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post #946 of 1367
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Originally Posted by FlySweep View Post
 

 

I have the JH13 as well and use it with my GO1000 often.. what you're hearing out of the port labeled 0.47 ohm is what I hear from my 47 ohm port.  It looks like the impedance labels were switched on your GO.  On my GO, the 0.47 ohm output is on the side of the volume buttons.

Yeah, my .47 is on the volume button too.  But the bass bleeds into everything out of the .47.  With the 47 out, it's controlled and tight.  I think it got reversed somehow.  Go figure.

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For those who wanted a general comparison to the Vali.  The Vali is neutral and yet has a forward, lively, energetic midrange that is very "wet" and "sweet".  I would say the Geek is very neutral.  It does not have the sweet and forward sound but it's not sterile or dry.  But if you compare it to the Vali, it does sound a little on the dry, flat, thin and bright.  But overall, it's a very neutral (with balanced bass, midrange and treble).  

Again, compared to the Vali, it lacks punch, dynamics, energy and soundstage both in width and depth.  The Vali just does layers and micro detail and dynamics better.  The Vali pushes the details out making them jump out at your ears.  And the Vali does all this with a little bit of inner warmth that the Geek lacks. 

 

But it is as expected.  The Geek so far, having switched to the 47 out, (which should not be with an IEM but maybe it's reversed) sounds very balanced and neutral.  I think compared to the other usb dac/amp I've owned (Dragonfly 1.2, HRT Microstreamer and Merdian), it's the most balanced and detailed. 

 

I think if you wanted more energetic presentation, the HRT would win out, or more warmer euphonic tone, the Dragonfly 1.2 or Meridian.

I think it's a matter of preference.  But overall, I think the Geek Out does have an edge over all of them. 

And it's a really nice portable "heater" in the winter. 

 

Having said all that..again, as an Amp, I prefer the Vali and as a Dac, I prefer the Uber Bifrost.  But on the "go for budget and cheap", the Geek is good as you get unless your planning to go all out for something like the Chord Hugo. 

 

My Geek 450 is adequate for JH13 and my Grado Magnum.  I'm midway on the volume with my JH13 and about 2/3 to 3/4 with my Grado. So I doubt if it can drive anything requiring more power like the LCD-2


Edited by sling5s - 6/9/14 at 10:23pm
post #948 of 1367
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Originally Posted by sling5s View Post

 

Having said all that..again, as an Amp, I prefer the Vali and as a Dac, I prefer the Uber Bifrost.  But on the "go for budget and cheap", the Geek is good as you get unless your planning to go all out for something like the Chord Hugo. 

 

I can understand going with more powerful hardware when at home. But I backed the Geek Out for portable use. It's not easy to transport and use a Bifrost/Vali combo while traveling, especially when on planes and such. ;)

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After the initial confusion with the .47 and 47 ohms (they being reversed).  I got to admit, it's a great sounding unit.  The dac is really detailed for what it is. Everything sounds clean, detailed and balanced.  I'm using it with Amarra with "vocal boost" to give it some mid boost and it's sounding more lively and forward with my JH13.  Just the way I like it.  Just my preference.  I'm enjoy mid-centric presentation.  With Grado Magnum, it's fine just the way it is. 

post #950 of 1367

Glad that you're happy. I'm happy with mine (GO1000) using UM Mentor..

post #951 of 1367
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Originally Posted by m-i-c-k-e-y View Post
 

Glad that you're happy. I'm happy with mine (GO1000) using UM Mentor..

I'm glad to know you like your GO1000. Really.

post #952 of 1367
Hi Larry. Will the current generation MacBook Air 11" have sufficient power (however defined) to drive the GO1000 and with the DSD music stored on an external USB3 HDD (not SSD?). Thanks.
post #953 of 1367
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Originally Posted by Larry Ho View Post
 

I'm glad to know you like your GO1000. Really.

Hi Larry.  I really want to ask, have there been some .47 and 47 ohms that were accidentally switched, mislabeled or reversed. 

Because I think another Geek owner also mentioned it also.  My IEM (JH13) out of the .47 acts like it would out of the 47 and vise versa.

 

thanks

david

post #954 of 1367
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Originally Posted by m-i-c-k-e-y View Post
 

Glad that you're happy. I'm happy with mine (GO1000) using UM Mentor..

Yes, the Geek Out after all night burn in really shines.  Clean window into the music.  

The imaging and detail is really more like a mid size desktop dac.  Getting me interested in the Geek Pulse. 

post #955 of 1367
Give it about a week and more magic will shine through. Yep that was my comment also. You could be fooled for a mid-sized desktop DAC.

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post #956 of 1367

I'm sure it has been discussed earlier, but is the heat an issue here for anybody? I have the 720 and I'm afraid to keep the device connected when leaving the desk at my office, since I can't imagine that it can be good to have this heat constantly on... Also the Serialnumber is unreadable because of the heat, it melted the ink.. but thats not an issue..

post #957 of 1367
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Originally Posted by sling5s View Post
 

Just plugged in my JH13pro to the G450.  Out of the box, it sounds some what muffled.  The bass is loose and bloated.  It's like the "treble reducer" is turned on.  

I hope there is some burn in.  I've had the Merdian, HRT Microstreamer and Dragonfly 1.2 so I can gauge how these usb dac/amp should sound but not what I was expecting.

 

What people are referring to as "rich bottom" as far as bass goes, to be seems loose and bloated, at least with my JH13.  

 

Switched from .47 to 47 and everything got better.  Has Geek got the label wrong.  The .47 should have the controlled and tight bass and the 47 the loose and bloated bass.

Really confusing.  But I definitely prefer the 47 with my IEM.

 

I had the same issue with some of my IEMs on the 0.47 ohm output. I don't think it's a mistake because I went through two Geek Out 450s and also a Geek Out 100 and they all had bloated bass and blurry sound out of the 0.47 ohm output and sound much better out of the 47 ohm output. I think this is just an issue with super sensitive IEMs. On the other hand, my DITA The Answer sounds great out of the 0.47 ohm output.

post #958 of 1367
@BaTou069

Bro its normal for you have a Class A Amp.

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post #959 of 1367
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Originally Posted by akarise View Post
 

 

I had the same issue with some of my IEMs on the 0.47 ohm output. I don't think it's a mistake because I went through two Geek Out 450s and also a Geek Out 100 and they all had bloated bass and blurry sound out of the 0.47 ohm output and sound much better out of the 47 ohm output. I think this is just an issue with super sensitive IEMs. On the other hand, my DITA The Answer sounds great out of the 0.47 ohm output.

Even with super sensitive IEM's it should not be.  Because what we're hearing is impedance mismatch. 

When I hook up an 51 impedance adaptor to the .47 out and JH13.  It sounds fine.  Meaning, it's not .47 but something way more.

It's like the Meridian Explorer with their first version.  The impedance was too high for IEM's and sensitive headphones causing a loose and bloated bass with reduced treble.

In the second version, Meridian decreased the impedance. 

 

Having said that, the LCD-2 sounds pretty decent out of the 450.  


Edited by sling5s - 6/10/14 at 3:15pm
post #960 of 1367

Not sure if this is the right place to put this but has anyone here pre-ordered the Geek after the Kickstarter campagin?

 

Because I have and also ordered a Geek through the bundle on the Indiegogo campagin and I've not received any shipping updates. I know that I'm not the only one waiting for the Geek Out bundle but I think I'm one of those few waiting for their pre-order Geek Out. It's been nearly 9 months since I've ordered it...

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