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post #931 of 1321
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

It will be interesting to see how the Geek Out handles DSD. At the moment, I tried some test tracks provided for free, legally, from Ayre and I don't like the DSD recordings compared to the PCM ones since they sounded harsher to my ears. I thought it was due to Audirvana processing the DSD format to PCM since I don't have a native DSD-capable DAC, but one of my friends has a Sony ZX1 portable media player that can playback DSD files and he came to the same conclusion as me.

http://www.ayre.com/insights_dsdvspcm.htm

 

Thanks for the DSD sample site.  Any other places have free DSD samples?

I thought my Amarra would play them, but I guess not.  Any way to play DSD with Mac?  Free hopefully. 

 

I found some sites.

As for DSD player, seems none are free...


Edited by sling5s - 6/7/14 at 7:19am
post #932 of 1321
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I know the Geek 1000 is more than capable of driving the LCD-2.  Has anyone tried the Geek 450 with LCD-2?

Hey can you compare the Geek Out to Schiit Vali?
Thanks.

post #933 of 1321
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Originally Posted by pearljam50000 View Post

Hey can you compare the Geek Out to Schiit Vali?

Thanks.

Don't see how that is an equal comparison unless there is a decent DAC behind the Vali?
Which may or may not skew results.

Or are you suggesting GO line out should be the DAC into the Vali?
I may get an adapter to try this one day...
post #934 of 1321
My geek is to arrive Monday. Will try than.
My vali is hooked up to uber bifrost. Might be hard to compare unless use the geek Dac to the vali.
post #935 of 1321
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Originally Posted by matbhuvi View Post

Anyone think Geek out will benefit from USB power conditioner like the one from iFi? Or any sort of DC powered hub? It is my first USB DAC and hence these questions smily_headphones1.gif


It does, however the extent to which it does will vary depending on how noisy the computer's USB bus is.

According to Larry Ho, the more USB devices you have connected the dirtier the bus is, both V+ and GND.

This is especially true of moving parts devices such as spinning HDDs, they should always be situated on a separate bus if possible.

I have had similar success using either the iFi iUSBPower, or Vaunix Lab Brick, a "blacker" more quiet background on which stereo image size and focus, and detail retrieval including micro dynamic contrast are enhanced. YMMV:

GO 1000 plugged directly into iFi iUSBPower.



Got the Vaunix a few days ago, just had a chance to connect it...yup, it does open the sound, even cleaner sounding, thanks (now I gotta check out the Shakti Stone...)
post #936 of 1321

Suggestion: Why not connect Geek Out direct? To source or to your Vaunix (with out using slacker or hub). For me it had a big difference. 

post #937 of 1321
Don;t get it-how can you connect to a PC (or anything else) without at least the cable?
post #938 of 1321
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Originally Posted by m-i-c-k-e-y View Post
 

Suggestion: Why not connect Geek Out direct? To source or to your Vaunix (with out using slacker or hub). For me it had a big difference. 


The one drawback to using the Geek Out connected directly to the Vaunix hub is the orientation of the USB ports places the unit upside down, so that the LEDs are facing downward. This is also the case with various other computers, and hubs, there seems to be no set standard being followed for USB port orientation.

 

In the pictures I was testing the various combinations available to me, and I agree the Slacker cable adds a slight bit of artifice to the sound in my system, but it also turns the Geek Out right side up when used with the Vaunix hub.

 

Oddly, the AQ DragonTail does not turn the Geek Out right side up when used with the Vaunix, which is too bad because it doesn't seem to harm the sound like the Slacker does.

 

Rather than directly connecting to the Vaunix hub and being upside down, I settled on the configuration in the first photo, where the Geek Out is directly connected to the iFi iUSBPower, which has the correct port orientation and doesn't place the unit's LEDs facing upside down.

 

I use the Vaunix hub upstream nearest the computer, which is where it belongs anyway for ease of connecting various other USB devices such as hard drives, digital camera, phone etc... and the iUSBPower downstream at the end of a DH Labs 2 meter USB cable, nearest the stereo system. This also enables the use of a very short (1 foot long) 3.5mm to RCA analog cable in connecting to the stereo.


Edited by MikeyFresh - 6/8/14 at 6:01pm
post #939 of 1321
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Originally Posted by sling5s View Post

Thanks for the DSD sample site.  Any other places have free DSD samples?
I thought my Amarra would play them, but I guess not.  Any way to play DSD with Mac?  Free hopefully. 

I found some sites.
As for DSD player, seems none are free...
You can try the Korg player, it's free and will play DSD, but it does down sample , unless you own one of there products. I use it with my DSD files, to test going on my AK-240.

http://www.korg.com/us/products/audio/audiogate3/
post #940 of 1321

I am going to wait out for Shiit Wyrd and ignore iFi or vaunix. Hope it is worth the wait.

post #941 of 1321
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Originally Posted by matbhuvi View Post
 

I am going to wait out for Shiit Wyrd and ignore iFi or vaunix. Hope it is worth the wait.


At 99 bucks it looks quite promising, although in one description on DAR it was said to re-clock the data stream as well as purify the power.

 

I personally only want the power cleansing, but depending on the DAC it's used with maybe the clocking will also yield a sonic benefit.

post #942 of 1321
Originally Posted by doctorjazz View Post

Don;t get it-how can you connect to a PC (or anything else) without at least the cable?

m-i-c-k-e-y is saying, connect the GO to the Vaunix hub w/o the Slacker cable.. then connect the Vaunix to the PC.

post #943 of 1321

Thanks!

 

Or directly to the computer's USB port.

 

It made some difference (sonically)

post #944 of 1321

Just plugged in my JH13pro to the G450.  Out of the box, it sounds some what muffled.  The bass is loose and bloated.  It's like the "treble reducer" is turned on.  

I hope there is some burn in.  I've had the Merdian, HRT Microstreamer and Dragonfly 1.2 so I can gauge how these usb dac/amp should sound but not what I was expecting.

 

What people are referring to as "rich bottom" as far as bass goes, to be seems loose and bloated, at least with my JH13.  

 

Switched from .47 to 47 and everything got better.  Has Geek got the label wrong.  The .47 should have the controlled and tight bass and the 47 the loose and bloated bass.

Really confusing.  But I definitely prefer the 47 with my IEM.


Edited by sling5s - 6/9/14 at 1:53pm
post #945 of 1321
Originally Posted by sling5s View Post
 

Just plugged in my JH13pro to the G450.  Out of the box, it sounds some what muffled.  The bass is loose and bloated.  It's like the "treble reducer" is turned on.  

I hope there is some burn in.  I've had the Merdian, HRT Microstreamer and Dragonfly 1.2 so I can gauge how these usb dac/amp should sound but not what I was expecting.

 

What people are referring to as "rich bottom" as far as bass goes, to be seems loose and bloated, at least with my JH13.  

 

Switched from .47 to 47 and everything got better.  Has Geek got the label wrong.  The .47 should have the controlled and tight bass and the 47 the loose and bloated bass.

Really confusing.  But I definitely prefer the 47 with my IEM.

 

I have the JH13 as well and use it with my GO1000 often.. what you're hearing out of the port labeled 0.47 ohm is what I hear from my 47 ohm port.  It looks like the impedance labels were switched on your GO.  On my GO, the 0.47 ohm output is on the side of the volume buttons.

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