Originally Posted by ronnel0918
Thanks for this. Very helpful.
Would you say the UM Pro 30 is much more comfortable to wear than the W4R due to its tubby shell?
Since I am not really the classical type of listener, I think the UM Pro 30 suits me.
What I need to see/hear is the W40 and UM Pro 30 to personally experience them.
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I wouldn't exactly say "much more comfortable". The tubby shell has a smooth plastic finish and is rounded in shape which is pretty comfortable in itself. If you're planning to sleep with IEMs on the UM Pro 30 would be comfortable due to its flatter profile, but the W4R would have more of a "sit on the ear" feeling. Comfort wise both are certainly much better than Shure Se535 in my opinion. However! The new series has a more comfortable (even if slightly less reliable) wire compared to the W4R as W4R uses memory wire which can be quite a bother.
Oh and don't get me wrong, it's not that the W4R only can do classical, it's more that they do classical best. This would even include soundtracks or orchestral music if you have any. But if say I listened to some jazz, the difference would be like listening to them from one of the seats in the audience with the W4R or being in the studio recording with the artist when it comes to the UM Pro 30. Both would sound great, it depends how you'd like to hear good ol' Nat King Cole. But if say you listen to rock, clearly being front row with the UM Pro 30 would deliver a greater adrenaline rush than if you were sitting down in a concert hall.
Being in the audience you clearly get a laid back listen which is very pleasant and calming. But if you were in the studio you'd get to hear the little nuances you'd probably miss if you were a little further back. This stands out the most particularly with vocals or drums when it comes to the UM Pro 30. Like if the artist tried to push a half octave too high you'd clearly hear that she's straining. You also get the "live drum set" feel whenever you hear the drums.
For a more general perspective, W4R has a versatility to it that makes it pleasing for every genre, but doesn't top it off in some genres while UM Pro 30 either does it great or does it not so great.
It's like if I took a multi-genre sample of songs and gave the iem's performance in points, the W4R would have less deviation in terms of points, it does well with everything. But the UM Pro 30 would have a wider deviation, but a higher min/max compared to the W4R. If you take it all and maybe average it out, you'd find they're almost similar. They become less similar when you get specific to a particular genre that may allow one IEM to do better. :)
If you have a chance to audition do try both! But if I may add something a little irrelevant I do find the W4R nicer looking than the W40.