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post #2506 of 3743
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Originally Posted by mikek200 View Post

I ordered the 009,s on June 2..with EMS shipping & Paypal it came to $3550.00
How they ended up for you to be $4300-,I don't know
Unless,the yen went up a  by a huge margin..

By The By--I just got delivery on the 009's,this works out to be a 5 day delivery,from Tokyo to NY.--amazing,and I tip my hat to Kaneda,,for an excellent product and immediate delivery

Yes,this is a major invest ment for me as well
I sold all of my other Stax gear,to do this,but,man,am I in audio Heaven right now
Its end game for me,unless Kaneda comes out with the 0010's...then I'm screwed,and its divorce land for me.

Mike

That 4300 included the amp too.
post #2507 of 3743

As I said in the post - $4300 total for the 009's from Japan AND the 323S from Staxusa.  

 

So you get a warranty from Price Japan, you should have to ship it back to them?   

 

What is the warranty on Stax, anyway? 

post #2508 of 3743

Hi,

 

I have a SR-404 and a SRM-006T and wonder if there is any improvement in sound quality to be gained by changing the 006T to a solid state 323S. Occasionally I notice some distortion in MP3 files with the 006T but this may be an imperfection in the recording. I like listening to female vocalists, acid jazz and mixed popular music.

 

My intention in getting an older 006T was to try and control the harsh mid range of an SR-407 (recently returned). Incidentally, I have tinnitus so this may affect my hearing and I have needed to adjust the balance on the 006T to make sure the sound from the 404s is central in my head.

 

Various posts refer to solid state amps having greater 'speed' but I'm not sure what this means in a hi-fi context. Would a 323 produce a more detailed sound than the older 006T?

 

Has anyone changed from a 006T to a 323S / 323 II, and if so, any regrets?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Martyn

post #2509 of 3743
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Originally Posted by Jodet View Post
 

As I said in the post - $4300 total for the 009's from Japan AND the 323S from Staxusa.  

 

So you get a warranty from Price Japan, you should have to ship it back to them?   

 

What is the warranty on Stax, anyway? 

I believe it is 1 year,and,

Yes,you have to ship it back to Japan

 

Mike

post #2510 of 3743
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Originally Posted by marcoarment View Post

I'd like to know this, too. That's exactly the combo I'm eyeing.

I'm brand new to this world — how do people usually get these legitimately (with warranties, correct voltages, etc.) in the US? staxusa.com seems out of stock of both the 009 and the 323S. Woo Audio has the 009 for the "low" price, but no Stax amps. Elusive Disc has the 009s "in stock" but for about $750 too much, and the 323S as "special order" for about $200 too much. Sure, we're talking about investing nearly $6,000 in a single pair of headphones, but I still don't want to get ripped off.

Headamp has the 323 in stock and for the same price as Stax USA

http://www.headamp.com/order/
post #2511 of 3743
Headamp is your best bet.
post #2512 of 3743
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Originally Posted by martyn73 View Post
 

Hi,

 

I have a SR-404 and a SRM-006T and wonder if there is any improvement in sound quality to be gained by changing the 006T to a solid state 323S. Occasionally I notice some distortion in MP3 files with the 006T but this may be an imperfection in the recording. I like listening to female vocalists, acid jazz and mixed popular music.

 

My intention in getting an older 006T was to try and control the harsh mid range of an SR-407 (recently returned). Incidentally, I have tinnitus so this may affect my hearing and I have needed to adjust the balance on the 006T to make sure the sound from the 404s is central in my head.

 

Various posts refer to solid state amps having greater 'speed' but I'm not sure what this means in a hi-fi context. Would a 323 produce a more detailed sound than the older 006T?

 

Has anyone changed from a 006T to a 323S / 323 II, and if so, any regrets?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Martyn

Try retubing the 006t with RCA 6fq7 cleartop tubes (if you can deal with rebiasing, which wasn't too difficult for me, and kind of fun, and I'm someone without electronics experience), It made a very big difference with my 007t/ii amp.

Also, maybe the distortion is from tubes going bad, as you said your amp was "older"...

post #2513 of 3743

Would it be complete sacrilege to get the 009 but "only" the SRM-252S amp?

 

I prefer solid-state to tubes, so that rules out most compatible higher-end amps. The 323S is probably what I'd otherwise get, but its depth won't physically fit well into my setup.

 

I'm sure there are differences, but are they likely to be audible to an audiophile-voodoo skeptic? Would the difference be likely to pass a proper ABX test, regardless of what you think of the value of ABX tests?

post #2514 of 3743
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Originally Posted by marcoarment View Post

Would it be complete sacrilege to get the 009 but "only" the SRM-252S amp?

I prefer solid-state to tubes, so that rules out most compatible higher-end amps. The 323S is probably what I'd otherwise get, but its depth won't physically fit well into my setup.

I'm sure there are differences, but are they likely to be audible to an audiophile-voodoo skeptic? Would the difference be likely to pass a proper ABX test, regardless of what you think of the value of ABX tests?

I have compared the 323 to kgsshv with sr009. It is definitely audible to novice. Never tried 252s but if you think 323s is probably better, then yes you would hear a difference. I used the kgsshv as example as it is solid state tube. Sr009 is arguably the best headphone out there. However it is easier to get a decent sound out of it than the sr007, IMO, but it scales as well. Personal opinion as to whether or not this means you can cheat on the amp. I would look at kgss or kgsshv if i were you. I think there is a compact build of the kgsshv someone is making.
post #2515 of 3743
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Originally Posted by marcoarment View Post
 

Would it be complete sacrilege to get the 009 but "only" the SRM-252S amp?

009 are far less amp-picky than theirs younger siblings (007, Omega 1).

I sometimes run them through SRD-7/SBmk2 (hooked on a cheap Yamaha amp from the 90's) or through an SRM-1/mk2...though I bet the answer is "no", since you obviously won't have the SQ you would have gotten from a BHSE :p

 

Ali

post #2516 of 3743

Thanks. Maybe I'll start with the 252S since it's small and (relatively) inexpensive, then leave a BHSE or KGSSHV as a potential future upgrade.

 

Are there any other reasonably small solid-state electrostatic amps on the market today?

post #2517 of 3743
The headroom with stat amps and stats is generally smaller than what is recommended for dynamics/orthos. The recommended 1 W through HE-500 yields 119 dB, whereas some 300-400 volts as many e-stat amps push through your typical lambda only yields some 105-7 dB give or take.
Edited by davidsh - 6/8/14 at 1:56pm
post #2518 of 3743
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Originally Posted by marcoarment View Post
 

Thanks. Maybe I'll start with the 252S since it's small and (relatively) inexpensive, then leave a BHSE or KGSSHV as a potential future upgrade.

 

Are there any other reasonably small solid-state electrostatic amps on the market today?

323s minimum for the sr009

post #2519 of 3743
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Originally Posted by marcoarment View Post

Thanks. Maybe I'll start with the 252S since it's small and (relatively) inexpensive, then leave a BHSE or KGSSHV as a potential future upgrade.

Are there any other reasonably small solid-state electrostatic amps on the market today?

There was that kgsshv in small box. Can't link to that other website but search for small kgsshv and look for what spritzer built.

Also, headinclouds built one too. Go to post #400 on link below. I think it was 10.3 inches by 9.5 inches by 7inches or so.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/582131/is-anyone-building-the-kgsshv/390

(Edited to include forgotten link)
Edited by Crashem - 6/8/14 at 3:53pm
post #2520 of 3743
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Originally Posted by Chefguru View Post
 

323s minimum for the sr009

 

Is this a fact — the 009 will not work properly or will not receive enough power from the 232S — or an opinion that the 323S is the minimum to drive it to proper quality? (If the latter, why?)

 

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Originally Posted by Crashem View Post


There was that kgsshv in small box. Can't link to that other website but search for small kgsshv and look for what spritzer built.

Also, headinclouds built one too. Go to post #400 on link below. I think it was 10.3 inches by 9.5 inches by 7inches or so.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/582131/is-anyone-building-the-kgsshv/390

(Edited to include forgotten link)

 

I'm not interested in DIY — I don't really have the time, and I definitely don't have the skill. Do I understand correctly that it's pretty rare to find people building KGSSHVs for others and selling them? (That compact-silver-cube one does look awesome, but there's probably no way for me to just buy one like that, is there?)

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