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post #526 of 2059

To those who owned UM3X and now has UM Pro 30, is it really a good decision to just get the latest offering of Westone or the UM3X RC is still better than UM Pro 30? I need feedbacks. Thanks!

 

 

Edit:

 

Upon backreading, I've found out that UM3X and UM Pro 30 share the same sound signature. In that case, will the 4R be a huge improvement over the two? The only gripe I have is the design/comfort.

 

Let me know your thoughts.


Edited by ronnel0918 - 5/9/14 at 5:27am
post #527 of 2059
I was going to ask that too, now that the Pro 50 is completely out of the picture for me.

When the Westone 4 first came out, a lot of ppl were complaining about the sound tube being too short and that they were a little treble light. When the Westone 4r came out, they have longer sound tubes with more treble, so it seems that Westone do listen and alter their products for improvement.
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Originally Posted by ronnel0918 View Post

To those who owned UM3X and now has UM Pro 30, is it really a good decision to just get the latest offering of Westone or the UM3X RC is still better than UM Pro 30? I need feedbacks. Thanks!
post #528 of 2059
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Originally Posted by Danz03 View Post

I was going to ask that too, now that the Pro 50 is completely out of the picture for me.

When the Westone 4 first came out, a lot of ppl were complaining about the sound tube being too short and that they were a little treble light. When the Westone 4r came out, they have longer sound tubes with more treble, so it seems that Westone do listen and alter their products for improvement.

All I can say is Westone do provide good after sales services, especially Julie, their Sales Support and Operations Manager. But for the Pro 50 itself, other than the comfort fitting, there're lots of the problems in relation to engineering (e.g. the loose connectors, poor casing...).From what I can see is Westone hardly make any effort into the Pro 50, unlike what Shure did to their SE846. 

 

It's absolutely a disaster for Westone and I have no idea how they gonna fix it without re-designing the whole thing. I personally think they should recall the Pro 50 to stop ruin their reputation. Or may be they should send someone down here to communicate with their vast majority of users rather than listening to their R&D, that way would be more informative and cost effective.

 

Take iFi Audio or Aurisonics as example, they come down to Head-Fi and discuss with their users, and I believe most members here are more than willing to provide feedback. Anyway, good luck to Westone.

post #529 of 2059

Although I don't have the Pro 30, I do have the UM3x, UM3xRC, Westone 4 and Westone 4r. To me, the Westone 4 are like the UM3xRC with lower bass extension, and the Westone 4r are like the Westone 4 with better highs and clarity. But I don't know if the W40 are similar to the Westone 4 or Westone 4r. To me, with the slightly longer sound tube than the 4, the Westone 4r are just as comfortable as the UM3xRC.

 

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Originally Posted by ronnel0918 View Post

 

Upon backreading, I've found out that UM3X and UM Pro 30 share the same sound signature. In that case, will the 4R be a huge improvement over the two? The only gripe I have is the design/comfort.

 

 

I went to the shops today to try out the ASG 2, the bass was truly amazing, very low in extension, not unlike the SE846's, what they lack to me are the mids and the trebles. There is a bass port on each driver where one could tune the bass supposedly, but I didn't try adjusting them. I was told the ASG 2.5 are not going to be available until next month or so. They asked me to try out the Astell & Kern AKR03 too and I thought, 12 bands per driver, isn't that a bit over the top? But why not? I got truly blown away, everything was there, every bit of details in the music, from the high trebles down to the vey low sub bass, absolutely nothing was missing! They are the perfect reference IEM! I wanted to get a pair immediately but they were sold out. I then went to my regular shop and somehow they had a pair. So during paying up, I was asking him about his thoughts on the UM Pro series, and he agreed with me that the UM Pro 50 are rubbish, he doesn't even stock them (in fact many shops I've been to don't stock them). When I asked about the other models in the series, he told me the built quality had been lacking since Westone sold their majority stake to a private equity firm, not unlike how when UE was sold to Logitech. He also told me he heard the ASG 2.5, they were supposed to be ASG 2 with different tuning, the bass was being toned down to bring up the highs and the mids, but to him the mids could be tuned up a little bit more. So I guess you have made a wise choice in choosing the ASG 2.5, the bass quality is much better than the UE900s. :etysmile:

 

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Originally Posted by Sarurururu View Post

It's absolutely a disaster for Westone and I have no idea how they gonna fix it without re-designing the whole thing. I personally think they should recall the Pro 50 to stop ruin their reputation. Or may be they should send someone down here to communicate with their vast majority of users rather than listening to their R&D, that way would be more informative and cost effective.

 


Edited by Danz03 - 5/10/14 at 2:39am
post #530 of 2059
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Originally Posted by Danz03 View Post
 

Although I don't have the Pro 30, I do have the UM3x, UM3xRC, Westone 4 and Westone 4r. To me, the Westone 4 are like the UM3xRC with lower bass extension, and the Westone 4r are like the Westone 4 with better highs and clarity. But I don't know if the W40 are similar to the Westone 4 or Westone 4r. To me, with the slightly longer sound tube than the 4, the Westone 4r are just as comfortable as the UM3xRC.

 

 

I see. Too bad the Westone W40 is not yet available here. I really need to audtion those 3 (Westone UM3xRC, 4R, and UM Pro 30) to personally hear the difference.

 

Thanks!

post #531 of 2059

Wow, I envy you lot who have the ability to go into a shop and actually try things.  Lucky to have a pair of sports branded sennheisers on the shelves here.  The rest is monster, skullkandy and the rest of the no names.


Edited by davidcotton - 5/10/14 at 3:07am
post #532 of 2059

Yes, it's always the best to audition them yourself, but all I can say is, if you like the sound quality of the UM3xRC, you'd love the Westone 4r. The major difference to me apart from the sound are the looks, the UM3xRC look more rugged built, and the Westone 4r are slightly bulkier.

 

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Originally Posted by ronnel0918 View Post
 

 

I see. Too bad the Westone W40 is not yet available here. I really need to audtion those 3 (Westone UM3xRC, 4R, and UM Pro 30) to personally hear the difference.

 

Thanks!

post #533 of 2059
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Danz03 View Post

I went to the shops today to try out the ASG 2, the bass was truly amazing, very low in extension, not unlike the SE846's, what they lack to me are the mids and the trebles. There is a bass port on each driver where one could tune the bass supposedly, but I didn't try adjusting them. I was told the ASG 2.5 are not going to be available until next month or so. They asked me to try out the Astell & Kern AKR03 too and I thought, 12 bands per driver, isn't that a bit over the top? But why not? I got truly blown away, everything was there, every bit of details in the music, from the high trebles down to the vey low sub bass, absolutely nothing was missing! They are the perfect reference IEM! I wanted to get a pair immediately but they were sold out. I then went to my regular shop and somehow they had a pair. So during paying up, I was asking him about his thoughts on the UM Pro series, and he agreed with me that the UM Pro 50 are rubbish, he doesn't even stock them (in fact many shops I've been to don't stock them). When I asked about the other models in the series, he told me the built quality had been lacking since Westone sold their majority stake to a private equity firm, not unlike how when UE was sold to Logitech. He also told me he heard the ASG 2.5, they were supposed to be ASG 2 with different tuning, the bass was being toned down to bring up the highs and the mids, but to him the mids could be tuned up a little bit more. So I guess you have made a wise choice in choosing the ASG 2.5, the bass quality is much better than the UE900s. etysmile.gif
Thumbs up! Very informative and good impressions! smily_headphones1.gif I had a chance with the Roxanne too. Pretty good IEM but universal fitting was rather huge and difficult to stay in place. Expensive too. ASG2.5 seems to be quite promising as opposed to UM50! smily_headphones1.gif
post #534 of 2059
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Originally Posted by Danz03 View Post
 

 

I went to the shops today to try out the ASG 2, the bass was truly amazing, very low in extension, not unlike the SE846's, what they lack to me are the mids and the trebles. There is a bass port on each driver where one could tune the bass supposedly, but I didn't try adjusting them. I was told the ASG 2.5 are not going to be available until next month or so. They asked me to try out the Astell & Kern AKR03 too and I thought, 12 bands per driver, isn't that a bit over the top? But why not? I got truly blown away, everything was there, every bit of details in the music, from the high trebles down to the vey low sub bass, absolutely nothing was missing! They are the perfect reference IEM! I wanted to get a pair immediately but they were sold out. I then went to my regular shop and somehow they had a pair. So during paying up, I was asking him about his thoughts on the UM Pro series, and he agreed with me that the UM Pro 50 are rubbish, he doesn't even stock them (in fact many shops I've been to don't stock them). When I asked about the other models in the series, he told me the built quality had been lacking since Westone sold their majority stake to a private equity firm, not unlike how when UE was sold to Logitech. He also told me he heard the ASG 2.5, they were supposed to be ASG 2 with different tuning, the bass was being toned down to bring up the highs and the mids, but to him the mids could be tuned up a little bit more. So I guess you have made a wise choice in choosing the ASG 2.5, the bass quality is much better than the UE900s. :etysmile:

 

Glad to have your endorsement sir, and thanks for telling me your thought about the ASG-2, at least one more valuable positive feedback from you guys to support my decision:p Hopefully the ASG 2.5 can ease my itch....for a while

 

Zach from Aurisonics seems to be a nice guy too, I sent him an email asking about the price, he then replied to me twice, finding me a closer dealer in order to save my shipping cost (consider that way they would make less profit as they have to share income with the dealer).

 

Same thing I found in Hong Kong not many people stocking the Pro 50. DMA doesn't at least.

 

:eek:I google your AKs', it looks so awesome! (luckily that's way beyond my price range, 4X my ASG). Awaiting for your AKR03 review and photos:popcorn::ksc75smile: 

post #535 of 2059
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Originally Posted by ronnel0918 View Post
 

 

I see. Too bad the Westone W40 is not yet available here. I really need to audtion those 3 (Westone UM3xRC, 4R, and UM Pro 30) to personally hear the difference.

 

Thanks!

If I were you I would forget about the UM, I guess it won't hurt just for trying it on, paying is another story though.;)

post #536 of 2059
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ASG2.5 seems to be quite promising as opposed to UM50! smily_headphones1.gif

Credit goes to you mate as initially it was suggested by you, I wasn't even aware that there is version 2.5 available.

post #537 of 2059
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Originally Posted by Danz03 View Post
 

When I asked about the other models in the series, he told me the built quality had been lacking since Westone sold their majority stake to a private equity firm, not unlike how when UE was sold to Logitech. 

 

This is new to me. Any idea where can I get my hands onto this piece of news?

post #538 of 2059
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Originally Posted by Danz03 View Post

Yes, it's always the best to audition them yourself, but all I can say is, if you like the sound quality of the UM3xRC, you'd love the Westone 4r. The major difference to me apart from the sound are the looks, the UM3xRC look more rugged built, and the Westone 4r are slightly bulkier.

 

Actually I have the same concern. I found the Westone 4R bulkier than UM3xRC. I have small ears. Will know once I get to try them.

 

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Originally Posted by Sarurururu View Post
 

If I were you I would forget about the UM, I guess it won't hurt just for trying it on, paying is another story though.;)

 

Ha. That is noted. I just hope there is an available unit for audition. Else, would look for someone who has the UM Pro 30 to audition.

post #539 of 2059

Here:

 

http://hearinghealthmatters.org/hearingnewswatch/2011/after-52-years-in-the-family-westone-sells-majority-stake-to-private-equity-firm/

 

I guess that was why my UM3x and UM3xRC kept dying on me. I must say though, they were very good at replacing them, but just not after the warranties expired. :triportsad:

 

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This is new to me. Any idea where can I get my hands onto this piece of news?

post #540 of 2059
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Sarurururu View Post

Credit goes to you mate as initially it was suggested by you, I wasn't even aware that there is version 2.5 available.
Haha no worries! This is a place for sharing! smily_headphones1.gif I suppose a very good contender to the Roxanne maybe the Tralucent Ref. 1. Will be my next upgrade! smily_headphones1.gif
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