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post #46 of 78
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For $100, you might look into an e17 (ok so its $120). The digital eq would be nice to play with on the 300.

 

Would you consider the e17 better than the Dragonfly? I ask as I already have an e11 for as an amp for my iphone

post #47 of 78
I've never tried the Dragonfly, couldn't tell you.
post #48 of 78
Transformer I got my impression on post 43 in case you didn't spot it. I should add that it's with the felt mod and velour but I don't think that'd change the fact that it's underpowered.
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How do these sound straight out of the HiFimeDIY Async DAC?
post #49 of 78
I wonder if a jergpad style back-vent would help that hollow chamber sound with the pleathers. Might try it again with part of the pad lifted away from the driver.
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Hmm, removed the felt and replaced the pads with pleathers. I don't think the sound is to my liking... it makes the lower mid region sounds as if I'm listening in through a hollow chamber. It does clear up the treble but to the sacrifice of the pronounced lower mids.


Now with the velours the hollow chamber sound is gone. The darkness is gone as well with the treble being clear but the sound seems thinner vs with felt. Bass impact has also decreased with better control which I find favorable for classical music. This is sounding most neutral of the three setups (velour/felt vs pleather/no felt vs most neutral velour/no felt)

A lighter weight felt plus velours might just be a happy median of being on the dark side of neutral with a bit more bass impact.

I might try going back to stock with the felt and velours just to rule out burn-in but the phones have been getting music for about 48hrs prior to any modding
post #50 of 78
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A lighter weight felt plus velours might just be a happy median of being on the dark side of neutral with a bit more bass impact.
I said in another post that this is exactly how mine is setup, a thinner material works wonders. I have also ordered some new velours and pleathers. If the Modi/Vali makes the bass and midrange more present I'll be in love.
post #51 of 78
Found an old and thin sunglasses pouch/microfiber cleaning cloth. Should be a good median. I'm wondering if I should leave the back vent open, just noticed theres a port to the back of yhe driver just now.


Edited by Soundsgoodtome - 12/7/13 at 2:58pm
post #52 of 78
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Found an old and thin sunglasses pouch/microfiber cleaning cloth. Should be a good median. I'm wondering if I should leave the back vent open, just noticed theres a port to the back of yhe driver just now.

Initial impression with the microfiber:

The sound has indeed gone slightly to the warm side and a bit of bass boost but not quite as much as stock. It's a nice median between the treble clarity of no felt and with felt (just ever slightly leaning towards the warm side). This is through the E18, it should be a nice balance with the brighter Yulong D100 once I get home later tonight.

The amount of warmth gained is not proportionate to the amount of bass that's been gained however. There is more of a bass boost than there was an increase in warmth, which fine by me. Although now.... I wonder what leaving that back-vent port uncovered will do... maybe keep the bass boost down as with no felt and keep the warmth? If I ever get bored I might try it, until then: desired sound achieved.


Edited by Soundsgoodtome - 12/7/13 at 5:59pm
post #53 of 78
Microfiber cloth (non-weaved) worked great as well.
 
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I said in another post that this is exactly how mine is setup, a thinner material works wonders. I have also ordered some new velours and pleathers. If the Modi/Vali makes the bass and midrange more present I'll be in love.

Edited by Soundsgoodtome - 12/7/13 at 5:57pm
post #54 of 78

This is making me want to get an 300, I'm more of a ciem guy, but I do need a good midrange phone..

post #55 of 78
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Originally Posted by Soundsgoodtome View Post

Initial impression with the microfiber:


The sound has indeed gone slightly to the warm side and a bit of bass boost but not quite as much as stock. It's a nice median between the treble clarity of no felt and with felt (just ever slightly leaning towards the warm side). This is through the E18, it should be a nice balance with the brighter Yulong D100 once I get home later tonight.


The amount of warmth gained is not proportionate to the amount of bass that's been gained however. There is more of a bass boost than there was an increase in warmth, which fine by me. Although now.... I wonder what leaving that back-vent port uncovered will do... maybe keep the bass boost down as with no felt and keep the warmth? If I ever get bored I might try it, until then: desired sound achieved.
I just tried some microfiber and it sounds much warmer than my material. The material I'm using is similar to speaker cover. Do you plan on uncovering any bass ports?
post #56 of 78
I like it as is. I might try it down the road but the bass is still less than stock. I had a choice between 3 different microfiber cloths, this was considerably thinner than the Serengeti and Oakley ones. Holding it to a light, there's more light transmission than the stock felt. Not sure if thats a good way to compare when dealing with sound but figured it would.
post #57 of 78
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I like it as is. I might try it down the road but the bass is still less than stock. I had a choice between 3 different microfiber cloths, this was considerably thinner than the Serengeti and Oakley ones. Holding it to a light, there's more light transmission than the stock felt. Not sure if thats a good way to compare when dealing with sound but figured it would.
I had it backwards! I've been messing with taping the bass holes back up. I put tape on 7 holes like the new models and it is phenomenal! I removed the tape thinking bass bump but it is the complete opposite. Please don't remove the tape! Just change the felt to thinner material. I cannot wait to get these hooked up to the Modi/Vali.
post #58 of 78

Didn't realize you had the first version. Interesting.
 

 

I didn't cover mine with tape but just put the microfiber over it. Circled the port in green, so the 7 black tape are ports that have been covered. Even more interesting.  I was thinking that leaving it uncovered of felt/microfiber might lessen the bass a bit to make the phones more neutral but you say covering them increases bass. I may need to try uncovering some of the other ports to check it out.


Edited by Soundsgoodtome - 12/8/13 at 11:27pm
post #59 of 78
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Didn't realize you had the first version. Interesting.

 



I didn't cover mine with tape but just put the microfiber over it. Circled the port in green, so the 7 black tape are ports that have been covered. Even more interesting.  I was thinking that leaving it uncovered of felt/microfiber might lessen the bass a bit to make the phones more neutral but you say covering them increases bass. I may need to try uncovering some of the other ports to check it out.
I'm going to give it a few days, but I think I may uncover 1 or 2 holes. I'm not used to this much bass anymore. (Other than my M-100s) I feel like the soundstage closed a bit too. I wish Tyll cared about these enough to measure the differences with different holes taped like he did with that Grado mod shootout.
post #60 of 78

I have removed 1 piece of tape already, I'll probably remove another. There is just so much bass! I'm kind of addicted to the treble-licious sound it had with no tape.

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