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post #1216 of 3294
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Originally Posted by 3X0 View Post

It would be a pretty huge deal for the collector (s/he who will pay to the northern end of the range) given the matched serial plates. Getting one even with mismatched serials would be an additional expense worth considering.

Conversely pads would be of greater value to the listener rather than the collector (though I'm not sure whether the listener would pay more for pads or the collector for the matching box). At least the original pads don't suffer from serious issues like the HE60/HE90 pads that make replacement absolutely imperative; the main issue with Omega pads is that they become stiff. I believe at least one owner (Birgir?) has had success treating the original pads to make them a bit more supple, albeit nowhere near new.

We know HE90s are worth about 15k because they rot around if they list for much more. We know MDR-R10s are worth in the neighborhood of 5k because much more than that and the same phenomenon occurs. I actually haven't seen enough lasting listings of the Omega to affirm that position with such certainty -- they are much closer to the rarity of the HE90 than R10s, aren't priced out of accessibility like the HE90s, and the existence of the SR-009 makes them less interesting to people who just want sound without fuss.

I find the Sony stuff more rarer and harder to come by then the Stax, for instance Larry has reduced the population of the CD3k's because his butchered them all for wooden creations.

Collectors or listeners, it's hard to say which is more because I know some collectors on this board who are frequent listeners so it's hard to set apart the distinctive groups.

For me I'm bit of both but more so a listener, yes the original box is nice but I'd rather pads and headbands because they affect the functionality of the headphones, it's no good as a complete collectors item with the box and all If the pads or headband are completely mangled.
post #1217 of 3294

So recently i've been thinking of selling my dynamic rig or at least my dac/amp to start with. I have a SR007 already and I'm not a huge fan of the SR009. Is there anything else that I should look at?

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Could try some vintage Stax like LS or even LNB

post #1219 of 3294
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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

So recently i've been thinking of selling my dynamic rig or at least my dac/amp to start with. I have a SR007 already and I'm not a huge fan of the SR009. Is there anything else that I should look at?

Sell off your amp and dynamic headphones and invest in a better amp for the O2's. Upgrading DAC's ain't going to give a huge diffetence.
post #1220 of 3294
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post


Sell off your amp and dynamic headphones and invest in a better amp for the O2's. Upgrading DAC's ain't going to give a huge diffetence.

 

No but it will give him some what of a different sound.  Going from the Buffalo III to say a Lampi or an AMR, or even a HEX, you might be surprised.


Edited by preproman - 12/27/13 at 4:48am
post #1221 of 3294
Different sound maybe but not much of an upgrade in terms of how much detail can be revealed which so much hyped emphasis is placed on these days since the dawn of ESS sabre chips.
post #1222 of 3294
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post


Sell off your amp and dynamic headphones and invest in a better amp for the O2's. Upgrading DAC's ain't going to give a huge diffetence.

 

YMMV, but yesterday I had a chance to put a MSB platinum DAC into my system and the change in sound with 009s/BHSE was incredible.

Much more bass and change in frequency balance with even more detail, smoother more continuous soundstage, totally changed by view of what my 009 and my Nola speakers were capable of.

And I was happy with my old system!

 

Too bad it is out of my price range :(

 

DACs can make a huge change in sound, the question is the synergy with the rest of your system and what price range can be considered.

I'm still trying to get my mind around how incredible the difference/improvement was.


Edited by cat6man - 12/27/13 at 7:11am
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Originally Posted by cat6man View Post
 

 

YMMV, but yesterday I had a chance to put a MSB platinum DAC into my system and the change in sound with 009s/BHSE was incredible.

Much more bass and change in frequency balance with even more detail, smoother more continuous soundstage, totally changed by view of what my 009 and my Nola speakers were capable of.

And I was happy with my old system!

 

Too bad it is out of my price range :(

 

DACs can make a huge change in sound, the question is the synergy with the rest of your system and what price range can be considered.

I'm still trying to get my mind around how incredible the difference/improvement was.

 

+1 If the amplifier is transparent enough and there are no other bottlenecks, DAC scaling can result in startling improvements. The "cheaper" Analog is also in a very high SQ ballpark.

post #1224 of 3294
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Originally Posted by cat6man View Post

...totally changed my view of what my 009 and my Nola speakers were capable of.
...DACs can make a huge change in sound, the question is the synergy with the rest of your system and what price range can be considered.

Couldn't agree more, although I haven't heard the msb gear, they have such good reputation wherever you read it.

In my case, listening to the TotalDac D1 was similar experience and I can't imagine what it would have been with the bhse!

But in the end, just like you, timing is not right to fork out such large sums of money on a DAC... So, I am going to live concerts instead wink.gif.
post #1225 of 3294
Until I hear an MSB or dcs stack I'll stick by what I've said because I haven't heard one to the extent of big enough improvements go by glowing reviews online.
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I can only speak for the dCS gear and say that IMHO the glowing reviews are warranted and that the two most recent source upgrades I've done have had far more impact than I ever anticipated.  

 

It has changed my opinion on the importance of a good (not necessarily expensive) DAC; it's more important than I used to think.

 

That said, you are definitely into the diminishing returns world here, where significant increases in price are only giving subtle, but very real, improvements.  Can it be worth it?  Absolutely.  Can you get damn close for a fraction of the price,? Yep.  It gets back to your personal financial situation and just how keen you are to make sure you're getting every last bit out of your system.  There is no right answer of course...

post #1227 of 3294
Diminishing returns territory? Absolutely! More so with DAC's than amps.

So what dcs gear you have?
post #1228 of 3294

I only have the Debussy.  I just got it set up before the holidays.  My NAD M51 is sitting right next to it.  I was really hoping that I'd find little to no difference and I could just sell the dCS and go back to enjoying the NAD, but I'm not sure that's going to be possible now...

post #1229 of 3294

^ sell me your M51 thanks <3

post #1230 of 3294
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Originally Posted by DefQon View Post


Sell off your amp and dynamic headphones and invest in a better amp for the O2's. Upgrading DAC's ain't going to give a huge diffetence.

 

I meant selling off the rig I had my for dynamic rig. I did end up selling my HD800 but still have the DAC I had for my HD800. I use my Buffalo for just the O2. I do realize my amp isn't the best but I feel it's good enough for now. I can't DIY so it's basically buying from the FS and the price for an amp I would want would cost 2-3x what I paid for my SRM717 at the very minimum and I'd rather not pay for that much diminishing returns right now. I was just seeing if there's any other headphones worth getting other than the SR009.

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