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post #2686 of 3297

I hope you fine the Lambda Novas comfortable. There was like no room for my ears when I got mine new in 1998. They did sound nice though with the T1W amp.

In some ways, I liked them better than the SR007/007t combo I got a year or so later. The Lambda was more, well, immediate sounding.


Edited by rgs9200m - 7/14/14 at 2:18pm
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Guys, what DAC would be better then NAD D 1050 (500$ range) which has been getting all the rave recently?? Since I've got STAX system I don't really need AMP that's integrated with NAD D 1050. I'd think you can get better bang for the buck with just a standalone DAC. Although, I need XLRs for my active speakers...any suggestions ?? My budget is around 500$. Don't really want to spend more on a DAC. 


Edited by timkk - 7/14/14 at 3:57pm
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I like my Meridian Director in that sort-of price range. Even the Dragonfly is not bad and great for the price.

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I like my Meridian Director in that sort-of price range. Even the Dragonfly is not bad and great for the price.

no XLR in the Meridian I think

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no XLR in the Meridian I think

true. you could get an xlr to rca cable, but that's not balanced of course.

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On the DAC front I would listen to some NOS DAC's first, like the Metrum and AudioNote. The battery based DAC's from John Kenny JKDAC32 and Ciúnas are well worth a listen.

Try comparing these to some of the over/up samplers like the Benchmak, Arcam, Renaissance etc whch might give you a hint as to which direction you want to go in. Often its not necessarily the DAC chip that has a specific sound but how its been implemented, output stage, jitter reduction, quality of USB implementation. So its usually the sum of the parts which make for a good or less good sound IMO.

 

Geeez, finding a proper DAC now sounds really time-consuming... Shouldn't I just pick the most flat DAC out there? I see you're from Oxford, maybe a small meet-up one day ;)?

I'm tempted to get NAD D 1050 for now and then compare it to different ones. Although, I'm a little bit afraid it's not flat since I couldn't find any scientific graphs yet....

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Geeez, finding a proper DAC now sounds really time-consuming... Shouldn't I just pick the most flat DAC out there? I see you're from Oxford, maybe a small meet-up one day ;)?

I'm tempted to get NAD D 1050 for now and then compare it to different ones. Although, I'm a little bit afraid it's not flat since I couldn't find any scientific graphs yet....

I think you should find a DAC that measures good. Personally, I think one can know whether equipment is transparent throught measurements. Many don't think so.

post #2693 of 3297

Didn't realize you were in the UK as you have no location posted

Not sure by what you are meaning by getting a "Flat DAC" ?

If you want something quickly you can dispose of later I would go for a well regarded second hand unit first as its better value. That will give you plenty of time to find something you really like

 

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Geeez, finding a proper DAC now sounds really time-consuming... Shouldn't I just pick the most flat DAC out there? I see you're from Oxford, maybe a small meet-up one day ;)?

I'm tempted to get NAD D 1050 for now and then compare it to different ones. Although, I'm a little bit afraid it's not flat since I couldn't find any scientific graphs yet....

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Personally I think you have this the wrong way around. I go for something that sounds good and then look at the measurements to see what issues there may be

I have heard such a lot of equipment that measures really well but does not turn out to sound good in the long term. The problem is we really don't know what makes audio equipment sound great, so we are obviously measuring the wrong things or the right ones but in the wrong way :D

 

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I think you should find a DAC that measures good. Personally, I think one can know whether equipment is transparent throught measurements. Many don't think so.

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I'd prefer not to 'tune' the transducers with components that introduce artifacts. I prefer my amp and DAC neutral and transparent, regardless of whether it seems to sound bad. I have EQ for tuning.
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All components introduce artifacts, measurements are only a guide

Its not a matter of tuning but having something which is pleasing to listen to. I've had DACs which measure really well which are positively painful to listen too after an hour or so. bright, dry and artificial

 

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I'd prefer not to 'tune' the transducers with components that introduce artifacts. I prefer my amp and DAC neutral and transparent, regardless of whether it seems to sound bad. I have EQ for tuning.
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I'd prefer not to 'tune' the transducers with components that introduce artifacts. I prefer my amp and DAC neutral and transparent, regardless of whether it seems to sound bad. I have EQ for tuning.

 

I think I get where you are coming from. I also prefer my sound as neutral and transparent as possible, hence the SR-009s. During my time with the HD800s and other components, I also occasionally had the EQ on duty.

 

From generally reading opinions of others, I was at first slightly worried before I purchased my 009s. It could have not been a more different experience than expected. In fact on this system which is: 009s/KGSSHV/PWD2 I never once could relate to any listening fatigue or anything untowards with the 009s. I rate the sound as very neutral and transparent, yet musical and very engaging. Even my 007s took a back seat and I am listening to the 009s for hours and hours on end, when family life allows. :)


Edited by negura - 7/15/14 at 4:18pm
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I guess this is a case of 'agree to disagree'

All I can say is if it measures below the threshold of our ability to hear, what comes in comes out, input = output, and that's what I personally want.
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Again, until you hear them with better amps.

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