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post #76 of 84
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Originally Posted by BenEnglish View Post
 

My computer is using HQPlayer to send DSD files (including PCM files converted on-the-fly to DSD) to the Schiit Loki DAC, then the Vali amp, and on to my HE-300s.  Like many posters, I consider the HE-300s to be a major bargain at $150.  I ran everything in stock configuration for a few weeks and liked the setup just fine.

 

Then I read about this mod, removing the felt.  I did it.  When I examined the felt, I certainly theorized that removing it would be a good thing.  Earlier posts to the effect of "No one would ever make speaker grills from this stuff" seemed spot-on to me.

 

I plugged everything back in and fired it up.  The results were severely disappointing.  I spent many hours listening and my initial inpressions were borne out - unwelcome sibilance, excess brightness and harshness.  I found listening sessions substantially more fatiguing, much more quickly.  Nevertheless, I ran this set-up for nearly a month, listening for hours every day.

 

Now I've put the felt back in.  The harshness is gone.  I can listen for longer without tiring.  What's really odd is that I am satisfied with the volume knob turned up less when the felt is present.

 

Maybe my ears are weird.  Maybe I just prefer a much darker overall sound than most folks.  Maybe I listen to crappy music that's recorded harshly and the darkenss of this setup is euphonically camaflouging upstream problems.  However, I don't think so.  I have some beautifully recorded DSD files of classical music that I like better, too, with the 'phones in their stock configuration.

 

Whatever the reason, I found this mod to be severely counter-productive for me.

 

 

I agree. My setup is very simple compared to yours, running the modded HE-300 through a FiiO E07K, but I also ended up fatigued after 30-60 mins of use. I did like some aspects of it, like the perception of a wider soundstage and a tad more clarity, but the harshness gave me headaches. I have to admit that I do personally prefer darker tones due to my sensitivity to sibilance, though. Grado lovers might find it more to their liking.

 

All in all, I'm very happy with the sound coming from the stock HE-300.


Edited by Kakuz - 1/1/14 at 2:52pm
post #77 of 84

Just did the mod and replaced the stock velours with some stock d2000 pads. Comfy and less itchy. The sound opened up a little but definitely isn't a night and day difference. Probably cause I'm not using velour anymore. 

post #78 of 84
Tried this little mod and sadly the massive drop in bass was not worth the clarity improvement.
post #79 of 84
Thread Starter 

I just obtained another pair of HE-300's at a ridiculous price, and did my aforementioned mods right away. Night and day difference. Gone is the dark, overly warm sound. Hello detail, better soundstage. The sonic veil is cleared away. I'll be trading out the pads for a set of Focus pads when they get here in a few days. The Focus pads are damn comfortable. I promise myself I won't sell these. But then again.....haha!

post #80 of 84
Thread Starter 

I went and quarter modded the felt and put the felt back. Darkness still removed but the mid bass is back up to where it should be. I've left 4 holes uncovered and that puts the bass right where I think it sounds the most balanced. As noted earlier is this string, opening more holes takes away bass, unlike Grado's where porting their drivers increases the bass.

 

These are fun headphones to mod and play with, and wow, even to listen to. Imagine that!

post #81 of 84

After doing the mod and plugging in my HE-300s my music is singing again.  Thanks everyone!

post #82 of 84
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Originally Posted by dwayniac View Post

If I knew that I wouldn't lose any bass,I would try that with my pair.



After letting them sit for well over a year because of a severed wire to a driver,I soldered it back to reexamined the 300. I still prefer the velour pads despite the fatigue I get and the custom cable I had made for it which I now use with my HE-500.

I still won't do the felt mod because if I want more treble,I would switch headphones. The one mod that I did do was to add blue tac to the inside where the baffle and cup come together,all the way around, to reduce vibrations. The bass is better in that sense.
post #83 of 84
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Originally Posted by dwayniac View Post


After letting them sit for well over a year because of a severed wire to a driver,I soldered it back to reexamined the 300. I still prefer the velour pads despite the fatigue I get and the custom cable I had made for it which I now use with my HE-500.

I still won't do the felt mod because if I want more treble,I would switch headphones. The one mod that I did do was to add blue tac to the inside where the baffle and cup come together,all the way around, to reduce vibrations. The bass is better in that sense.

 

I may have to try putting tack in mine as well. I took the felt off of the front of the driver. The bass did go down, but I enjoyed the better clarity. I put the felt behind the driver (it is kind of awkward to get it in there) and it made the bass a bit more impactful, but they sound a bit more closed than before.

post #84 of 84
I think that bass is not a strong characteristic of the 300. I thought it sounded better while controlling what bass it does have.
Edited by dwayniac - 6/4/15 at 4:29am
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