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post #1831 of 3287

I have been using a Toppings T32 which functions pretty well and has a remote even.

post #1832 of 3287

I also pretty much only use electrostatic headphones/speakers. 

 

It's rare for people to actually go back to only dynamics after owning electrostats for purely sound preference.  What I've found is that the most common reasons for change are an increase in convenience and an increase in tweaking one's system.  The first reason is pretty much common sense - you can't exactly plug your Stax into your mobile device and they can be a bit more finicky in terms of care when not in use.  The latter reason isn't really evident until you go to many meets I'd think.  There is a large percentage of people in the hobby that like to mess around with their system.  Tweakaholics.  Nothing wrong with that but I'm not really wired the same way.  Electrostats don't afford these type the vast amount of amps (and in turn their tubes/components) to play around with.  I think tweaking is a large part of the fun of this hobby for them and that's cool too.  I'm more the set and forget type.

post #1833 of 3287

So, just placed an order for 009's and BHSE, let the wait begin... :biggrin:

post #1834 of 3287

Congrats :)  Did you hear them at the meet this weekend?

post #1835 of 3287
yup, I was at Justin's table giving them a good listen, even though they were broken...sounded as good as they did when I was at CanJam.
post #1836 of 3287
Congrats bearfnf, especially since you could make your mind up based on actual experience so no unrealistic expectations.

Seems like Justin's rig got better over time. I recall some meets in the past where people mainly preferred the 007 from his rig while the 009 was more popular on alex cavalli's table and such.
Treasure tubes play a bit maybe (even though i have a feeling they are there with the black finish amp to make the whole thing look even more awesome wink.gif )?
Or is it mainly due to the source upgrade (ayre vs oppo in the past)?
post #1837 of 3287

Higher voltage swing != just louder volume.


Edited by DefQon - 3/24/14 at 9:25pm
post #1838 of 3287
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Higher voltage swing != just louder volume.

This, to the ends of the earth.

post #1839 of 3287
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Originally Posted by 3X0 View PostThe implication here is that these amplifiers would have insufficient power to handle to handle great levels of dynamic range (e.g. opera, some orchestral). For this reason (among others), most DIY electrostatic amplifiers have extremely robust output transistors.

Simple: You aren't going to run into dynamic headroom ceilings until you're using a higher-dynamic-range recording at a sufficient volume level. It would be silly to suggest this could happen at quiet listening levels.

 

Is that much voltage swing is not necessary for earspeakers in practical applications?

 

I'm extremely curious as to how many people have run into the headroom ceiling or some form of aberrations/clipping while playing out of, say, a SRM-717 or KGSS.


Edited by 3X0 - 3/24/14 at 9:45pm
post #1840 of 3287
2 very basic and unrelated questions:

1) in stock configuration, does the bar/spring on the 007 face the front or back? I got mine second hand, and while I don't think the previous owner made any adjustments, I just want to check.

2) Do you find the 009 to be brighter, less bright, or just as bright as the 507? Ive heard a few different opinions, but not enough to get an idea of what the consensus is. I've also never been fortunate enough to hear the 009, so this would provide a nice point of reference.
post #1841 of 3287
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Originally Posted by DefQon View PostHigher voltage swing != just louder volume.
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Originally Posted by 3X0 View PostThe implication here is that these amplifiers would have insufficient power to handle to handle great levels of dynamic range (e.g. opera, some orchestral). For this reason (among others), most DIY electrostatic amplifiers have extremely robust output transistors.

Simple: You aren't going to run into dynamic headroom ceilings until you're using a higher-dynamic-range recording at a sufficient volume level. It would be silly to suggest this could happen at quiet listening levels.

 

Is that much voltage swing is not necessary for earspeakers in practical applications?

 

I'm extremely curious as to how many people have run into the headroom ceiling or some form of aberrations/clipping while playing out of, say, a SRM-717 or KGSS.

I suppose distortion will rise as you approach the headroom ceiling and sky-rocket as clipping will start to occur. How much it will rise and at what levels is the question.. And when it will be audible. 

But you can measure that by measuring distortion (and other artefacts) vs. output level I suppose.

post #1842 of 3287
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Interesting. The SR-X MKIII I heard was easily bested by my Sony DR-Z7 in terms of treble performance. The SR-X had better extension but the Z7 is very sharply defined without being etched or harsh, and I couldn't say the same about the SR-X.

 

Then again the pads were destroyed and the energizer was modified so take that with a grain of salt.


That's normal for the SR-X, the highs are a bit muffled due to the design of the housing. Nice headphones, still.

post #1843 of 3287

Housing, comfort and pads are horrible on the SR-X range. Glad I sold my sets quickly enough then to recoup the funds. Drivers have potential in better housing. Spritzer has butchered a lot of them and Gamma's cross-installing drivers to see how it sounds.

post #1844 of 3287
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Interesting. The SR-X MKIII I heard was easily bested by my Sony DR-Z7 in terms of treble performance. The SR-X had better extension but the Z7 is very sharply defined without being etched or harsh, and I couldn't say the same about the SR-X.

 

Then again the pads were destroyed and the energizer was modified so take that with a grain of salt.


That's normal for the SR-X, the highs are a bit muffled due to the design of the housing. Nice headphones, still.

They didn't sound muffled to me at all, in fact quite the opposite. They were incredibly piercing and etched.

post #1845 of 3287

The extreme highs felt muffled when I had them, but I had no other treble issues. Different ears I guess.

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