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Well, in my 1st day with the Geek Out, I'm a very happy camper indeed. So happy, in fact, that after waiting months, like everyone else, I'm considering getting the upgraded Signature Limited Geek Out...if it sounds even better than my Geek Out 1000, it is a fine sounding unit indeed...
post #542 of 1642
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Originally Posted by nigel801 View Post
 

It is disgusting and now I start to hate receiving Pulse update when there is actually no update about Pulse but marketing campaign on Geek Wave. I was very interested in product like wave but after seeing how LH is now milking sincere backers by releasing campaigns one after another and not focusing on first and second campaign backers. since from last two months there is no update on Geek Pulse and all energy and focus is on Geek Wave, there are Geek Out 450/720 backers still crying to get their hands on. There is no survey sent to Geek Pulse backers to provide details on which Geek out they want and if they want to upgrade geek pulse.

 

Simple stuff are hanging for months, I have decided to buy Ibasso DX90 which can be delivered within a weeks time and can run as standalone DAP and have the specs of 699$ geek pulse, I will put the Geek out and Pulse on ebay if ever get these. May be in mean time Gavin come up with half dozen more campaign, geek wave will also be dropped for another year,  so good luck to him in making more frustrated backers. There will be day when LH will be the most hated company on Indiegogo and IGG will lose their credibility big time.

I received a Geek Pulse survey weeks ago.  Did you contact LHLabs?

 

I also got an update on the Pulse development on the 5th of April.  You might want to check you spam folders or visit the LHLabs website on occasion.

 

I am still don't have my 450, but I am not crying, but patiently waiting.  From initial impressions, despite the couple month delay, it will be worth it.  

 

You are going to feel however you feel, but product development nearly always takes longer than projected, especially if it is the first of a kind for the company.  Add in the fact that LHLabs has bent over backwards to not only listen to our requests, but also implement them, and a couple months of delays are understandable though not desirable.   Additionally, manufacturing delays can't always be perfectly anticipated and accounted for.  Remember you backed a campaign so that a company could try to bring something to market.  You didn't actually buy a product.  I have backed a campaign before that got me nothing but a sorry email.  

 

They DEFINITELY need work on their communication, as it is as much to blame for bad feelings as any of the delays, but I think they are slowly getting better now that they have taken on additional staff.

post #543 of 1642
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Originally Posted by nigel801 View Post

 
It is disgusting and now I start to hate receiving Pulse update when there is actually no update about Pulse but marketing campaign on Geek Wave. I was very interested in product like wave but after seeing how LH is now milking sincere backers by releasing campaigns one after another and not focusing on first and second campaign backers. since from last two months there is no update on Geek Pulse and all energy and focus is on Geek Wave, there are Geek Out 450/720 backers still crying to get their hands on. There is no survey sent to Geek Pulse backers to provide details on which Geek out they want and if they want to upgrade geek pulse.

Simple stuff are hanging for months, I have decided to buy Ibasso DX90 which can be delivered within a weeks time and can run as standalone DAP and have the specs of 699$ geek pulse, I will put the Geek out and Pulse on ebay if ever get these. May be in mean time Gavin come up with half dozen more campaign, geek wave will also be dropped for another year,  so good luck to him in making more frustrated backers. There will be day when LH will be the most hated company on Indiegogo and IGG will lose their credibility big time.
I received a Geek Pulse survey weeks ago.  Did you contact LHLabs?

I also got an update on the Pulse development on the 5th of April.  You might want to check you spam folders or visit the LHLabs website on occasion.

I am still don't have my 450, but I am not crying, but patiently waiting.  From initial impressions, despite the couple month delay, it will be worth it.  

You are going to feel however you feel, but product development nearly always takes longer than projected, especially if it is the first of a kind for the company.  Add in the fact that LHLabs has bent over backwards to not only listen to our requests, but also implement them, and a couple months of delays are understandable though not desirable.   Additionally, manufacturing delays can't always be perfectly anticipated and accounted for.  Remember you backed a campaign so that a company could try to bring something to market.  You didn't actually buy a product.  I have backed a campaign before that got me nothing but a sorry email.  

They DEFINITELY need work on their communication, as it is as much to blame for bad feelings as any of the delays, but I think they are slowly getting better now that they have taken on additional staff.
Were you a beta tester? I didn't receive a survey link yet...
post #544 of 1642

@doctorjazz

 

If you want better sound, do suggest to hold off a bit at the near end.

 

Larry is considering a Geek Wave fi (femto + active/internal Upgrade) or/and a Geek Wave Xfi (dual-mono 90182M + femto + active/internal upgrade). 

 

Will be like a portable Pulse S/f/i.

 

IF Larry will consider it.

 

On Survey:

It was a test run. A handful persons were given. And we gave feedbacks in the GF forum. 


Edited by m-i-c-k-e-y - 4/15/14 at 5:02pm
post #545 of 1642
First dibs on Nigel's Geeks :-P
post #546 of 1642
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Were you a beta tester? I didn't receive a survey link yet...

Whoops, I checked again, and I was a beta tester for the survey.  

post #547 of 1642
I was a beta test for survey as well. Don't know if when official survey is out, we'll have to do it again
post #548 of 1642
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Originally Posted by nigel801 View Post
 

It is disgusting and now I start to hate receiving Pulse update when there is actually no update about Pulse but marketing campaign on Geek Wave. I was very interested in product like wave but after seeing how LH is now milking sincere backers by releasing campaigns one after another and not focusing on first and second campaign backers. since from last two months there is no update on Geek Pulse and all energy and focus is on Geek Wave, there are Geek Out 450/720 backers still crying to get their hands on. There is no survey sent to Geek Pulse backers to provide details on which Geek out they want and if they want to upgrade geek pulse.

 

Simple stuff are hanging for months, I have decided to buy Ibasso DX90 which can be delivered within a weeks time and can run as standalone DAP and have the specs of 699$ geek pulse, I will put the Geek out and Pulse on ebay if ever get these. May be in mean time Gavin come up with half dozen more campaign, geek wave will also be dropped for another year,  so good luck to him in making more frustrated backers. There will be day when LH will be the most hated company on Indiegogo and IGG will lose their credibility big time.

 

I share the same worries as nigel801.  Starting the Geek Wave is going to distract LH from delivering the already late Out and Pulse.

 

BTW, has anyone received their Geek Out 450 yet?

post #549 of 1642
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Originally Posted by walfredo View Post
 

 

I share the same worries as nigel801.  Starting the Geek Wave is going to distract LH from delivering the already late Out and Pulse.

 

BTW, has anyone received their Geek Out 450 yet?

I saw few guys in Geek Forum said they got the email notification and expect to receive it tomorrow... ;-)

post #550 of 1642
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Originally Posted by Larry Ho View Post
 
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Originally Posted by walfredo View Post
 

 

I share the same worries as nigel801.  Starting the Geek Wave is going to distract LH from delivering the already late Out and Pulse.

 

BTW, has anyone received their Geek Out 450 yet?

I saw few guys in Geek Forum said they got the email notification and expect to receive it tomorrow... ;-)

 

Excellent new, Larry.  Thanks for sharing.

 

Do you have an estimate for when people in pre-order and the Pulse combo will be receiving their Geek Out?

 

Thanks,

Walfredo

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post #552 of 1642
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Originally Posted by walfredo View Post
 

 

I share the same worries as nigel801.  Starting the Geek Wave is going to distract LH from delivering the already late Out and Pulse.

 

 

How?  Different responsibilities in different departments at this point.  The Wave will have zero impact on the Geek Outs, and likely very little on the Pulse.  The development team can't help with manufacturing and fulfillment and shouldn't/can't stay idle until every last product is shipped before working on the next product.  

 

I feel like typing up an article on how the product development cycle works just to ease some of the angst that people have when backing KS or IGG campaigns.  A lot of negative feelings around the campaigns could probably be diffused if backers were better informed by the companies running the campaigns (not just LHLabs).  

post #553 of 1642
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Originally Posted by FraGGleR View Post
 
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Originally Posted by walfredo View Post
 

 

I share the same worries as nigel801.  Starting the Geek Wave is going to distract LH from delivering the already late Out and Pulse.

 

 

How?  Different responsibilities in different departments at this point.  The Wave will have zero impact on the Geek Outs, and likely very little on the Pulse.  The development team can't help with manufacturing and fulfillment and shouldn't/can't stay idle until every last product is shipped before working on the next product.  

 

I feel like typing up an article on how the product development cycle works just to ease some of the angst that people have when backing KS or IGG campaigns.  A lot of negative feelings around the campaigns could probably be diffused if backers were better informed by the companies running the campaigns (not just LHLabs).  

 

Well, I am afraid that things are not so compartamentalized in real life, FraGGleR.  Even large companies have to pick priorities and decide not to do some stuff, as to ensure they get stuff done. 

post #554 of 1642
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Originally Posted by FraGGleR View Post
 

How?  Different responsibilities in different departments at this point.  The Wave will have zero impact on the Geek Outs, and likely very little on the Pulse.  The development team can't help with manufacturing and fulfillment and shouldn't/can't stay idle until every last product is shipped before working on the next product.

 

I feel like typing up an article on how the product development cycle works just to ease some of the angst that people have when backing KS or IGG campaigns.  A lot of negative feelings around the campaigns could probably be diffused if backers were better informed by the companies running the campaigns (not just LHLabs).

Ultimately, whether you are right or not, the LH wants us to give them money for their next campaig; if we're not satisfied with their previous campaigns, that will be less likely to happen.  LH needs to decide if it's worth the risk.  If they'd delayed this curent campaign a bit until the GO campaign was complete, it probably would have gone a long way towards "easing the angst".

 

TBH, I can't possibly imagine why they wouldn't have delayed a third campaign while two were outstanding, unless they were worried about the results of the first campaigns negatively affecting the third more that the bad timing...

post #555 of 1642
I think with the Pono set to come out by the end of the year, they must have felt pressure to have a portable item to market. I think they have a point, Neil Young's push on the Pono may make other players that are not iPhones or other phones irrelevant, in a mass market kind of way. Even the way they are going about it, as a sonic upgrade to your existing phone, suggests even now they are hesitant to take on the Pono directly, but still feel they need to have something out there to purchase while a lot of people are signing up for Pono.
As I mentioned, got the Geek Out, love it, think delays relate to the above issues noted, also quality control which seems to be fabulous, item is a small bit of green audio jewelry. I can't believe how light this thing is. When the package arrived, couldn't believe anything was in it!
Documentation is poor-I'm not a techie, confused about the 2 outputs, 0.27 ohms and 27 ohms. What do I use when? I've just been doing it by ear, changing back and forth, stick with the one I like the sound best out of. Also not sure about the settings-you install drivers, get an app, tells you to set Geek as main out. Does this mean speakers should be plugged into it as well? (my sound is out on my speakers, but that is a different issue, had it before Geek arrived, works through JRiver, but not if I listen on internet, say on Youtube. I believe I developed the problem when I upgraded JRiver from 16 to 19.
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