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post #1 of 17
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Hi All Head Fiers Friend

I used Blackberry since 2005 and never used as music player .
Since i bought in April 2013 I have not used my Blackberry Z10 as DAP

Today my friend informed me , hi Rudi please try your Blackberry Z10 as DAP with Neutron Music Player .
The first time I tried my Blackberry Z10 as DAP

Source : Blackberry Z10 as DAP
Music Player : Neutron Player
Iem : Unique Melody 3 DD

The result is as follow :
High : very clean and clear and natural and detail very smooth
Mid : so natural / analog , very clear and clean human voice from the Singer
Bass : very detail , very good bass impact and fast
Separation : very good that I can feel the individual instrument placement
Soundstage : very wide and good depth
Black background : is black and almost noise free

Conculsion :
I didn't expected that Blackberry Z10 can produce so excellent Sound Quality
In my IMO Blackberry Z10 + Neutron Player as Audiophile DAP
You can hear your music collection for long time , has no fatigue to your ears

My IMO :
Blackberry Z10 has better Sound Quality than my Samsung Note 2 with the same Neutron Music player and use the same setting and songs.

Later I will share the setting and some pictures from the setting on my Neutron Player
I will try with my portable Amps as well

Hearing is believing biggrin.gif
Edited by rudi0504 - 8/17/13 at 1:46pm
post #2 of 17

Some impressions and numbers were posted by another reviewer before

 

http://www.gsmarena.com/blackberry_z10-review-886p7.php

 

The same Qualcomm WCD9310 as the one from Galaxy S3 / S4

 

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/BlackBerry+Z10+Teardown/13445/2

 

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2243220/blackberry-uses-samsung-galaxy-s3-chips-in-z10-smartphone

 

I thought my next phone could be either Xperia i1 or VIVO X3 depending on sound quality. Maybe I could save my money with Z10?

post #3 of 17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by seeteeyou View Post

Some impressions and numbers were posted by another reviewer before

http://www.gsmarena.com/blackberry_z10-review-886p7.php

The same Qualcomm WCD9310 as the one from Galaxy S3 / S4

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/BlackBerry+Z10+Teardown/13445/2

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2243220/blackberry-uses-samsung-galaxy-s3-chips-in-z10-smartphone

I thought my next phone could be either Xperia i1 or VIVO X3 depending on sound quality. Maybe I could save my money with Z10?

Thank you seeteeyou for your information

Samsung Galaxy S3 has the same audio codex chip like Blackberry Z10

I don't know why the SQ are different ?
The result Blackberry Z10 has better SQ compare to Samsung Galaxy S3
In term of clarity and detail in high , natural and clear mid , better bass impact IMO
post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 
My Blackberry Z10 + Neutron Music Player set up as high end DAP ( my IMO )

Source : Blackberry Z10 + Neutron Music Player
Amps : Ortofon MHQ 7
Sony PHA 1
RSA The Intruder
Iem : Unique Melody 3 DD
Cable : Wagnus mini to mini

High : very detail , clean and very clear , clarity very good
Mid : very clear , clean and sweet midrange
Bass : very detail and clean and very good and deep bass impact and very good bass speed
Separation : very good that I can know the instrument placement
Soundstage : very wide and very good depth too
This soundstage can adjust with the Neutron setting
Black background : has black background and low noise floor


Conculsion : Blackberry Z10 as DAP has excellent SQ , my IMO is as high end DAP
With external Amp , we can refine the excellent SQ in better way





post #5 of 17

Did you experience any problems with battery life?

 

http://neutronmp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1373

 


 

So I'm buying one for HK$3,150 after watching these guys talking about Z10

 

 

 

 


 

And this charger looked pretty nice

 

 


 

Based on what I've seen on YouTube so far, it seemed to be running silky smooth without serious lags whatsoever.

post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
The minus point from Z10 before I installed Neutron is the battery life
That's why I carry on my bag portable charger

I am sorry I forget to tell you

After I installed Neutron , it is normal not drain to much .
post #7 of 17
That's fine, I could get an extended battery off eBay.

Latest BlackBerry Z30's audio performance was getting nice impressions here

http://forums.crackberry.com/blackberry-z30-f401/z30-audio-wow-862307/
post #8 of 17

I have the Q10 (running 10.2) and I get a nice sound from my HD 598, for a mobile it sounds better than some integrated audio in motherboards. I use Neutron player and the Youtube app with HQ (not youtube from the browser as it sounds worse) and it's acceptable for a phone source.


Edited by bgalakazam - 12/9/13 at 12:28am
post #9 of 17
Just picked up a z10 to be the new work phone since I needed something with a strong enough cell radio to push through underground. I agree that RIM did a good job on the audio for calls and music. Plugging a pair of Porta pros just into the micro port and everything is very crisp and clear with pretty clean bass using the stock music player.
post #10 of 17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by seeteeyou View Post

That's fine, I could get an extended battery off eBay.

Latest BlackBerry Z30's audio performance was getting nice impressions here

http://forums.crackberry.com/blackberry-z30-f401/z30-audio-wow-862307/

I am very disappointed with Z10 , the price drop so fast , as I bought in April was 750 USD , now Z10 drop more than 50% to 325 USD
That's why I don't buy Z30 , better I am waiting until the price drop to 50% as well. biggrin.gif
Q 10 price is more stable compare to Z 10
post #11 of 17
Yeah, early adopters exist so the price point can go as low as it needs to for my cheap but to pick it up. I believe my price point for mine was under $10 US new.
post #12 of 17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 8064r7 View Post

Yeah, early adopters exist so the price point can go as low as it needs to for my cheap but to pick it up. I believe my price point for mine was under $10 US new.

You bought with plan , it is lucky you

We don't have so kind of plan
post #13 of 17

I just migrated to the Z10 last month and really like this phone. The music player doesn't pop up consistently in the lock screen though. Anyone having trouble with that?

post #14 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by rudi0504 View Post


You bought with plan , it is lucky you

We don't have so kind of plan

Company I work for's upgrades they never used.  I turned in the model I was carrying at work and upgraded to a 10 since they never use their solo ones, just a big group buy when funds come down the chain to upgrade all of the executives and managers phones.

post #15 of 17
you are absolutely right. i don't have the neutron player, but even without it, its still the best dac i have at the moment ( I have ciunas and musiland 02). at first i thought its just a placebo effect, but after comparing it side by side again and again, i realise the z10 is just superior to my ciunas. the best part of this dac is the imaging, seperation and soundstage.

my question to rudi is, im looking for a desktop dac that sounds better than the z10, have u heard such a dac? budget will be about, $700
Edited by djobeat - 5/12/14 at 2:04am
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