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Excellent article. I really enjoyed reading it! I am only a young (20) member with only about a year's worth of experience but the first head-fi meet that I went to earlier this year was a great experience. I loved being able to interact with the vendors and try all sorts of different gear that I wouldn't be able to afford for years. I didn't get to chat with many members last meet cause I was more interested in the gear, but I have made a few friends through the forums here, and I hope to be able to meet more in person at the NYC head-fi meet next month.

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Excellent article. I really enjoyed reading it! I am only a young (20) member with only about a year's worth of experience but the first head-fi meet that I went to earlier this year was a great experience. I loved being able to interact with the vendors and try all sorts of different gear that I wouldn't be able to afford for years. I didn't get to chat with many members last meet cause I was more interested in the gear, but I have made a few friends through the forums here, and I hope to be able to meet more in person at the NYC head-fi meet next month.

Thanks for the kind words, and especially for taking the time to dig into it!

 

I just got home from CanJam - but loggin in real quick and seeing this message made my night.

 

Hey, being a native New Yorker - I wanna come out to an NYC meet as well.

post #123 of 147
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Seconded about Argyris' response. It brings to mind Chesky's Binaural Plus recordings which, if anything, really do feel like they are bringing you closer to the experience of the performance itself by removing that feeling of left-and-right that we try and ignore when listening with headphones.

YUP!

and because our brains know its left-and-right (hence stereo) it knows, even on a subconscious level, that what we're hearing is pieces of the whole puzzled together.

So, here we've managed to, in some small way, take the old school look at high fidelity (chasing the real event) and destroyed it.

 

After all, if you enjoy it, if it does something for you when you listen - isn't that what matters MOST?

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Excellent article. I really enjoyed reading it! I am only a young (20) member with only about a year's worth of experience but the first head-fi meet that I went to earlier this year was a great experience. I loved being able to interact with the vendors and try all sorts of different gear that I wouldn't be able to afford for years. I didn't get to chat with many members last meet cause I was more interested in the gear, but I have made a few friends through the forums here, and I hope to be able to meet more in person at the NYC head-fi meet next month.

I'm glad I hopped back into this stale thread for a moment - 

as I was reading your thoughtful response again, I realized that I touched on this part of the conversation:

 

That it's is about people just as much as gear in my recent CanJam coverage for Enjoy The Music.

Check out the LINK HERE

 

I get into the fact that I've met some friends, aquantances (SP? -doesn't come up-), in the high end audio community (even a few deep relationships)

but that some of my closest friends later in life actually came through this community!

 

and that says alot to me...

 

I've been craving that sensation for SO many years in high end audio!

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I'm glad I hopped back into this stale thread for a moment - 

as I was reading your thoughtful response again, I realized that I touched on this part of the conversation:

 

That it's is about people just as much as gear in my recent CanJam coverage for Enjoy The Music.

Check out the LINK HERE

 

I get into the fact that I've met some friends, aquantances (SP? -doesn't come up-), in the high end audio community (even a few deep relationships)

but that some of my closest friends later in life actually came through this community!

 

and that says alot to me...

 

I've been craving that sensation for SO many years in high end audio!


Indeed... and gear only helps with meeting people. People should be encouraged to bring their gear to meets if possible, as it facilitates more conversation and of course allows people to try out different things on their own setup.

 

The NYC meet is just this Saturday. The only thing I brought to the last meet were my Beyer T70s and overall I was just pretty shy since it was my first meet. But this time around, I'm bringing pretty much all of my gear. I hope people will enjoy what I bring to the met. Oh, and it would be nice to actually meet some local new yorkers too! I feel like new york audiophiles are kinda shy in general. I could never find people wearing decent headphones or IEMs in NYC.

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Indeed... and gear only helps with meeting people. People should be encouraged to bring their gear to meets if possible, as it facilitates more conversation and of course allows people to try out different things on their own setup.

 

The NYC meet is just this Saturday. The only thing I brought to the last meet were my Beyer T70s and overall I was just pretty shy since it was my first meet. But this time around, I'm bringing pretty much all of my gear. I hope people will enjoy what I bring to the met. Oh, and it would be nice to actually meet some local new yorkers too! I feel like new york audiophiles are kinda shy in general. I could never find people wearing decent headphones or IEMs in NYC.

I'm with ya!  I think Head-Fiers are encouraged to bring their rigs to the Meets, and it definately helps break the ica doesn't it?  Having something to show and talk about, listen to...

 

That's another thing the high end two-channel in-room world has been missing.  It's not anyone's fault or anything silly like that.  It's simply a matter of convenience!

I mean, in order to truly demo an amplifier, or a line-stage, cables, etc., one should have at least one familiar variable in the system they're auditioning!

 

But how often do people bring their own loudspeakers to a Hi-fi show??  NEVER.  I mean, who wants to carry the damn things!

And even if you did, who says the manufacturer (or manufacturer rep) is going to let you set-up your loudspeakers so you can judge the difference!

NOPE - I'm always amazed at all these audio writers who walk around judging the sonic merits of these Hi-fi systems in hotel rooms, when MOST of

the systems contain gear they've never heard before - in a room they've never been in before!!

 

How can you truly judge what's doing what??

 

That's why I always bring at least one pair of reference cans to ANY headphone show/event I attend where I'll be listening to new gear.

This year's CanJam was no exception.  I brought my own Audeze LCD-3's (my full review HERE btw) so I could audition DACs and amps

(and DAC/amps) with cans I know well.  

 

I LOVE that about this hobby/community!  

We can bring some of our favorite system elements with us!!

 

I went for it at the Headmasters Meet! And I had just moved back to Northern California merely two weeks before the show!!

I was proud of myself for preparing to lug all that gear to the Meet.  It was a big moves for us.  But, getting to hear all these different systems,

and bring the ALO Studio Six - what a sincere treat!!  Plus: Getting to hear all sorts of different cans on the Studio Six - yeah!!  And I didn't own

it at this point.  I had just reviewed it and wanted to share its glory with my brethren.  We threw a TON of headphones at the Six!!

This was a big factor in my decision to buy my review sample.  With that and my E.A.R HP4 tube headphone amp as my two top 

references, well, I'm ecstatic to say the least..

 

And while I'm thinkin' about it.  In cased you missed our in-depth, multi-person CanJam coverage in Audio360.org btw (my new site w/ my partners @warrenpchi & @HiFiGuy528

HERE IT IS!

 

what a BLAST!!

 

I wanted to spend even less time up in the hotel rooms this year!  But we had friends and we needed some hugs. 

My time up there shrinks as the years pass..

But, and I hate to sound like a broken record (mentioned this in my CanJam/RMAF report for Enjoy The Music) but

the playlist hasn't changed in 20 years!!!!  NO JOKE...

 

Light Harmonic's GEEK incited all sorts of silly listening faces...

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and when there aren't any large meets in your area, you can have a mini-meet !

another head fi'er (joedoe) and myself live about 70 miles from each other, and we're planning

a meet at my house to enjoy each others gear , me with my grado's, joe with his senns.

through in all our various dacs, amps, i'm sure we'll have a blast , all in northern alabama

WHO'D A THOUGHT IT !!

 

you don't see a lot of that in the "big hi fi" hobby

post #128 of 147

The canjam coverage was excellent. I looked through it sometime back when it was first posted. I've only just gotten my hd800s this monday and modded them with anax 2.0, so they will be my reference cans that I will bring to the meets. I just need to get more familiar with them first, but I only have a few days to do that before the meet! Damn school -_-. My balanced zu hd800 cable is coming today though, so I'll finally be able to do some real listening.

 

You make a very good point about loudspeaker rooms having all different components that the person auditioning has probably never even listened to before. And of course, it's very hard to just lug your own speaker setup to the meet.  

 

The NY meet only happens twice a year but I have two audiophile friends who go to the same college as I do. Whenever we need new gear, we just go over to each others rooms to play around with the new toys. It usually ends up being my room though, cause I end up spending the most money out of the three of us. xD. Unfortunately neither of them can make it to the meet with me due to work and exams :(. I do have one friend who is interested in hi-fi and enjoys listening to my setup, but doesn't have anything of his own. He and his friend will be driving me to the meet this weekend. It'll be their first head-fi meet, so I hope it'll be a great experience for them :D


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The canjam coverage was excellent. I looked through it sometime back when it was first posted. I've only just gotten my hd800s this monday and modded them with anax 2.0, so they will be my reference cans that I will bring to the meets. I just need to get more familiar with them first, but I only have a few days to do that before the meet! Damn school -_-. My balanced zu hd800 is coming today though, so I'll finally be able to do some real listening.

 

You make a very good point about loudspeaker rooms having all different components that the person auditioning has probably never even listened to before. And of course, it's very hard to just lug your own speaker setup to the meet.  

 

The NY meet only happens twice a year but I have two audiophile friends who go to the same college as I do. Whenever we need new gear, we just go over to each others rooms to play around with the new toys. It usually ends up being my room though, cause I end up spending the most money out of the three of us. xD. Unfortunately neither of them can make it to the meet with me due to work and exams :(. I do have one friend who is interested in hi-fi and enjoys listening to my setup, but doesn't have anything of his own. He and his friend will be driving me to the meet this weekend. It'll be their first head-fi meet, so I hope it'll be a great experience for them :D

 

Psyched you're goin to the NY meet! I'm a native New Yawker.  Been in Cali since 05 (my wifey is from here) but my boys @Frank I and @jude will be there!!

I hear its a KILLER meet - that the vibe is GREAT.

 

That's also good to hear about you and your college mates.  I know how that feels, when you're puttin' out for alot - but you're spreading the gospel of great sound!!

What could be better??

 

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and when there aren't any large meets in your area, you can have a mini-meet !

another head fi'er (joedoe) and myself live about 70 miles from each other, and we're planning

a meet at my house to enjoy each others gear , me with my grado's, joe with his senns.

through in all our various dacs, amps, i'm sure we'll have a blast , all in northern alabama

WHO'D A THOUGHT IT !!

 

you don't see a lot of that in the "big hi fi" hobby

Precisely!!

GREAT idea @jaywillin !!  We did the same w/ @warrenpchi @weirdfishes at our friend John's (forget his Head-Fi handle) place!

I got stacked up like I was goin to a Meet!  Put the Studio Six in one of my Pelican cases, MYTEK DAC, we all had dofferent cans,

it was a BLAST... John has his Stax 009/Wo Audio WES rig!!  We were swimmin' init!!!!  That's cool you're doin that.  Some pics from our sesh:

And hell no! You aren't packing your whole two-channel in-room reference system with you when you visit your buddy for that!!

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The canjam coverage was excellent. I looked through it sometime back when it was first posted. I've only just gotten my hd800s this monday and modded them with anax 2.0, so they will be my reference cans that I will bring to the meets. I just need to get more familiar with them first, but I only have a few days to do that before the meet! Damn school -_-. My balanced zu hd800 is coming today though, so I'll finally be able to do some real listening.

 

You make a very good point about loudspeaker rooms having all different components that the person auditioning has probably never even listened to before. And of course, it's very hard to just lug your own speaker setup to the meet.  

 

The NY meet only happens twice a year but I have two audiophile friends who go to the same college as I do. Whenever we need new gear, we just go over to each others rooms to play around with the new toys. It usually ends up being my room though, cause I end up spending the most money out of the three of us. xD. Unfortunately neither of them can make it to the meet with me due to work and exams :(. I do have one friend who is interested in hi-fi and enjoys listening to my setup, but doesn't have anything of his own. He and his friend will be driving me to the meet this weekend. It'll be their first head-fi meet, so I hope it'll be a great experience for them :D

and thanks for the positive words on the CJ report!!

post #131 of 147
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I'm torn on something:

 

I've been working on how to write my next OCCUPY HIFI piece without in being an indictment of anybody in particular,

but attending the LA OC Audio Society Gala in LA this weekend w/ @warrenpchi  - well:

 

This writer, from a major high end publication, one I have a history with, got up there to give a speech about "digital audio"

and the future, and he said so many things that weren't just uneducated opinions, he was flot-out WRONG!

 

He made generalizations like "SPDIF sounds better than USB" (when its the implementation that counts) and he spoke

about noise over USB, all these things that have been addressed starting at least five-sic years back!

 

He started to speak about "streaming" then went on to say there's sonic advantages to sending music over a network!

And he said he and his partner in this digital article couldn't "find a computer with both SPDIF and USB output" so they 

used an "old PC tower"

 

I mean, am I nuts?  Or is he so far behind he shouldn't be discussing digital audio and representing one of the top 

audiophile magazines?!?!

 

I'm SO glad I don't have to deal with that world anymore

post #132 of 147

Neo luddites to the fore.......

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Neo luddites to the fore.......

WELL SAID

post #134 of 147

I am more and more convinced that understanding technology or at the very least having basic computer knowledge is going to be very important in the world of audio reviewing from here on out. I have spent the last 18 years of my life in the high tech industry and keeping up with the technology even while helping develop it is the biggest hurdle to maintaining that career. As of the last 4 or 5 years I see that to be the case in high end audio as well. Technology is improving every day and if you blink you you may miss something huge. Having the ability to hear and write is no longer enough, you have to be able to learn and change.

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I am more and more convinced that understanding technology or at the very least having basic computer knowledge is going to be very important in the world of audio reviewing from here on out. I have spent the last 18 years of my life in the high tech industry and keeping up with the technology even while helping develop it is the biggest hurdle to maintaining that career. As of the last 4 or 5 years I see that to be the case in high end audio as well. Technology is improving every day and if you blink you you may miss something huge. Having the ability to hear and write is no longer enough, you have to be able to learn and change.

Precisely!

 

Here was this reviewer, whom I've known for MANY years, from a prestigious publication, and he just made them look completely out of touch!

Simply because he didn't do any research, and simply because he chose to make blanket statements.

 

I mean, talking about PC towers and USB "noise" TODAY?!?!?!

 

GEEZ

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