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I really get confused !   

 

On one hand I read here that the NOTE 3 can stream 24/192 music WITHOUT Downsampling to a USB DAC using the Google play or Samsung Play software.... which is a VERY good news, but ...on the other hand I see here many people using USB AUDIO PLAYER PRO on the Note 3 to play High-Res files !!

 

So why do they use USB AUDIO PLAYER PRO is the Note 3 is supposed to natively play 24/192 ??

 

I plan to use a Note3 with the CHORD HUGO ....if I can play 24/192 bit-perfect.

 

please help


Edited by bmichels - 1/25/14 at 9:49am

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post #482 of 661
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Originally Posted by bmichels View Post

I really get confused !   

On one hand I read here that the NOTE 3 can stream 24/192 music WITHOUT Downsampling to a USB DAC using the Google play or Samsung Play software.... which is a VERY good news, but ...on the other hand I see here many people using USB AUDIO PLAYER PRO on the Note 3 to play High-Res files !!

So why do they use USB AUDIO PLAYER PRO is the Note 3 is supposed to natively play 24/192 ??

I plan to use a Note3 with the CHORD HUGO ....if I can play 24/192 bit-perfect.

please help

I do not know if it can stream via usb a 24/192 signal, as my dacs only go to 24/96. Are you perhaps thinking of the note 3 built in ability to play back 24/192 in its own headphone output? I do have 24/192 content and confirm that my stock Samsung music player does play it back with a "HD 24/192" logo in the corner of the screen.
I hook my HRT microstreamer via USB to my note 3, and when using any of the usual apps (Google play music, Samsung stock music player, poweramp), the output signal is a multiple of 48k no matter what. My 44.1 content is up sampled by Android to 48k, and my microstreamer 48k led illuminates. When I have 48k, I assume it is output as is since 48k lights up on the microstreamer. 88.2k, 96k, and 192k content all illuminate the 96k led of my microstreamer. So it resamples all signals to the nearest 48k denominator. Fyi, hrt microstreamer supports 16/24 bit, 32k, 44.1, 48, 88.2, and 96k.

Now, when I use usb audio player pro, that requests usb audio exclusive control. That will then output my files in original sample rate. 44.1k flac illuminates the 44.1k led on my microstreamer. Same 1:1 matching for my 48, 88.2, and 96k content illuminating the correct led on the microstreamer. 192k content downs to 96k obviously (max supported by hrt).

So for my locally stored files, I play thru UAPP for purity's sake, and when I want to stream music thru Google play music, I must settle for up sampling to 48k.

Hopefully that helps your analysis.

Edit: USA Verizon note 3 sm-n900v. Rooted with a themed rom (from based off stock rom tho, so not sure root state matters here).
Edited by kayza - 1/25/14 at 11:08am
post #483 of 661
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I do not know if it can stream via usb a 24/192 signal, as my dacs only go to 24/96. Are you perhaps thinking of the note 3 built in ability to play back 24/192 in its own headphone output? I do have 24/192 content and confirm that my stock Samsung music player does play it back with a "HD 24/192" logo in the corner of the screen.
I hook my HRT microstreamer via USB to my note 3, and when using any of the usual apps (Google play music, Samsung stock music player, poweramp), the output signal is a multiple of 48k no matter what. My 44.1 content is up sampled by Android to 48k, and my microstreamer 48k led illuminates. When I have 48k, I assume it is output as is since 48k lights up on the microstreamer. 88.2k, 96k, and 192k content all illuminate the 96k led of my microstreamer. So it resamples all signals to the nearest 48k denominator. Fyi, hrt microstreamer supports 16/24 bit, 32k, 44.1, 48, 88.2, and 96k.

Now, when I use usb audio player pro, that requests usb audio exclusive control. That will then output my files in original sample rate. 44.1k flac illuminates the 44.1k led on my microstreamer. Same 1:1 matching for my 48, 88.2, and 96k content illuminating the correct led on the microstreamer. 192k content downs to 96k obviously (max supported by hrt).

So for my locally stored files, I play thru UAPP for purity's sake, and when I want to stream music thru Google play music, I must settle for up sampling to 48k.

Hopefully that helps your analysis.

Edit: USA Verizon note 3 sm-n900v. Rooted with a themed rom (from based off stock rom tho, so not sure root state matters here).

Thanks a lot.  So, basically, with any player, it should be OK with 48, 92 & (may be) 192 mHz.  ;-)

 

But... The other question is : Does 24 bits file stay 24 bits or are they converted to 16 bits ???


Edited by bmichels - 1/25/14 at 12:04pm
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In Samsung's player and via USBAPP they will remain 24-bit (not sure about Google Music as I don't use it).
post #485 of 661
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Originally Posted by NZtechfreak View Post

In Samsung's player and via USBAPP they will remain 24-bit (not sure about Google Music as I don't use it).

what is " USBAPP " ?

post #486 of 661
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Originally Posted by bmichels View Post

what is " USBAPP " ?
USB audio player pro
post #487 of 661

So, if we all need USBAPP to get the most out of the Note3, then we need some more advanced graphical UI (with cover arts), and dynamic Playlists

 

 

Look at Calyx M DAP UI:

 

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In Calyx's playlist system, on the DAP, you can:

 

1 - Manage of dynamic playlists,  decide "play next", "play last"... 

2 - Change order of the songs inside a playlist by just dragging/sliding a song within the list (of the playlist). 

 

LOOK AT THIS DEMO OF CALYX UI !  Brillant !! This is what we all need implemented in USBAPP

 


Edited by bmichels - 2/7/14 at 7:11am
post #488 of 661

Hmm I just got a Note 3. It's not bad at all. 

I wonder if there are any audio tweaks like on note 2.

post #489 of 661

Ok, I've been listening to Note 3 for quite a while with Neutron Player.

Sounds like an improved Sansa for me. The Apple IPAD Air( I guess phone5s and pod5g sound the same) has better detail, imaging and better extended highs and with no signs of hiss trying with most sensitive IEMs.

But I can live with the smooth, warm and nonfatiguating sound of the Note 3. The sound is certainly good enough and very likeable. 

 

Note 2(rooted with voodoo) with Samsung has a bigger Soundstage and sounds more analytical, but the hiss with sensitive IEM's is big. Woudln't call the Note 3 a downgrade.

post #490 of 661

Has anyone tested  AirStash.that seems to be a "magic" solution to our Note3 storage issues ?

 

post #491 of 661
Lol note 3 and storage issue? I am happy with my 100gb.
But this product is really really interesting. I wonder about the battery life
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 I did some extensive testing for 3 days between both using my JH16, and I concluded , both have their weaknesses and strong points in SQ, but all I can say is that I kept the snapdragon version because it was able to run with almost all my dacs , where as the exynos was not.

 

This is my choice, and I am not saying the snapdragon is better in SQ.

 

Mind sharing where u got that cable from???

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Originally Posted by akash neagi View Post
 

Mind sharing where u got that cable from???

Toxic cables

post #494 of 661
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Originally Posted by turokrocks View Post
 

Toxic cables

I checked their website but couldn't find it...
Did you have them custom make it for you???

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Originally Posted by akash neagi View Post
 

I checked their website but couldn't find it...
Did you have them custom make it for you???

Yes:cool:.

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