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post #31 of 57
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Originally Posted by Brooko View Post

Love my MKIV with the Beyers .....

 

Have you tube rolled much @TrollDragon?

 

I'm currently running e-h 6H30Pi gold pin power tubes, and I switch between Mullard M8100 and GEJAN 5654Ws for the drivers. 

It is a sweet little amp for sure, I wish it would have been closer to $2K though... I Jest... :)

 

I don't have the SE version but mine came with the 6H30Pi-EH power tubes anyway, they must have run out of the Soviet ones.

 

I have been living in the rolling thread the past while, those guys there are amazing and crazy. A really great and helpful crew to a new tube owner like myself.

 

I had the GE5654's as stock for the first month, they sounded good but I was missing a Bass presence that my little SS had, so I picked up a pair of NOS RCA 6BY6 Heptode's, put them straight without and straps and wow the Bass is back!

 

I am just loving this LD, this weekend I am looking to pick up some 6DT6's and some 6CS6's just to try. The rolling is cheap unless your looking for some top end EH90's which one has to keep a good eye on eBay for.

 

I'd like to pick up a spare set of power tubes, possibly the 6N30-DR Russian Super Tubes but they are scarce and not cheap.

 

Rolling is a lot of fun so far and I can see a collection of little bottles building down the road.

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post #32 of 57
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Nice nice, the LD SE is on my list [oh wait it's $409] too is it not. Well dang. I should just buy one of them used and move on with life LAWL

 

that said though I've got my eyes on a Used Dark Voice with TONS of tubes to roll, that should also work as well

 

Still gonna listen to the Beyers out of the Audio GD first b4 I decide to get a tube for em! The Audio GD is said to have a dark sound to it because of the higher quallity circuit work, something about [feed back] either way Curra has informed me that cheaper amps have some kind of feed back [or lack there of] that creates a "haze" in the mids. haze in my mind, means less attack and clarity with maybe a touch to much decay and a more dull tone, so the removal of the "haze" or a "dark" sounding amp might be just what I need for these Beyers, as they do not sound BAD at all, and the mids are nice! Something not nice enough, others OMG epic nice 

 

SO when I hear it, I'll decide if I need a tube at all :D, as for the most part, all of my cans like solid state. And the W1000x should NEVER be pair'd with a tube.... as with a tube it's got LESS detail than a K550  :O [ofc if you have one of them $1000 ish tubes it might get better] my point is the w1000x already has EPIC mids so uhh don't add to those mids or your going to lose some deatil [mind you my w1000x is modded ALOT for more clarity so stock is even worse with tubes I'd imagine] 

post #33 of 57

Hey Mshenay, which Audio-GD unit were you going to run with your DT880s?

post #34 of 57
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Hey Mshenay, which Audio-GD unit were you going to run with your DT880s?

10SE2

post #35 of 57

Just wanted to say I'm listening to my Beyerdynamic DT880 600Ohm's right now out of my Little Dot MKIII and the sound is remarkable. Finest sound I've heard on my headphone journey so far. Onkyo Integra DX-C606 as a source with Monster M1000 interconnects. I've replaced the stock power tubes with NOVOSIBIRSK Gold Grid and the driver tubes with Sylvania's. Right now I'm letting the Onk decide on which tracks to play on random between-

 

Bela Fleck - Flight of the Cosmic Hippo (incredible low frequencies on this disc)

Strunz & Farah - Heat of the Sun (Nothing is more beautiful than a guitar, save perhaps two)

Flim & the BB's - New Pants (great clean recording)

Lee Ritenour - Wes Bound (just magnificent music, first 3 tracks are fantastic)

Yucca Flats - Garden of Weeds - (everyone should hear this Mapleshade recording at least once)

 

I was thinking of getting a La Figaro 336C but wonder if it would sound better, any thoughts...

post #36 of 57

Same here, DT880 Pro's out of the Little Dot MK IV with 6BY6's and my selected mix of AC/DC sounds amazing!

post #37 of 57
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Originally Posted by CADCAM View Post

Just wanted to say I'm listening to my Beyerdynamic DT880 600Ohm's right now out of my Little Dot MKIII and the sound is remarkable. Finest sound I've heard on my headphone journey so far. Onkyo Integra DX-C606 as a source with Monster M1000 interconnects. I've replaced the stock power tubes with NOVOSIBIRSK Gold Grid and the driver tubes with Sylvania's. Right now I'm letting the Onk decide on which tracks to play on random between-

 

Bela Fleck - Flight of the Cosmic Hippo (incredible low frequencies on this disc)

Strunz & Farah - Heat of the Sun (Nothing is more beautiful than a guitar, save perhaps two)

Flim & the BB's - New Pants (great clean recording)

Lee Ritenour - Wes Bound (just magnificent music, first 3 tracks are fantastic)

Yucca Flats - Garden of Weeds - (everyone should hear this Mapleshade recording at least once)

 

I was thinking of getting a La Figaro 336C but wonder if it would sound better, any thoughts...

Again I would not know, but really Monster M1000 interconnectors lol, well hey man as long as you like buying cables for the same price of an amp xD [just picking on you]

 

Still I'm not to sure how much it would improve, also in your interested in that amp check this out 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/665088/aus-world-wide-darkvoice-336i-otl-amp-with-updated-tube-list

I offered him $300 for it, including shipping and all additional tubes, seems like a GREAT deal seeing as the amp cost about $300 new 

post #38 of 57
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

Again I would not know, but really Monster M1000 interconnectors lol, well hey man as long as you like buying cables for the same price of an amp xD [just picking on you]

 

Still I'm not to sure how much it would improve, also in your interested in that amp check this out 

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/665088/aus-world-wide-darkvoice-336i-otl-amp-with-updated-tube-list

I offered him $300 for it, including shipping and all additional tubes, seems like a GREAT deal seeing as the amp cost about $300 new 

These cables happen to be on loan from a friend and sound great but I don't think they were too expensive, they are quite old. Don't look in the closet though I have cables hanging in there like shirts!! I went through a phase with interconnects and purchased a few pairs ha ha...in the end I made my own using cable from Esoteric Audio and Eichmann Bullet Plugs.

 

 I did see that amp but the LF is a newer and supposedly a better version of that amp.

post #39 of 57

My biggest reservation with the La Figaro is the inside looks like it was made from parts you found in a bucket. Does anyone with some electrical experience have any comments on the build of this unit? The inside of the Little Dot looks light years better but I'm on a computer all day not a soldering iron.

post #40 of 57
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Originally Posted by CADCAM View Post

These cables happen to be on loan from a friend and sound great but I don't think they were too expensive, they are quite old. Don't look in the closet though I have cables hanging in there like shirts!! I went through a phase with interconnects and purchased a few pairs ha ha...in the end I made my own using cable from Esoteric Audio and Eichmann Bullet Plugs.

 

 I did see that amp but the LF is a newer and supposedly a better version of that amp.

Nice on making your own interconnects! 

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Originally Posted by CADCAM View Post

My biggest reservation with the La Figaro is the inside looks like it was made from parts you found in a bucket. Does anyone with some electrical experience have any comments on the build of this unit? The inside of the Little Dot looks light years better but I'm on a computer all day not a soldering iron.

Yea I wonder about that too my self

 

Although I've ditched the tube idea as honestly the Dt 880 sounds best with the genres I like it with. A tube MIGHT make it better for rock but I really don't need the beyers to do rock, when I have the w1000x

 

in addition I'm going to go portable with my Beyers again, Hm 801 and JDS Labs C5, and honestly the C5 has plenty of power to drive the Beyers well, based on my experince with my 250 ohm 990s, the C5 really only needed to b set to low gain, and the volume up about 30%, on high gain it should drive the beyers nice. My matrix I only have the 600 ohms set top 10gain, as 18 and 20 just... sound icky with em 

 

still though I think this would be the tube to go for them! http://www.head-fi.org/messages/messages/view/id/2098612/box/789818

 

Hopefully I won't go wacky and guy that AND the Audio GD AND the Hm 801 >.>, if I did I swear Murphy would drop kick me xD

post #41 of 57
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Originally Posted by CADCAM View Post

My biggest reservation with the La Figaro is the inside looks like it was made from parts you found in a bucket. Does anyone with some electrical experience have any comments on the build of this unit? The inside of the Little Dot looks light years better but I'm on a computer all day not a soldering iron.

 

I'll have to open my La Figaro this weekend and let you know if it looks like "parts from a bucket"!
post #42 of 57

I'm no electronics guy but the Little Dot looks better to me... but I would like someone who maybe works in the field or does allot of DIY to comment because sometimes looks can be deceiving. I love the looks of the La Figaro 336 (exterior)

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I'll have to open my La Figaro this weekend and let you know if it looks like "parts from a bucket"!

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post #43 of 57
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Originally Posted by CADCAM View Post

I'm no electronics guy but the Little Dot looks better to me... but I would like someone who maybe works in the field or does allot of DIY to comment because sometimes looks can be deceiving. I love the looks of the La Figaro 336 (exterior)

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Looks good enough to me 

post #44 of 57

They both use cheap as chips part.

 

The only difference in term of build is that one is point to point, the other is pcb. P2P is generally preferable to PCB, but that alone speaks nothing of quality - just that shoddy p2p wiring is easier to fix than shoddy pcb.

post #45 of 57
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They both use cheap as chips part.

 

The only difference in term of build is that one is point to point, the other is pcb. P2P is generally preferable to PCB, but that alone speaks nothing of quality - just that shoddy p2p wiring is easier to fix than shoddy pcb.

Oh yea, might just stick away from tubes for a while 

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