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post #1471 of 3012
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Originally Posted by mangler View Post

Here's a semi-hypothetical: if you had to choose only 1 combo, what would you rather have, a well driven 007 Mk2 ( not Mk1, just because the Mk2 is the current production and more readily available, and driven by a KGSSHV or BHSE) or a 009 with a mid-tier amp (for all available e-stat headphones, that is) , something like the 323s, Woo GES, srm-007. If you get either headphone from PJ then I think the prices are similar (1800 + 2500-5600 = 4300- 7400 for 007 setup, and 3800 + 700- 2000= 4500-5800).

Only thing I haven't heard in that list is the GES, I'd take a Balanced Dynahi + HD800 over any of those. The 009's are easy to drive but if your goal is spend cheap on amplification say a 323S which drives the 009 just fine but lacking in areas when you move up to a KGSSHV or so with the 009's you may as well not buy the 009's but this is if you plan on keeping the cheap amp as a permanent solution. I'd think you have to pay more attention to your source for the 009 than amplification due to the neutral bright tonality. O2 MK2 I found has too much boom and bloom with the mids and is uncalled for on some genres that have just a tad bit of mid bass going on. Now I've only heard the MK2 once at my dealer and completely far apart to the first time I heard the MK1's so I'm not so sure if the MK2 are as hard to drive properly as the MK1's. 

post #1472 of 3012
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Originally Posted by mangler View Post

Here's a semi-hypothetical: if you had to choose only 1 combo, what would you rather have, a well driven 007 Mk2 ( not Mk1, just because the Mk2 is the current production and more readily available, and driven by a KGSSHV or BHSE) or a 009 with a mid-tier amp (for all available e-stat headphones, that is) , something like the 323s, Woo GES, srm-007. If you get either headphone from PJ then I think the prices are similar (1800 + 2500-5600 = 4300- 7400 for 007 setup, and 3800 + 700- 2000= 4500-5800).

I concur with negura: 009 plus mid-tier amp. I reported about a 4-way comparison of mine before in this thread. However it all depends on which sound signature you like best, the 007 or the 009 one. The ampli will not change that.

post #1473 of 3012
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post
 

 

Yep pretty much, have already heard the 009 and liked it. Debating on whether or not to order a BHSE through our local dealer or direct from Justin but our currency exchange is so crap so I'm just waiting for the timing to be right. Was originally planning for a BHSE + O2 MK1 but I think I'm closer to getting some speakers with that amount at the moment, any spare $$ will go into my unfinished KGSSHV and the Megatron amp (which is right up on the same tier as the BHSE/DIYT2 straight from KG's mouth) but LilKnight seems MIA and he does the board runs. 

 

I will probably share some impressions but most likely not as 100 others have done so here already, my goal is to rid of myself from this place. Too much unnecessary noise and I need peace.

 

Would love to see the day Schitt get's into the electrostatic market, one of the few and truer manufacturers doing things just right.

 

IMO just focus on the Megatron... apart from sounding better, you'd probably get it up faster because there're a lot less parts to worry about. Additionally, do go offboard for the PS instead of the onboard sinks (I would recommend this as it can get quite hot in Oz, too).

 

If you do buy the BHSE, I'd be very interested for you to do the comparison, too :)


Edited by RiStaR - 2/7/14 at 6:27am
post #1474 of 3012
Thanks everybody. I'll track down your shoot out arturo1, it sounds like it would be quite helpful.
post #1475 of 3012
Id love to hear about your Megatron as well, DefQon. I was following that thread but it was dead for a while and I just stopped checking. It's been a while, so I should go back smily_headphones1.gif It sounds like you'll be over there more than here though, which seems to be a move being made by many stax owners.
post #1476 of 3012
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post

Yep pretty much, have already heard the 009 and liked it. Debating on whether or not to order a BHSE through our local dealer or direct from Justin but our currency exchange is so crap so I'm just waiting for the timing to be right. Was originally planning for a BHSE + O2 MK1 but I think I'm closer to getting some speakers with that amount at the moment, any spare $$ will go into my unfinished KGSSHV and the Megatron amp (which is right up on the same tier as the BHSE/DIYT2 straight from KG's mouth) but LilKnight seems MIA and he does the board runs. 

I will probably share some impressions but most likely not as 100 others have done so here already, my goal is to rid of myself from this place. Too much unnecessary noise and I need peace.

Would love to see the day Schitt get's into the electrostatic market, one of the few and truer manufacturers doing things just right.

Not going back to your original Omega? frown.gif
post #1477 of 3012
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post

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Would love to see the day Schitt get's into the electrostatic market, one of the few and truer manufacturers doing things just right.

Bad news on that front. Just yesterday I asked Schiit about whether or not they ever plan on making an amp, and here is the response I got:

" Nope, no plans to do a stat amp. Too small of a market, too many politics."

Bummer
post #1478 of 3012
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Originally Posted by mangler View Post


Bad news on that front. Just yesterday I asked Schiit about whether or not they ever plan on making an amp, and here is the response I got:

" Nope, no plans to do a stat amp. Too small of a market, too many politics."

Bummer


Electrostatics are the niche of the niche, I can understand them...

post #1479 of 3012
Me neither, but I was holding out hope smily_headphones1.gif I bet they would do well though, given their typical price/performance ratio. Even if they did smaller runs that translated into higher prices, i bet their amp would still be more affordable than what's out there (unless you can DIY).
post #1480 of 3012
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Electrostatics are the niche of the niche, I can understand them...

Why not...but politics ? Anything to do with Stax's patents ?


Ali

post #1481 of 3012
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Originally Posted by Ali-Pacha View Post
 

Why not...but politics ? Anything to do with Stax's patents ?


Ali

The elephant in the room is that sales performance of electrostatic products can be critically influenced by the opinions of a few key thought leaders.

 

An interesting case study may be made if you evaluate the sales price (both new and used) of a KG design versus other designers/manufacturers over the past several years. Some might argue the price hike is from rarity and/or component cost but I believe it is something different.

post #1482 of 3012
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The elephant in the room is that sales performance of electrostatic products can be critically influenced by the opinions of a few key thought leaders.

 

I had no idea. Good to know... I guess you could say that about many products here on Head-Fi. A negative review with a niche product can have a big effect if most of the potential buyers find their way to Head-Fi.

post #1483 of 3012
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Originally Posted by RiStaR View Post

IMO just focus on the Megatron... apart from sounding better, you'd probably get it up faster because there're a lot less parts to worry about. Additionally, do go offboard for the PS instead of the onboard sinks (I would recommend this as it can get quite hot in Oz, too).

If you do buy the BHSE, I'd be very interested for you to do the comparison, too smily_headphones1.gif

It's all planned out to be purchased in the future so it's all good. I would buy a set of Megatron boards if Lilknight would respond on the other site I'm not reluctant to drop the $ on boards knowing that I won't receive them in a long time. And I still need to find time to complete my offboard KGSSHV lol.

Speaking offboard PSU is this one of the new mini KGSSHV psu board or another one I'm completely not familiar with?

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Originally Posted by 3X0 View Post

Not going back to your original Omega? frown.gif

Nope too risky owning them.
post #1484 of 3012
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Originally Posted by DefQon View PostNope too risky owning them.

Haven't you and your friend experienced no problems in your respective ownerships of them?

post #1485 of 3012
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post


It's all planned out to be purchased in the future so it's all good. I would buy a set of Megatron boards if Lilknight would respond on the other site I'm not reluctant to drop the $ on boards knowing that I won't receive them in a long time. And I still need to find time to complete my offboard KGSSHV lol.

Speaking offboard PSU is this one of the new mini KGSSHV psu board or another one I'm completely not familiar with?
Nope too risky owning them.

 

You should note that ristar's build is modded for more current or something to that effect. If you use the standard values in the mini psu all you have to do is omit the 2n3904 transistors (deregulate the supply). There's no need to offboard the psu in this case. You can also run the amplifier at -/+400V for less heat. 

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