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post #2851 of 3290
I'd pay tops 150$ considering condition. Probably worth more, I'd say 200$
post #2852 of 3290
In that condition, I'd also say about $150. Should be less, but they are going for higher prices now.
post #2853 of 3290
Has anyone had to pay for a repair to 009's due to channel imbalance? I am after a guide on cost. Thanks.
post #2854 of 3290

Has anyone done testing wrt excursion, frequency response and distortion with varying volume? After all the low maximum excursion of 'stats is an issue wrt producing low bass, and it must be harder for the dirver at higher volumes.

post #2855 of 3290

Tyll et al have tested them at 90 and 100 dB...no major signs of spiked distortion.  If the drivers and amp/bias are all functioning properly distortion should never really be a problem, even at low frequencies.  In fact, they generally kill dynamic drivers in terms of bass and sub bass distortion, and the advantage becomes even greater at increased volume.  The FR also doesn't seem to change much...you will probably hear a difference naturally though due to Fletcher-Munson/loudness curves. 

post #2856 of 3290
I just wanted to know what planars have over stats in the bass, and thought to myself it might have to do with high tension and low excursion of the stat diaphragm.
post #2857 of 3290

Just go the 009s and going non-stop with the KGGShv. Now the light dawns about why things said about it are said indeed ! Time to shut up and go back to the music.

post #2858 of 3290
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post

Just go the 009s and going non-stop with the KGGShv. Now the light dawns about why things said about it are said indeed ! Time to shut up and go back to the music.

Yes I agree, but that costs a lot of money. It depends on the budget the guy has really. Maybe before the 'ultimate' Stax set-up were using the HD800s with a mid range dynamic amp, either with tubes or Solid State. Maybe that is best for mid budget, and the 009s with a DIY KGSShv or BHSE if more money?

The 007s are not half bad either, but need a good amp, the 717 at the very least. A second hand pair of 007s MK2s plus the 717 or a modded 727 could be had for around 3 - 4K US.

A new 009 plus a good DIY KGSShv would be double that.
post #2859 of 3290
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Originally Posted by astrostar59 View Post


Yes I agree, but that costs a lot of money. It depends on the budget the guy has really. Maybe before the 'ultimate' Stax set-up were using the HD800s with a mid range dynamic amp, either with tubes or Solid State. Maybe that is best for mid budget, and the 009s with a DIY KGSShv or BHSE if more money?

The 007s are not half bad either, but need a good amp, the 717 at the very least. A second hand pair of 007s MK2s plus the 717 or a modded 727 could be had for around 3 - 4K US.

A new 009 plus a good DIY KGSShv would be double that.

Oh yeah, I am truly lucky to get the 009 as part of a trade. I already had the SR 007 mk1 and Geoff's KGSShv. He, in his inimitable way, pointed out people that were using the KGSShv were also using 009s. So when this came along, I could not resist. I do have the 800 with a tube amp so some A/Bing will be done in the near future. But for now, the 009 is center stage and I've been ignoring the family for 3 hours now :biggrin:

post #2860 of 3290
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post
 

Oh yeah, I am truly lucky to get the 009 as part of a trade. I already had the SR 007 mk1 and Geoff's KGSShv. He, in his inimitable way, pointed out people that were using the KGSShv were also using 009s. So when this came along, I could not resist. I do have the 800 with a tube amp so some A/Bing will be done in the near future. But for now, the 009 is center stage and I've been ignoring the family for 3 hours now :biggrin:

What I'm curious about the 009 is does it do better with wider genre of music than the 800.  800 with SS brings out it's characteristic of not tolerating other than certain types of recordings.  I sense this because of the 5-10k peak.  I don't see this with the 009 so curious if this helps.

post #2861 of 3290
For me, the sr009 does not suffer from sibilance of the hd800 but it has a similar kind of non-attenuated mid-highs to upper treble. Some seem to have success with various amps to control the HD800. But I am unclear how that works out as the phone suffers from acoustic ringing right in the sibilance region (in the order of 3-4dB, what amp could possibly tame that and only that?).

Some may feel like the 009 is a bright headphone (or call it bass light / lacking body / foundations). This is more or less of an issue depending on listening preferences (music type / loudness level / preferred else accustomed voicing) and upstream gear ( amplification / source ...).

IMO, you can't have the cake and eat it, ultimate resolution comes at a cost: that of discovering the ugly part of some (hopefully a minority) of your recordings.

If you're not really after the ultimate in resolution / transparency / airyness, there are many other (possibly cheaper) options, including orthos.
post #2862 of 3290
I've transitioned from my Omega to the HD 800 for general-purpose and I think the 800s get pretty close in resolution. Although the soundstage is more vast it doesn't have the ethereal qualities of the Stax -- that ethereality contributes greatly to perceived transparency and air IMHO.

The 800s are also much harsher in the treble but I'm heavily biased against electrodynamics in this area.
post #2863 of 3290
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

What I'm curious about the 009 is does it do better with wider genre of music than the 800.  800 with SS brings out it's characteristic of not tolerating other than certain types of recordings.  I sense this because of the 5-10k peak.  I don't see this with the 009 so curious if this helps.

Sure does. Especially since to my ears, the HD800's are so damn flat and boring comparative to some other top offerings. And that's regardless of what magical tube amp or wire-with-gain you pair it with. 009's are butter while the HD800's are grating.

post #2864 of 3290
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Originally Posted by arnaud View Post

Some may feel like the 009 is a bright headphone (or call it bass light / lacking body / foundations). This is more or less of an issue depending on listening preferences (music type / loudness level / preferred else accustomed voicing) and upstream gear ( amplification / source ...).



IMO, you can't have the cake and eat it, ultimate resolution comes at a cost: that of discovering the ugly part of some (hopefully a minority) of your recordings.



If you're not really after the ultimate in resolution / transparency / airyness, there are many other (possibly cheaper) options, including orthos.

 


Soooooooo true. Let's do filthy sex together :p

Ali


Edited by Ali-Pacha - 8/5/14 at 8:42am
post #2865 of 3290

Is Price Japan still a legit place to order a new 009 from?

 

Also, when did the price on these drop to the ~$3300 range?  Last time I checked, which wasn't too long ago, they were $4500+.

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