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My first Headphones to go with Xonar Essence STX max 150€

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 

Hello guys, 

 

I am looking for headphones to use with my computer. The headphones will be amplified by my "Asus Xonar Essence STX". 

 

I intent to use the headphones for the following:

 

  • Listening to music (mainly metal but also classic) (60%)
  • When playing PC games (40%)

 

To be honest, these will be my first "quality" headphones, so far I only used low budget gamer headsets (~30€). Maximum budget is 150€ with an emphasis on value for money - so just spending 100€ is an option!

 

I am thinking about going with an closed or half-open model. Upside for the half-open model from my perspective is that I could still hear the bell and I anticipate that a closed model could be uncomfy/make my ears too warm after a while.

 

I came across the Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro 80 Ohm which appear to be meeting my requirements, except for that they are entirely closed & at the upper end of my budget. 

 

Considering my AMP, requirements & preference for an half-open model as well as budget, would you happen to have any other recommendations for me?

From what I read in this forum, the DT 880 maybe would be a better choice for me (as they are half open) but are much more expensive.

Or isn't the difference between a closed and half-open model not that big of a deal and I should go with the DT 770?

 

Thanks in advance for any comments and advice!

 

Regards

 

Skilfing

post #2 of 13

What about the DT990?  I'm not sure if it's in your price range, but it should be close.

 

Open headphones will give you a larger sound stage at the price of some bass impact.  If the 770 is close to what you want, the 990 might fit the bill nicely.

 

You can get a B-stock pair for 138 Euro here:  http://www.thomann.de/gb/beyerdynamic_dt_990_pro_b_stock.htm

post #3 of 13
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Originally Posted by liquidzoo View Post

What about the DT990?  I'm not sure if it's in your price range, but it should be close.

 

Open headphones will give you a larger sound stage at the price of some bass impact.  If the 770 is close to what you want, the 990 might fit the bill nicely.

 

You can get a B-stock pair for 138 Euro here:  http://www.thomann.de/gb/beyerdynamic_dt_990_pro_b_stock.htm

+1 DT990

The DT990 is full bass and full treble. which slightly overshadows the mids, but the mids are clear.

Semi-open headphone output almost as much audio to a room as open headphones.

Are you in the same room with others, while using the headphones?

post #4 of 13
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the quick replies!

 

I will be using the headphones mainly in a separate room. Considering that soundstage appears to be a major criteria for gaming, open or semi-open headphones appear to be superior to closed models for me. Could open headphones become a problem when I am using a microphone? (e.g. with Teamspeak --> echo effect)

 

So yes, the DT990 sound like a fine choice. I might use the headphones with a laptop in the future (who knows) that's why I am struggling with 250ohm. The 32ohm version has a much higher price. Still, I consider the 990 one of the best options so far.

 

In another thread I came across the AKG K 240 (~90€) which is semi-open and apparently has a great soundstage. Maybe at this point I should add, that I will mainly be listening to MP3s with 128 - 196kbs - so not quite what people may call "high end quality". Considering this, can the AKG 240 be recommended? It would save me quite some money - what is the downside?

 

Are there better alternatives in the 80-100€ price range?

 

Hope to hear from you soon.

 

Skilfing

post #5 of 13

Where do you get your music from?

 

You are aware, that the semi-opens will let in a lot of sound, right? They don't isolate much at all, but they do generally leak a little less. Any open headphone will most likely not interfere with your mic at all.

 

Can't come up with the holy grail for you in your price range, but if you don't mind open headphones, the sony ma900 might be a choice?

post #6 of 13

The AKG K240 is a decent headphone.  I didn't care for the pads as much (and they weigh next to nothing it seems, which lead to sealing issues for me).  The velour pads on the DT series are far superior to the pleather pads on the AKGs (or ATH-M50s) IMO.

 

That said, I know that the velour pads on the AKG K240s totally kill the bass.

 

Having owned both, I prefer the DTs (though I have not owned the 990s...yet).

 

Since you have the STX, I would honestly go with the DT990s and save up for a FiiO E07K, E17, or iBasso D-Zero to use with your laptop and the headphones (or even something as simple as a Xonar U3, I've heard; though the latter will not allow you to take your headphones out with you).  Having an external DAC would be a huge benefit to a laptop, which very often have some of the worst sound output of anything out there (Macbooks may be the exception to this, though).

post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 

Thanks guys for all the valuable feedback & input so far.

 

After what I have heard, what it comes down to me for is the very personal decision of open vs. closed headphones, represented by DT770 vs. DT990. Does anybody own both models and can comment on whether the DT770 are less comfortable to wear / or create a lot of sweat?

 

I am very uncertain about open vs. closed, because the use case for me is not entirely clear. I want to play games and listen to music in my closed off room, which favors an open model. Yet on a train ride or in a shared room (which are not likely but possible use cases) the closed version would make more sense. And after all, headphones are supposed to isolate from the environment --> if that is not important, why not just get speakers for my closed off room? 

 

One last thing I am not entire sure about: ohm. You recommended the DT990 with 250ohm - would the same hold true for the DT770? From what I read, the 80 ohm "pro" version of the 770 family appears to be quite different from the 250ohm version. Less ohm would make the headphones more versatile at the cost of some (a small amount?) of sound quality. 

 

Regards

 

Skilfing

post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by Skilfing View Post

After what I have heard, what it comes down to me for is the very personal decision of open vs. closed headphones, represented by DT770 vs. DT990. Does anybody own both models and can comment on whether the DT770 are less comfortable to wear / or create a lot of sweat?

I am very uncertain about open vs. closed, because the use case for me is not entirely clear. I want to play games and listen to music in my closed off room, which favors an open model. Yet on a train ride or in a shared room (which are not likely but possible use cases) the closed version would make more sense. And after all, headphones are supposed to isolate from the environment --> if that is not important, why not just get speakers for my closed off room? 

One last thing I am not entire sure about: ohm. You recommended the DT990 with 250ohm - would the same hold true for the DT770? From what I read, the 80 ohm "pro" version of the 770 family appears to be quite different from the 250ohm version. Less ohm would make the headphones more versatile at the cost of some (a small amount?) of sound quality. 

DT770 Pro 80 or Pro 250 headphones would sound almost the same plugged into the Essence STX.

But get the DT990 for home use in a closed off room, open headphones offer better surround sound and produce less sweat around the ears.

 

Get separate headphones for portable use, up your budget a little and get the JVC HA-S400 headphones for portable use.

post #9 of 13

The dt770 is not so good for portable use without a portable amp anyway, since it is fairly inefficient and 80 ohm as well.

post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 

Thanks again for all the input!

 

I just ordered the DT 990 Pro 250ohm and am very much looking forward to them. 

 

I will get back to you in case I am unhappy with them ;-)

 

Regards

 

Skilfing

post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 

After my first day of using the phones, I am really pleased =)

 

First think I noticed was that I needed a longer cable, so I ordered that.

 

Now I am looking for stander to hold the headphones safely on my desk. There is no wall close to my desk, so it really needs to be a stander.

 

Do you happen to have a recommendation for a stable and cheap solution?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Skilfing

post #12 of 13

Nice!

post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by Skilfing View Post
 

After my first day of using the phones, I am really pleased =)

 

First think I noticed was that I needed a longer cable, so I ordered that.

 

Now I am looking for stander to hold the headphones safely on my desk. There is no wall close to my desk, so it really needs to be a stander.

 

Do you happen to have a recommendation for a stable and cheap solution?

 

Thanks in advance

 

Skilfing

 

Sure.  Check these out:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/249671/the-diy-headphone-stand-thread

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