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post #1711 of 3729

Hi,

 

Please can anyone help? I'm thinking about replacing my Sennheiser HD 650 with Graham Slee Solo SRGII, PSU1 and Cardas cable with either a Stax 2170 or 3170. My main concern is avoiding bright headphones which emphasise sibilance in a recording. For this reason I recently sold my Sennheiser HD 700 which caused me to suffer discomfort due to the treble peak. 

 

I have an old (2004) Stax basic system which stays with my computer and would be grateful for any views as to which Stax system to get. I've read posts here which suggest that the combination of the SR-307 and SRM-323S can produce a bright sound. Is this correct? My source will be an iPhone 5S which, before I get burned for heresy, does sound fine with my elderly Stax SR-202. I suffer from constant tinnitus (caused by cleaning my ears out to try custom iems) so avoiding headphones which are prone to revealing harsh Zzz or Sss sounds is imperative. I can just about afford a Stax 3170 but not the 407 headphones. I wonder what difference the "super engineering plastics" diaphragm makes compared to the SR-207 which presumably uses the older diaphragm.

 

Thanks,

 

 

Martyn

post #1712 of 3729
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Originally Posted by martyn73 View Post
 

Hi,

 

Please can anyone help? I'm thinking about replacing my Sennheiser HD 650 with Graham Slee Solo SRGII, PSU1 and Cardas cable with either a Stax 2170 or 3170. My main concern is avoiding bright headphones which emphasise sibilance in a recording. For this reason I recently sold my Sennheiser HD 700 which caused me to suffer discomfort due to the treble peak. 

 

I have an old (2004) Stax basic system which stays with my computer and would be grateful for any views as to which Stax system to get. I've read posts here which suggest that the combination of the SR-307 and SRM-323S can produce a bright sound. Is this correct? My source will be an iPhone 5S which, before I get burned for heresy, does sound fine with my elderly Stax SR-202. I suffer from constant tinnitus (caused by cleaning my ears out to try custom iems) so avoiding headphones which are prone to revealing harsh Zzz or Sss sounds is imperative. I can just about afford a Stax 3170 but not the 407 headphones. I wonder what difference the "super engineering plastics" diaphragm makes compared to the SR-207 which presumably uses the older diaphragm.

 

Thanks,

 

 

Martyn

 

I've had the SR-303's, SR-307's and currently the SR-404LE's ...

 

The SR-307's were my least favorite of the three and yet they weren't fatiguing/sibilant in the highs at all; they were actually fatiguing in the mid-range, which I found to have a quite noticeable "etch" ... and a sort of "hardness" to the overall mid range tone. They are not bad headphones at all, but I thought the SR-303's were much better, more smooth and with noticeably better sound staging and especially bass. The SR-404LE's I find even better than both of the former mentioned Stax cans and definitely the best "Lambda" headphone I've personally heard.

 

I personally would recommend you also explore the Koss ESP-950 electrostatic (it actually comes with it's own amp but can be used with Stax amps as well if you have an adapter made from the Koss extension cable that comes with the ESP-950 kit. 

 

I find the Koss ESP-950's to be every bit as enjoyable as the SR-404LE's (I have both the Koss and the 404LE's currently) if not even *more* smooth and musical and engaging. The Koss cans are not quite as hyper detailed/analytic as the 404LE's but are in every way the equal of them in most other regards. Considering your comments about high freq's? Either a pair of SR-303's, SR-404's or especially the Koss 950's would be a sure thing.

 

Best of luck...

post #1713 of 3729

Just to also add, 303 is same as the 404. Different color, cables and pad color.

post #1714 of 3729
Thinking about getting sr009. Question is what I have that can drive it. Will a parasound a51 amp drive stax okay with that woo device? If so, will the sq be way better with one of the high end dedicated headphone amps like blue Hawaii or cavalli?
post #1715 of 3729
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Originally Posted by Crashem View Post

Thinking about getting sr009. Question is what I have that can drive it. Will a parasound a51 amp drive stax okay with that woo device? If so, will the sq be way better with one of the high end dedicated headphone amps like blue Hawaii or cavalli?

 

If you're driving the 009's off anything other than Stax amps then you need a Stax pro-bias compatible energizer adaptor. SRD-7 Pro, SRD-7 sb MK2. Or buy a Stax amp or after market e-stat amp. I recommend you build a KGSSHV though. Good first project to venture into DIY.

post #1716 of 3729
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post
 

 

If you're driving the 009's off anything other than Stax amps then you need a Stax pro-bias compatible energizer adaptor. SRD-7 Pro, SRD-7 sb MK2. Or buy a Stax amp or after market e-stat amp. I recommend you build a KGSSHV though. Good first project to venture into DIY.


I believe the Woo Audio WEE will make the Parasound A51 Stax compatible.  The question is how well with the Parasound drive SR009 with the Woo WEE.  Is a dedicated high end headphone amp much better in terms of sound quality?

post #1717 of 3729

Just a heads up for potential 307 and 407 buyers.

 

I placed an order with PriceJapan for a 307 back in early Feb., and now they've sent me this:

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By unknown reason, Stax SR-307, SR-407 needs very long days to get it here.
Probably, we will ship your SR-307 on March 17 or 18.

 

Se there may be supply problems in Japan for these models.

post #1718 of 3729

Just got a SRM-006ts from Price Japan and waiting for my headphone to arrive. While tuning the offset for the tubes, I discovered that 2 of the 4 big capacitor (220uF, 400V) and the 3 small ones (4700uF, 10V) around the transformer has about 370Vdc leaking on top of its body. Would appreciate if any user of this amp would verify on their set. It definitely looks not right to me.

post #1719 of 3729
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post

It's happened to me as well having bought a second hand but mint condition 404 from YJ and then bam, imbalance and eventually a dead left channel.
Were you able to diagnose the root cause? It's very surprising to me that the driver would completely die (even operation at -20dB or -30dB would be more common.
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post

I recommend you build a KGSSHV though. Good first project to venture into DIY.
Would the KGSSHV not be a bit tonally bright with the 009? I think it's just right with the 007 but it's a bit too much for even the Omega.
post #1720 of 3729
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Originally Posted by 3X0 View Post

Would the KGSSHV not be a bit tonally bright with the 009? I think it's just right with the 007 but it's a bit too much for even the Omega.

 

This has always been very interesting to me, ever since I bought my SR-009s and spent sufficient quality time with both the former and the SR-007s.

While I am very sensitive to brightness, and it's one of the reasons I don't particularly prefer the HD800s for listening to music, I never had this kind of issue with the SR-009s.

 

Furthermore, I agree the SR-007s are a bit "darker" than the 009s (on a KGSSHV), but it's in a peculiar way. The SR-007s are mostly more naturally laid back and less resolute, but not exactly less bright than the SR-009 in particular to the treble, especially upper treble. The frequency graphs would also confirm that. The SR-007s are very interesting in their way of being "dark" sounding on a lot of gear, but properly amp'ed on something like a KGSSHV they are not so much.

 

If anything the SR-007s are harder to drive to sound closer to their best than the SR-009s. 


Edited by negura - 3/13/14 at 9:50am
post #1721 of 3729

Compared the new AKG K812 to the HD 800, both from the Sennheiser HDVD800. Not very impressed by either. Then I tried the SRS-4170 system. 

Ridiculous how superior it sounded. 

post #1722 of 3729

Any DIYers doing KGSSHV builds that you guys would recommend?

post #1723 of 3729
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Originally Posted by s1rrah View Post
 

 

I've had the SR-303's, SR-307's and currently the SR-404LE's ...

 

The SR-307's were my least favorite of the three and yet they weren't fatiguing/sibilant in the highs at all; they were actually fatiguing in the mid-range, which I found to have a quite noticeable "etch" ... and a sort of "hardness" to the overall mid range tone. They are not bad headphones at all, but I thought the SR-303's were much better, more smooth and with noticeably better sound staging and especially bass. The SR-404LE's I find even better than both of the former mentioned Stax cans and definitely the best "Lambda" headphone I've personally heard.

 

I personally would recommend you also explore the Koss ESP-950 electrostatic (it actually comes with it's own amp but can be used with Stax amps as well if you have an adapter made from the Koss extension cable that comes with the ESP-950 kit. 

 

I find the Koss ESP-950's to be every bit as enjoyable as the SR-404LE's (I have both the Koss and the 404LE's currently) if not even *more* smooth and musical and engaging. The Koss cans are not quite as hyper detailed/analytic as the 404LE's but are in every way the equal of them in most other regards. Considering your comments about high freq's? Either a pair of SR-303's, SR-404's or especially the Koss 950's would be a sure thing.

 

Best of luck...

Hi,

 

Thanks for the reply. Please can you explain what is the noticeable 'etch'? Would you say the SR-307 is overall smoother than the SR-202?

 

The Koss ESP-950s look interesting but I can't find a dealer in the UK. I had a pair of very cheap Koss headphones years ago which gradually disintegrated until finally ending up being recycled.

 

Martyn

post #1724 of 3729

Still waiting for someone to verify if they have same finding as me.

post #1725 of 3729
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Originally Posted by okw3188 View Post
 

Just got a SRM-006ts from Price Japan and waiting for my headphone to arrive. While tuning the offset for the tubes, I discovered that 2 of the 4 big capacitor (220uF, 400V) and the 3 small ones (4700uF, 10V) around the transformer has about 370Vdc leaking on top of its body. Would appreciate if any user of this amp would verify on their set. It definitely looks not right to me.

Still waiting for someone to verify if they have the same finding.

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