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post #14191 of 15019
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Sounds fair :) Main point - you should choose FW that fit to you.

About "pristine iciness of the original sound", it's better to say "iciness of the sound of the 1.5.0. stock firmware" :)

For me bass, mids, treble are more separated, more airy.

And I agree with you, some ears can be tired, need an adaptation, 1-2 days :)

 

BTW, did you choose comfort volume level? I usually reduce volume level on the SU. (stock - 200 ~ SU 190, mid gain, for example).

Thanks for your opinion!

 

SU just a proof of concept that software tweaks hide WM8740 potential. That's all :)

Totally agree re firmware fitting the person.  Just as eq is a personal thing.  

 

"pristine iciness of the original sound" referred to the actual recorded sound created by Steely Dan, not necessarily to the method of playback.  Aja was recorded in such a way, and mixed in such a way, that it sounds incredibly clean no matter what you play it on/with (to a point, of course).  I used that album as a test because there are no issues with the mix.

 

Yes, as I said, I thought it was a bit of a wider soundstage.  There seemed to be a lot more instrumental activity going on at a more noticeable level (pulled out of the mix).  It may be that after a few days that affect would become "normal" and not be so tiring.  To me, with my older ears, it just seemed a bit too active.  

 

As I use an amp, I also think that what I was hearing would most likely be different (and perhaps less "tiring") if I was using just the DX50's amp through HO.

 

Again, my comments were not meant as a critique of your work.  I appreciate your efforts, and that you are doing them for no charge.  

post #14192 of 15019

Hi,

just to make it clear (to me)... when I'm jumping from one firmware to another aside Settings--->Advanced--->System update and Factory Reset, do I need to do something extra in order to truly enjoy the firmware I'm testing? 

post #14193 of 15019
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SU just a proof of concept that software tweaks hide WM8740 potential. That's all :)

dm1try thank you for your great work - now DX50 with SU is challenging DX90. I think with full exhaust potential of WM8740 there will be no difference like night and day.

Have you ever compared the sound quality after the tweak with DX90?

Is it possible to have gapless implementation for losless only?

 

Regards,

Trebor

post #14194 of 15019
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by MusicFiMan View Post

Hi,
just to make it clear (to me)... when I'm jumping from one firmware to another aside Settings--->Advanced--->System update and Factory Reset, do I need to do something extra in order to truly enjoy the firmware I'm testing? 

The only thing left, if you use library browsing, is to initially scan the library, I believe the library list gets deleted when you firmware upgrade and factory reset.
post #14195 of 15019

Guys, which You find better with SU1.2.2 - lossless only + irr bandwidth or without irr bandwidth? 

Also, did You get USB DAC function working with SU1.2.2 ? Can`t get drivers to work under Windows 7 x64 ;S

Didn`t try original 1.5.0 FW from ibasso though. Maybe with SU1.2.2 lossless only and irr bandwidth must be disabled to get USB-DAC function working? Will test more...

 

So far I like SU1.2.2 most with my Fidelio X1, sounds better than stock 1.2.8. More separation, clearer and tighter & fuller bass/kick.

But will test more FW`s and share impressions soon.

post #14196 of 15019
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Originally Posted by olddude View Post
 

Totally agree re firmware fitting the person.  Just as eq is a personal thing.  

 

"pristine iciness of the original sound" referred to the actual recorded sound created by Steely Dan, not necessarily to the method of playback.  Aja was recorded in such a way, and mixed in such a way, that it sounds incredibly clean no matter what you play it on/with (to a point, of course).  I used that album as a test because there are no issues with the mix.

 

Yes, as I said, I thought it was a bit of a wider soundstage.  There seemed to be a lot more instrumental activity going on at a more noticeable level (pulled out of the mix).  It may be that after a few days that affect would become "normal" and not be so tiring.  To me, with my older ears, it just seemed a bit too active.  

 

As I use an amp, I also think that what I was hearing would most likely be different (and perhaps less "tiring") if I was using just the DX50's amp through HO.

 

Again, my comments were not meant as a critique of your work.  I appreciate your efforts, and that you are doing them for no charge.  


I totally agree with the difference between the original iBasso 1.5.0 FW and SU 1.2.2 that you describe.

 

SU sounds great with Sony MH1c and Creative EP-830 but is tiring with the VSonic GR07 MkII and the HiFiMan ER-400.

 

Would you care to try DOC's "Pure Sound V3" https://mega.co.nz/#!OtRU0TpT!sgoCHPQPpwf2IoHtz7DaUaqViOCv51pwOwCtUQJ2KcE and give us a short feedback on how it works with your combo? I am asking as it is supposed to be even easier sounding than even the original 1.5.0 and with more "valve-like" sonic character.

 

Cheers!

post #14197 of 15019
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Originally Posted by CoiL View Post
 

Guys, which You find better with SU1.2.2 - lossless only + irr bandwidth or without irr bandwidth? 

Also, did You get USB DAC function working with SU1.2.2 ? Can`t get drivers to work under Windows 7 x64 ;S

Didn`t try original 1.5.0 FW from ibasso though. Maybe with SU1.2.2 lossless only and irr bandwidth must be disabled to get USB-DAC function working? Will test more...

 

So far I like SU1.2.2 most with my Fidelio X1, sounds better than stock 1.2.8. More separation, clearer and tighter & fuller bass/kick.

But will test more FW`s and share impressions soon.


I find SU sounding at its best with the following settings: - Lossless only checked, - Irr bandwidth checked, - Slow Roll-off Digital Filter, - Amp set to Mid-gain.

 

I find the SU FW and Sony MH1c IEMs highly synergistic/compatible.

 

That's just my personal preference of course.


Edited by Yanec - 7/14/14 at 1:24pm
post #14198 of 15019
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Originally Posted by MusicFiMan View Post
 

Hi,

just to make it clear (to me)... when I'm jumping from one firmware to another aside Settings--->Advanced--->System update and Factory Reset, do I need to do something extra in order to truly enjoy the firmware I'm testing? 

After you do the update to a new FW, plug in your device and remove the Update.img.  Unplug it, then run Factory Reset. After that, Rescan your SD Card. (BTW, I always remove my SD Card before doing an update.)  Then go into settings and reset your prefs (Play Order, Gapless, Power Saver, etc.).     Also note that your volume will have been turned way down on the DX50.  Put it back where you want it (I use an amp which calls for full 255 volume).  That's all you need to do each time.  

post #14199 of 15019
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Originally Posted by CoiL View Post
 

Guys, which You find better with SU1.2.2 - lossless only + irr bandwidth or without irr bandwidth? 

Also, did You get USB DAC function working with SU1.2.2 ? Can`t get drivers to work under Windows 7 x64 ;S

Didn`t try original 1.5.0 FW from ibasso though. Maybe with SU1.2.2 lossless only and irr bandwidth must be disabled to get USB-DAC function working? Will test more...

 

So far I like SU1.2.2 most with my Fidelio X1, sounds better than stock 1.2.8. More separation, clearer and tighter & fuller bass/kick.

But will test more FW`s and share impressions soon.

Ok, tested stock 1.5.0 FW also and couldn`t get USB-DAC function working under Wx64 ;(

 

Soundwise, I think iBasso has nailed with 1.5.0 FW right on spot. Of course depends on synergy between cans and DX50 but it seems very good overall FW with different cans and genres.

I think SU1.2.2 was littlebit better (irr bandwith off sounded better for me btw) than 1.5.0 but difference isn`t huge. Of course I`m tired already and must do longer comparing. Just some initial impressions and lot of FW`s to test...

post #14200 of 15019
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Originally Posted by medmitry View Post
 

.wav files have no independent component, they should not be decoded as you may guess, but an information about sample rate, channels, etc is retrieved with help of FFmpeg component.

Sorry :)

 

O.K, thanks for reply.

 

What I would like to understand here is when (in Sound Unlocked) you select Lossless only how does the Flac file get to be read (and not .wav)? Is it because the FLAC file does not require FFMPEG at all in the player where as .wav relies on it?

 

What would be great is if somehow you can combine the Lossless quality setting for FLAC whilst retaining the ability to play the other file types.

 

As a side note is this sort of thing relevant on any level to your firmware exploits? It's to do with FFMPEG.

 

https://github.com/guardianproject/android-ffmpeg

post #14201 of 15019
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Originally Posted by CoiL View Post
 

Ok, tested stock 1.5.0 FW also and couldn`t get USB-DAC function working under Wx64 ;(

 

Soundwise, I think iBasso has nailed with 1.5.0 FW right on spot. Of course depends on synergy between cans and DX50 but it seems very good overall FW with different cans and genres.

I think SU1.2.2 was littlebit better (irr bandwith off sounded better for me btw) than 1.5.0 but difference isn`t huge. Of course I`m tired already and must do longer comparing. Just some initial impressions and lot of FW`s to test...

 

USB DAC working fine here with Factory 1.5.0 and Sound Unlocked 1.2.2 (yes, with lossless selected and without)on Windows 7 x64.

 

Driver was manually signed and Windows needs to be set to Test Mode for it to work.(google it)

 

The Driver is considered BETA version.


Edited by polyrhythm - 7/14/14 at 1:38pm
post #14202 of 15019

Weird, I also signed the driver but no luck ;(

post #14203 of 15019

That is strange (a little frustrating also). All I can say is it definitely works with the method I used (Driver Signature Overider Enforcement).

post #14204 of 15019

Yes, I used also DSEO 1.3b and turned off UAC and so on (I`ve done this before lot of times)... but this time no luck. Guess I have to do clean winnie-7-puhh install, maybe it will solve the problem. 15m coffee-break and we`ll see if it helps...

post #14205 of 15019
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Originally Posted by Yanec View Post
 


I totally agree with the difference between the original iBasso 1.5.0 FW and SU 1.2.2 that you describe.

 

SU sounds great with Sony MH1c and Creative EP-830 but is tiring with the VSonic GR07 MkII and the HiFiMan ER-400.

 

Would you care to try DOC's "Pure Sound V3" https://mega.co.nz/#!OtRU0TpT!sgoCHPQPpwf2IoHtz7DaUaqViOCv51pwOwCtUQJ2KcE and give us a short feedback on how it works with your combo? I am asking as it is supposed to be even easier sounding than even the original 1.5.0 and with more "valve-like" sonic character.

 

Cheers!

I just tried the above firmware using, again, Aja.  It's not much different from stock 1.5.0, soundstage didn't seem any wider.  What I did notice was a sort of lack of clarity in the middle of the soundstage.  Almost like the music was coming through a (very) thin sheet of fabric.  The edges seemed fine (slightly enhanced, perhaps) but the middle (imagine left ear/middle of head/right ear) seemed not as pristine.  I reinstalled 1.5.0 and that unclarity was gone.  

 

Again, I'm using a JDS Labs C5 amp and LO and that will change things compared to just listening through the HO of the DX50.  I really, from my point of view, think iBasso nailed it with this FW.

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