of us have been experiencing as presets so we could choose)

 

Hi,

Thank you for your email.
Did you notice that each time you update the firmware on your other digital audio devices or install a new soundcard driver on your computer, the sound changed?
That is the some reason for why slight changes on the sound signature of the DX50 after firmware update.
We found that each time we made changes on the decoding library, the sound would change slightly.  It isnt like pre-set EQ, which can be customized.
 
Sincerely


This seems highly unlikely to me.  There are significant changes in the sound of the player from firmware version to firmware version.  I'm pretty convinced that the entire sound of the DX50 is the result of some pretty heavy DSP processing.  Isn't it possible that the guy who answers the emails at iBasso has no idea what the programmers are doing? 

post #9779 of 14396
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Originally Posted by revolutionz View Post
 

So, I think I stumbled upon the perfect case for my DX50+Shadow stack today, and would also work very well for a DX50 on its own.  It is a case made by Pelican, model 1010.  It has a rubber sleeve inside that the DX50 just sits right in with no movement, and the lid has a layer of foam padding on top.  They also make a model with a  clear cover, but no foam on the underside of the lid.  Here are some pics, and best part is it was only $10!

I got the 1040 as it fits my dx50, Leckerton UHA760, and my CIEM's all I the same case!!!  It has a rubber liner and you can get the foam insert to customize it.


Still have to do the foam bit, though.

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How mych was the 1040?
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