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post #2521 of 3742

As I said earlier, I have an SR009 with a stock 007t/ii with NOS RCA cleartop 6fq7 tubes that I installed myself and it is very good, so good that I don't have the upgrade bug for a new amp.

It's cheap, available, has a small profile, and if you don't like it, pretty easy to sell and move on with limited dollar loss.

I've got a Pinnacle amp with flagship phones, and the Stax setup is sort of top of the heap, with amazing insight, tonalilty, and most important, non-fatiguing upper mids and highs.

The bass is rock solid and beautifully transparent, if not as deep as Audezes, say, but it's so high quality I don't miss it.

I'm sure a BHSE is better, but the sound I'm getting is so right I'm leaving well enough alone.

Those RCA tubes make a big difference. 

I had a long talk with Stax USA and they recommended this approach.

post #2522 of 3742

My hesitation with tubes:

 

- I prefer precision and crispness over warmth. (One of the big reasons I'm interested in the 009.)

- I hate noise.

- From what I understand, the 009 is significantly more sensitive than most other Stax models, so I assume I'm more likely to hear the tubes' baseline noise.

- The tubes' baseline noise may be higher than you expect because the amp will be near a computer and monitor.

- I don't enjoy tube-rolling to find the best combo, and I don't want the hassle of replacements over time.

 

Seems like I'm the textbook case for solid-state amplification, right?

post #2523 of 3742
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Originally Posted by marcoarment View Post

Is this a fact — the 009 will not work properly or will not receive enough power from the 232S — or an opinion that the 323S is the minimum to drive it to proper quality? (If the latter, why?)


I'm not interested in DIY — I don't really have the time, and I definitely don't have the skill. Do I understand correctly that it's pretty rare to find people building KGSSHVs for others and selling them? (That compact-silver-cube one does look awesome, but there's probably no way for me to just buy one like that, is there?)

I believe headintheclouds is indeed building those small cube KGSSHV with the intent to sell. I don't remember the exact price, but I know it wasn't cheap.

You might also want to check the FS forums here and on the other site. If you can find an amp by spritzer you should seriously consider it, even if it's not a KGSSHV. I have one of his "experimental" amps, and I absolutely love it.
post #2524 of 3742

Soup has a KGSSHV For Sale and a pair of 009's as well. 

post #2525 of 3742
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post
 

Soup has a KGSSHV For Sale and a pair of 009's as well. 

Dude,

you finally got the 009? I AM ENVIOUS:tongue_smile: 

post #2526 of 3742
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Originally Posted by marcoarment View Post

Is this a fact — the 009 will not work properly or will not receive enough power from the 232S — or an opinion that the 323S is the minimum to drive it to proper quality? (If the latter, why?)


I'm not interested in DIY — I don't really have the time, and I definitely don't have the skill. Do I understand correctly that it's pretty rare to find people building KGSSHVs for others and selling them? (That compact-silver-cube one does look awesome, but there's probably no way for me to just buy one like that, is there?)

He builds them for others not to make money per say but to pay his expenses and find his hobbies. So you don't need to build it yourself. For example, spritzer built my kgsshv. Mao reach out to headinclouds and see what the cost looks like.
post #2527 of 3742

Why?

It works just fine with the 009?

You should also consider a previous generation energiser like 212, SRM-1/Mk-2 or SRM-313 if is solid state. The SRM-T1 is also a good bet if you prefer a tube amp.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Stax_products

The differences aren't night and day, so bang for the buck is pretty good. Will also give you time to decide if and what you want to upgrade to.

 

Most important thing is a good source with the 009 (or any Stax) so this is where you should be focussing any spare funds you have, this will make by far the biggest difference to the overall result. 

 

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Originally Posted by Chefguru View Post
 

323s minimum for the sr009


Edited by complin - 6/9/14 at 4:59am
post #2528 of 3742
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post

Dude,

you finally got the 009? I AM ENVIOUS:tongue_smile: 

 
 

Yea dude! I think I'm done. Well, er, that is, after the KGST. Haha.

 

But I am excited about the 009, they really left an impression on me when Daly sent them down.


Edited by paradoxper - 6/9/14 at 6:40am
post #2529 of 3742
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Originally Posted by paradoxper View Post

Yea dude! I think I'm done. Well, er, that is, after the KGST. Haha.

But I am excited about the 009, they really left an impression on me when Daly sent them down.
Alright, two more things to do: get the 009 and Geoff's KGST!
post #2530 of 3742
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post


Alright, two more things to do: get the 009 and Geoff's KGST!

We'll see how good the KGST turns out to be. Still waiting on more of Birgir and Kerry's impressions on it.

post #2531 of 3742

Thanks, everyone. I think I'll start with the 232S so I can start using the 009s immediately, then investigate getting a KGSSHV over the next few months (since I imagine it takes a while).

post #2532 of 3742

Where the KGST can be buy ?

post #2533 of 3742
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Originally Posted by marcoarment View Post
 

Would it be complete sacrilege to get the 009 but "only" the SRM-252S amp?

 

I wish I had an answer to that, as I never had a chance to try the 009s with one of the less-expensive Stax amps. However, I did have the opportunity to listen to an original SR-Omega driven by the 323, and it was excellent. I don't know how the Omega sounds out of a BHSE or Liquid Lightning or KGSS, but there was nothing wrong with the sound of the 323.

post #2534 of 3742
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Originally Posted by Hun7er View Post
 

Where the KGST can be buy ?

It's another DIY build.

post #2535 of 3742
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Originally Posted by rgs9200m View Post
 

As I said earlier, I have an SR009 with a stock 007t/ii with NOS RCA cleartop 6fq7 tubes that I installed myself and it is very good, so good that I don't have the upgrade bug for a new amp.

It's cheap, available, has a small profile, and if you don't like it, pretty easy to sell and move on with limited dollar loss.

I've got a Pinnacle amp with flagship phones, and the Stax setup is sort of top of the heap, with amazing insight, tonalilty, and most important, non-fatiguing upper mids and highs.

The bass is rock solid and beautifully transparent, if not as deep as Audezes, say, but it's so high quality I don't miss it.

I'm sure a BHSE is better, but the sound I'm getting is so right I'm leaving well enough alone.

Those RCA tubes make a big difference. 

I had a long talk with Stax USA and they recommended this approach.

 

I completely agree as I had the opportunity to hear a 007tII retubed, though don't know which tubes but it was very good. A little less dynamic than the 727 but more meatier and less harsh on high volume

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