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post #1501 of 14767
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Originally Posted by ExpatinJapan View Post
 

So whats the verdict?

 

From peoples (early impressions) I gather in terms of sound quality (not counting, build or UI).

 

Hifiman-901

DX100

DX50/AK120

RWAK100

AK100

Fiio X3

 

ipod/cowon/sansa clip etc

 

*Tera player omitted.

______________________________

 

The above list is not an accurate list, but is gathered from various DX50 and X3 posts.

 

*Please order the Daps in order of preference.

*Only include Daps you have actually listened to.

 

*include any extra information you feel is relevant.

 

and

Thanks.

 

You may already got everything in order. :wink_face:

 

Shamefully, I only auditioned ipod (aka diyimod) and a Cowon J3. To these ears my diyimod with my favorite caps and lod sounds way better than the J3, the two not in the same league. That's really off topic here.

 

Musicheaven initially reported his diyimod sounded better than the DX50, but I am not sure if he has reversed his opinion by now. Icefalkon reported his DX50 sounded better than his RWA iMod.

 

Keep in mind all these mods were not done exactly the same so it's hard to say all the mods are equal ( and I doubt about that).

 

I am interested in the DX50 only for two reasons 1) being curious 2) potential for diy mod at this price tag.

 

 

post #1502 of 14767
Quote:
Originally Posted by ExpatinJapan View Post
 

So whats the verdict?

 

From peoples (early impressions) I gather in terms of sound quality (not counting, build or UI).

 

Hifiman-901

DX100

DX50/AK120

RWAK100

AK100

Fiio X3

 

ipod/cowon/sansa clip etc

 

*Tera player omitted.

______________________________

 

The above list is not an accurate list, but is gathered from various DX50 and X3 posts.

 

*Please order the Daps in order of preference.

*Only include Daps you have actually listened to.

 

*include any extra information you feel is relevant.

 

and

Thanks.

 

That order mirror my personal preference on SQ mainly driving the 1plus2/tg334 (and HM901 is with the balanced amp card, regardless of running SE or balanced cable).  RWAK100 excluded as I never owned it and only demo/trial it in various occasion.  

 

Pretty sure other IEMs pairing may result in different opinions.  

post #1503 of 14767
Quote:
Originally Posted by ExpatinJapan View Post
 

So whats the verdict?

 

From peoples (early impressions) I gather in terms of sound quality (not counting, build or UI).

 

Hifiman-901

DX100

DX50/AK120

RWAK100

AK100

Fiio X3

 

ipod/cowon/sansa clip etc

 

*Tera player omitted.

______________________________

 

The above list is not an accurate list, but is gathered from various DX50 and X3 posts.

 

*Please order the Daps in order of preference.

*Only include Daps you have actually listened to.

 

*include any extra information you feel is relevant.

 

and

Thanks.

 

I would think and hope that at it's price, the AK120 sounds better than the DX50. 

post #1504 of 14767
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Originally Posted by Jpfe8851 View Post



I don't think it's quite that simple. They are both very good. But right now, I'm still leaning toward my AK100, admittedly one of Vinnie's. Then there is firmware version. Just about everyone has an opinion on which FW is best on the AK, Listrid or iRiver's? And then there is the commentary already over the DX50 1.0 or 1.1.5? Anyone with a DX100 will tell you they have a favourite FW sound.

I think the right answer is more like... "The one you like best"...

PS I think we are all in the honeymoon period with our DX50s. Even if the UI is driving me nuts, I am enjoying trying out with various phones and IEMs. I think I'm a way of deciding whether it's a keeper.

 

 

101% agrees with you, Jpfe8851. i'm also leaning towards my AK100 at the moment.

 

But who knows? DX50 may even come out with a firmware that could eventually beat the AK100 in terms of sound presentation/signature. Also, i feel that the DX50 at this moment is still a caged beast; it would eventually be unleashed when the key arrives :D

 

And yes, i'm talking about possible "mods" such as firmware or hardware mod.

 

 

 

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by ExpatinJapan View Post
 

So whats the verdict?

 

From peoples (early impressions) I gather in terms of sound quality (not counting, build or UI).

 

Hifiman-901

DX100

DX50/AK120

RWAK100

AK100

Fiio X3

 

ipod/cowon/sansa clip etc

 

*Tera player omitted.

______________________________

 

The above list is not an accurate list, but is gathered from various DX50 and X3 posts.

 

*Please order the Daps in order of preference.

*Only include Daps you have actually listened to.

 

*include any extra information you feel is relevant.

 

and

Thanks.

 

 

1. AK120

2. AK100

3. RWAK100 / DX100

4, DX50 / Colorfly C4

5. Cowon J3

6. Sansa Clip Zip

7. Fiio X3

 

I have not heard the HM901, so i can't rank it into my list.

post #1505 of 14767

From what I've heard it goes

HDP-R10

DX100

RWAK100

DX50 

X3

The RWAK100 is only a bit better. 

post #1506 of 14767
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Originally Posted by Fatalethal View Post


101% agrees with you, Jpfe8851. i'm also leaning towards my AK100 at the moment.

But who knows? DX50 may even come out with a firmware that could eventually beat the AK100 in terms of sound presentation/signature. Also, i feel that the DX50 at this moment is still a caged beast; it would eventually be unleashed when the key arrives biggrin.gif

And yes, i'm talking about possible "mods" such as firmware or hardware mod.







1. AK120
2. AK100
3. RWAK100 / DX100
4, DX50 / Colorfly C4
5. Cowon J3
6. Sansa Clip Zip
7. Fiio X3

I have not heard the HM901, so i can't rank it into my list.

You ranked stock ak100 ahead of rwak100 and dx100?
post #1507 of 14767
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Originally Posted by Levanter View Post


You ranked stock ak100 ahead of rwak100 and dx100?

 

I don't think the AK100 is good at all...

post #1508 of 14767
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Originally Posted by Levanter View Post


You ranked stock ak100 ahead of rwak100 and dx100?

 

yeeeeeaaaaa.... you didn't read it wrong, nor did i make a mistake.

 

ok, another controversial statement to make.. but my AK100 Gold sounds better than Black (don't ask me why, i cannot give any specific reason/s to that. Only people who have heard my Gold would understand where I was coming from, and eventually starts scratching their heads).

 

to be honest, i've gotten many responses from either fellow hobbyist or close friends who questioned me, why i would like the AK100 more than DX100?

 

Like what Jpfe8851 said, ""The one you like best"...". so in terms of sound presentation and signature, AK100 appeals to me more than DX100, as of now.

 

 

BUT, if it was back in 2010/2011, and say if the AK100/120 and DX50/100 was launched at that point of time, i could easily close my eyes and take out my wallet and pay for DX100 and DX50 respectively. iBasso, without a single doubt, really did a very good job in designing the circuitry and taking advantage of the DAC via the amp implementation. Till today, I could not deny the fact that DX100 is really an good player; i could not find any fault with how the music is presented.

 

Back then, my objective of music presentation is no different from how the DX100 can deliver; powerful, dynamic, clean, reference sounding, linear, clinical, yada yada. But now, I would choose a music presentation that is much more relaxing, smooth, warmth, natural, which the AK100/120 can deliver.

Also, i'm currently doing a small personal research study on music therapy, and so far i felt for my case as an individual/client, that the music presentation of the AK100/120 fits me best.

 

 

well back to topic, RWAK100 is indeed good sounding as well, but i find it sounds abit too overly-aggressive to my liking when i start playing oldies on the player itself. thats y i rank the RWAK100 below my AK100.


Edited by Fatalethal - 9/15/13 at 4:34am
post #1509 of 14767
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Originally Posted by lin0003 View Post

From what I've heard it goes
HDP-R10
DX100
RWAK100
DX50 
X3
The RWAK100 is only a bit better. 
+1

Except I've not heard the HDP-R10 but by all accounts it ranks ahead of the DX100.

It's also many months since I heard a stock AK100 but I would probably list it between the X3 and DX50 so long as your not listening through lower impedance BA IEMs. And I would place my Walkman Z-1070 in this list too so long as its with lower impedance fairly easy to drive phones.

My list...
DX100
RWAK100=~DX50 
AK100
WM Z-1070 (Japanese version)
X3
post #1510 of 14767

my ranking would be

 

1. AK120/DX100

2. DX50

3. AK100/X3

4. Walkman F

5. Cowon J3

6. Sansa Clip

post #1511 of 14767
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Originally Posted by Fatalethal View Post
 

 

ok, another controversial statement to make.. but my AK100 Gold sounds better than Black .......

 

Well I had the pleasure to meet James Lee himself at the HK AV Show who confirmed they are they same design electronically or mechanically... including the silver and the red wine color version.  But this is not news as it was confirmed some time earlier by the iriver rep JmoonAK on the AK100 thread.

 

And of course you knew this already and I respect your rights to believe what you hear.


Edited by kkcc - 9/15/13 at 4:54am
post #1512 of 14767
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Originally Posted by chiman View Post


Good read thanks. What class is your sd card?
Also anyone tried different classes and brands to see how long the DX500 takes to scan?

 

Good point, I just realized that my card is a class 4 with its amazing 4mb read/write speeds. It wasn't much of a problem when I used it with my Fuze, but I guess I'll have to buy a new card now!

post #1513 of 14767
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Originally Posted by kkcc View Post
 

 

Well I had the pleasure to meet James Lee himself at the HK AV Show who confirmed they are they same design electronically or mechanically... including the silver and the red wine color version.  But this is not news as it was confirmed some time earlier by the iriver rep JmoonAK on the AK100 thread.

 

And of course you knew this already and I respect your rights to believe what you hear.

 

 

Well, as long as we (as hobbyist, enthusiasts or audiophiles) achieve our primary goal of 'perfection' in each individual's personal conceptualisation, it's pretty much the end of the journey.

 

And I respect the inputs that has been made in this heaad-fi community.

 

 

 

Back to topic, I have already ordered the DX50 (as a backup player / mod) and now to await for it's arrival. :D

post #1514 of 14767

Here is my review on Russian language

http://zenitplusmusic.blogspot.com/

post #1515 of 14767
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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post

 The first thing I would do in that situation is try a battery pull. (remove the battery and reinsert it)
Did several battery pull but still no joy frown.gif
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